The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

[Prodromos]

Why are they banning pro-Israel speakers in the first place?

[alhoon]

PoVG is right there Legio. Banning inviting speakers with certain views is not the same as kicking out Jews from unis.

It is also very undemocratic, shortsighted and creates echo chambers when one side can say what it wants and the other side is not invited.

[Lord Thesaurian]

PoVG is right there Legio. Banning inviting speakers with certain views is not the same as kicking out Jews from unis.

No one said it was. The article speaks for itself:

It would not be acceptable for students to adopt bylaws banning Black or Chinese speakers, perhaps with an exception for Black or Chinese students who agree to criticize their communities. This would immediately be recognized as exclusionary conduct, not protected speech. And we would not accept the response that these groups permit Black or Chinese members, as long as these minorities do not wish to appear as speakers. We would recognize it as rank bigotry; and we would reject it.

[alhoon]

Yes, but that it is an undemocratic act doesn't mean it is antisemitic. They are not targeting a race or nationality, they are targeting a view they don't like. Different colors.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Yes, but that it is an undemocratic act doesn't mean it is antisemitic. They are not targeting a race or nationality, they are targeting a view they don't like. Different colors.

The article isn’t about democracy. The overlap between being a Zionist and being a Jew is basically 1:1, which is why “anti-Zionism” has long been used as a proxy by anti-semites. As for the specific connection to the topic under discussion, again, the article speaks for itself.

[PointOfViewGun]

And the article doesn't support your assertion.

[Lord Thesaurian]

And the article doesn't support your assertion.

Source?

[PointOfViewGun]

Source?

Post #2239 for your assertion and post #2237 for the article.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Post #2239 for your assertion and post #2237 for the article.

Where in the article doesn’t it support what you said it doesn’t support?

[Pontifex Maximus]

Meloni's party, the Brothers of Italy, is the successor of the Italian Social Movement, which was the major fascist party in Italy until the nineties.

So, in your world what went on 40 years ago politically is relevant today with regards to a politician succession? How many elections has Italy Had since 1989? Please show me your chronology?

Meloni herself has made several positive comments about Mussolini

Your source for this is her wikipedia page. Really?

and adopted symbols of the Republic of Salo.

Never heard of this until you mentioned it, so I googled it. The symbology of the eagle and fasces date back to Republican Rome, at the earliest and at the latest date back to the far leftist authoritarian socialist regime. This argument is as silly as arguing the swastika is ONLY about Nazi Germany and not about a global religion that predated it by thousands of years and has survived it since. Your argument sounds so, so desperate.

So, she kind of looks like a fascist, at least in her youth, also she hasn't disavowed her earlier statements yet.

Have you considered the possibility the the parties switched? If not, please cite, specifically, how she looks like a fascist and the statements you've referenced.

[PointOfViewGun]

Where in the article doesn’t it support what you said it doesn’t support?

The entirety of the article which doesn't have any statement supporting your claim that they are banning vast majority of Jews hence creating Jew free zones.

[Muizer]

Your source for this is her wikipedia page. Really?

The wiki page contains links, but I guess you weren't really interested.

[Lord Thesaurian]

The entirety of the article which doesn't have any statement supporting your claim that they are banning vast majority of Jews hence creating Jew free zones.

What’s the title of the article? Can you copy paste it here or should I?

[Pontifex Maximus]

The wiki page contains links, but I guess you weren't really interested.

So proving your point is incumbent upon me, got it. If it is so easy, provide the links. This is your chance. Articulate your argument. You could own the cons!

[Muizer]

So proving your point is incumbent upon me, got it.

Why are you here? To 'win' a debate on technical grounds? That seems a pointless endeavor. This is a marginal gaming forum. Such victories mean nothing. If you want to test your views against those of others and learn something in the process, then that link should suffice. The fact that the info wasn't copy pasted here is of no import.

[swabian]

Why are you here?

Yes, why? edit: i would guess most people want to poke around in a place that is familiar to them and they don't have the time or energy to invade another place with their nonsense much.

Mayhaps you are forgetting about the self-referentiality of your question.

[PointOfViewGun]

What’s the title of the article? Can you copy paste it here or should I?

Sure. The title: Berkeley Develops Jewish-Free Zones. Can you quote the statement from the article saying that vast majority of Jews were banned?

[Lord Thesaurian]

Lmao. I wondered if you’d actually type that out and post it.

[PointOfViewGun]

Lmao. I wondered if you’d actually type that out and post it.

So, no statements in the article referring to banning vast majority of Jews from the campus? Got it.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Good thing no one said anything about banning anyone from campus.