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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    The term "White" is flawed in and of itself. The reality is, "Whites" themselves are a mixture of many different cultures and national backgrounds that can all be shoehorned under one label due to similarities in their social and cultural traits. Which is why racism is so ridiculous to begin with. It's based on nothing but color of one's skin.
    Reminds me of this video.
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    Great news everyone. New reasons to bash liberal journalism: zoophilia promotion.
    Why are the cats sexy? And other Cats questions you were too embarrassed to ask.


    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/19/207002...a-jellicle-cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    The term "White" is flawed in and of itself. The reality is, "Whites" themselves are a mixture of many different cultures and national backgrounds that can all be shoehorned under one label due to similarities in their social and cultural traits. Which is why racism is so ridiculous to begin with. It's based on nothing but color of one's skin.
    It gets more confusing than that. The Irish, possibly the people in Europe with the Whitest Skin color in Europe, were only considered white since XIX century.
    In his book How the Irish Became White, author Noel Ignatiev notes, “While the white skin made the Irish eligible for membership in the white race, it did not guarantee their admission; they had to earn it.”
    There's were also many political interests in defining what was white or not. Italians aren't/weren't considered "true whites" in some places, and such cases go on endlessly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Great news everyone. New reasons to bash liberal journalism: zoophilia promotion.
    Why are the cats sexy? And other Cats questions you were too embarrassed to ask.


    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/19/207002...a-jellicle-cat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Great news everyone. New reasons to bash liberal journalism: zoophilia promotion.
    The are you even talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Great news everyone. New reasons to bash liberal journalism: zoophilia promotion.
    Why are the cats sexy? And other Cats questions you were too embarrassed to ask.


    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/19/207002...a-jellicle-cat
    Did... did you actually read the article in question? It's not about the animals, it's about Cats the musical and its movie adaptation.

    And far from promoting zoophilia, the related question in the article (#9) is: "Why are all the Cats so ... sexualized? And what is with the fur?"

    And here's the relevant section:

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    It’s no real secret that humans have always had a thing for sexualizing cats — and conversely using a wealth of cat euphemisms to objectify and dehumanize women. (Think about it.) We describe two women fighting over a man as a catfight; when they get competitive, we say their “claws” come out. Cats plays right into this narrative, though in its egalitarian way, it sexualizes the men just as much as the women — most notably, Rum Tum Tugger. Watch Terrence Mann, the original Rum Tum Tugger on Broadway, aggressively thrust sex appeal at the audience:

    The blatant sexuality of this number didn’t go unremarked-upon at the time; Frank Rich stated in his New York Times review that “the only real flaw in this large company is Terrence V. Mann’s Rum Tum Tugger, who tries to imitate Mick Jagger’s outlaw sexuality and misses by a wide mark.” (Mann would go on to brilliantly create the role of Les Miserables’ Javert, the most sexually repressed character ever, in the original Broadway cast.)

    It’s not just one cat that’s barely clothed and gyrating around the stage, of course, but all of them. To be fair to Cats, this is mainly because, again, it’s a dance musical — the actors are dancing the entire time, so their costumes are skin-hugging, light uniforms out of necessity as much as style.

    But Hooper, in his strange relish for recreating the exact parameters of the musicals he adapts (arguably to their detriment), seems to have wanted to recreate the flesh-colored appearance of scantily clad, nearly-nude cats, in the vein of the original theatrical costumes — but using photorealistic CGI fur to do it with.

    A note on CGI fur: Hooper and his cast of actors kept emphasizing the fur a tremendous amount in their behind-the-scenes footage of Cats. There’s a reason for that: The difficulty of making CGI fur look realistic is a notorious element of CGI animation; it’s apparently so difficult to animate that scientists are researching how to do it better. The difficulty of creating convincing CGI fur is partly what led to a brief fandom backlash over a pet in Game of Thrones. So when Taylor Swift says excitedly that Hooper has invented a new way to apply CGI fur to the actors in Cats, she’s probably really, truly excited. It’s probably a big deal.

    But of course, as we all saw in the trailer, no matter how advanced the technology is, CGI fur still looks really weird, especially when it’s paired with Hooper’s near-nude costume designs. And especially when those nearly-nude costumes mainly seem to be worn by the young women in the cast and not the men:

    Then there’s the existential crisis that results when you have cat-furred cats wearing cat-fur coats — like a terrible CGI furception:

    All in all, sexy cats notwithstanding, this does not seem to be the kind of movie that results in a new generation of furries being born. If anything, Cats might actually have the opposite effect, and cause many of us to reconsider why we’ve spent so much time anthropomorphizing our feline friends into sexy creatures of the night.


    Quality of the article aside, it's not endorsing or promoting anything, just remarking on a trend it signals. Given the last paragraph it's arguably against the sexualisation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohors_Evocata View Post
    And here's the relevant section:
    It’s no real secret that humans have always had a thing for sexualizing cats — and conversely using a wealth of cat euphemisms to objectify and dehumanize women.
    No. That's not human practice. Here the closest thing I can find to my memory are Japanese cosplayers with cat ears. That's it. Humans don't have a thing for sexualizing cats. Liberals that write at Vox apparently do, thus I don't want them anywhere near my cat, my girlfriend or in my society.

    ing liberals of Vox are now molesting cats.

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    Interesting. Journalists write about one aspect of idolization of cats that perhaps is as old as the ancient world and Basil feels the need to express that as a molestation of cats because by his own admission he has no personal knowledge on the matter. That's what we call degenerate stance on trivial matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    No. That's not human practice. Here the closest thing I can find to my memory are Japanese cosplayers with cat ears. That's it. Humans don't have a thing for sexualizing cats. Liberals that write at Vox apparently do, thus I don't want them anywhere near my cat, my girlfriend or in my society.

    ing liberals of Vox are now molesting cats.
    Possibly mildly NSFW, though nothing that would break site terms I imagine.
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    -Gustave Moreau, Oedipus and the Sphinx, 1864

    -Halle Berre as Catwoman, 2004

    -Bastet, an ancient Egyptian goddess associated with (human) fertility, of whom Herodotos recounts that she was worshipped in a festival which involved a lot of alcohol and women lifting their skirts.(2.60):

    The song Cat Man by Gene Vincent, 1957. Lyrics:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Cat Man's a-coming, you better look out
    Cat Man's a-comin', running about
    Cat Man's a-comin', lookin' for a girl
    Better hide your sister man!
    "C" is for the crazy hairdo that he wears around
    "A" is for the arms, that he'll sneak around your waist
    "T" is for the taste of lips belong to you
    Cat Man, CAT MAN!
    (Yeah...git it...go!)
    "M" is for the mean things that this mean man does
    "A" is for a-lot-of hearts that he has ever broke
    "N" is for the names of the list you may be on
    Cat Man, CAT MAN!
    (Rock!)
    Cat Man a-lookin' for a woman all day long
    Ah-better watch out 'cause he is in you midst
    Ah-better watch out 'cause or you're gonna be kissed
    Better watch out 'cause he is in you midst
    Cat Man, CAT MAN! (Yeah)
    Better watch out 'cause I'm the Cat Man
    CAT MAN!


    I could probably find different (and raunchier) examples, but the idea stands that people have associated cats with human sexuality in the past, though generally in the shape of antropomorphizing cats or ascribing feline traits to humans. Not so much, you know, bing actual cats. You also conveniently ignored the last paragraph I quoted in my previous post, which expresses a lack of enthusiasm for the portrayal of the cats in the Cats movie described therein and hence goes against the idea that the writers were promoting zoophilia.
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    I didn't find the last paragraph particularly interesting.

    As for the examples you posted, Bastet isn't particularly relevant when in the context of a religion of zoomorphic gods and the goddess of fertility was Isis. The Sphinx technically was female, but I'm unsure about its sexualization. Catwoman definitely counts, we can accept the Catman song you posted as well.

    I don't find the sexualization as common as suggested.It can be an occasional thing, but then again, so are furries and I'm not exactly a fan of their lifestyle.
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    I heard that in Europe there's bestiality brothels all over the place. So enlightened and progressive.

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    Nah. They are or were legal in Denmark or something along the lines. Germany is filled with furries though.

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