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    ITT we discuss the upcoming European Parliament elections (23-26 May), I'll start with a brief, fair and balanced introduction of the parliamentary groups and their agenda.

    The traitors:
    EPP (except Orban) (''center-right''), includes the parties of the following criminals: the accountant of tax evaders, current President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude ''there can be no democratic vote against treaties'', Juncker. Angela ''famine diet for Greek children'' Merkel, Euronazi Kommissar Gunther ''The markets will teach the Italians how to vote'' Oettinger and finally Wolfgang ''Elections change nothing'' Schaeuble.
    ALDE (except maybe Babis) (''centrists''): spearheaded by the paladin of the liberal elite, the French despot and highly unpopular Emmanuel Macron.
    PES (''center-left''): lead by Frans ''Diversity or war'' Timmermans.
    The Greens: whose strongest segment is also from Germany, with the slogan ''ethnic Germans are going extinct and that's a good thing''.

    If you don't believe me tha they are all the same, consider that in Poland and Hungary, EPP, ALDE, PES and Green parties are running altogether as one, because otherwise they have zero chances against the patriots. Thus they are all the same. An orgy of traitors.

    Their agenda: globalism.
    -claim that modern issues are too big for national parliaments and must be addressed by supranational bodies backed by multilateral treaties;
    -depoliticize issues and hand them to unelected ''experts'', eg. the ECB. Under this aspect it's important to address the successes of the latter. The ECB has only one jo according to treaties and that's 2% inflation. In the past decade, they succeeded in this job exactly 0 out of 10 times, with abysimal forecasting ability.
    Nonetheless they demand the right to strip national governments of the following competences:
    -migration (because people vote against it): change the demographics of Europe to make it more diverse, multicultural and multiethnic, diluting the identities of European peoples and create global citizens;
    -army (globalist liberals blame all their failures on Russia, thus they want an EU army to initiate a military intervention in Ukraine )
    -foreign policy;
    -climate (see the disastrous implementation of the Paris accord and the ''green tax'' by Emmanuel Macron, who's facing 26 and counting weeks of protests because of it.)

    The traitors control the corporate media, the academia, European institutions and start with a strong advantage, however they are losing control.

    The Patriots:
    Spread throughout the following groups: ECR, EFDD, ENF, occasionally others.
    They are lead by heroes of the people and rising stars of politics like Matteo Salvini (The League), Thierry Baudet (FVD), Santi Abascal (VOX), Alice Weidel (Afd), Jimmie Akensson (SD), but also Marine Le Pen (NR) and the governments of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Czechia.

    It is unclear whether the UK will participate, though Nigel Farage is polling strong in that case.

    Their platform: stop the above described insanity. This might happen if anti-establishment parties, including the far left, reach at least 40% of the whole parliament.

    Which leads to the last element, the far left, which on paper is against the nonsense, in practice, as seen with Ephialtes Tsipras and the Greek experience, might as well be worse the traitors.

    Feel free to post polls, discuss events or anything topic related.

    edit:

    Let's add a picture that perfectly fits what exactly European voters are choosing between:

    The Cuck Macron vs the Chad Salvini
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    Go traitors!
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    If there's one thing I can't get enough of, it's traitorous globalism.
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    You have got to be kidding me. Short sighted, nationalist/racist buffoons that couldn't govern a banana republic are your patriots?

    I'm all for healthy criticism of the failing establishment. But this is a bit too far the opposite side for comfort.

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    The globalist elite have had their run for the past 30 years:
    - the Western European middle class is shrinking and/or getting poorer.
    - social cohesion is at decades low
    - they are actively destroying the ethnic and cultural heritage of Western Europe

    Their solution to the problem: let's prevent people from voting their way out of it on trade, fiscal policy, monetary policy, army and immigration.
    That's the lungimirant, open minded, educated approach of the ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''experts''''''''''''''''''''''''''''.

    The question is simple: which one is doing better? Macron's France or Orban's Hungary?

    Answer:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-trump-s-dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    The traitors:
    EPP (except Orban) (''center-right''),
    The traitors control the corporate media, the academia, European institutions and start with a strong advantage, however they are losing control.

    The Patriots:
    Spread throughout the following groups: ECR, EFDD, ENF, occasionally others.
    They are lead by heroes of the people and rising stars of politics like Matteo Salvini (The League), Thierry Baudet (FVD), Santi Abascal (VOX), Alice Weidel (Afd), Jimmie Akensson (SD), but also Marine Le Pen (NR) and the governments of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Czechia.

    Which leads to the last element, the far left, which on paper is against the nonsense, in practice, as seen with Ephialtes Tsipras and the Greek experience, might as well be worse the traitors.
    Stuff like this is why I could never take the much advertised rise of the far-right seriously. At least, Mussolini and co., despite their overall hypocrisy and misleadingly pro-popular speeches, had the decency to actually enforce a portion of their fascist and murderous dogmas. Nowadays, the growing far-right movement in the developped world is composed of nothing but professional charlatans, whose radicalism is limited to verbal bullying without any serious action (notable exceptions being the modern Nazis in the Baltics, Ukraine, Greece, Hungary and Cyprus). Say whatever you want about the magnificent and glorious USSR, but Karl Marx was absolutely right: History repeats itself, firstly as a tragedy and then as a farce.

    Let's take heroic patriot Victor Orban, for example. I am not going to insist on his government's massive issues with corruption, authoritarianism, censorship and croynism, because accusations like these are easily deflected as nefarious attempts by the nefarious establishment to reclaim its former prominence. However, good old Orban's career has been twice financed (as he himself boasts in his parliament biography page) by the notorious Jewish magnate, despite the prime-minister's fiery rhetoric against the Open Society Foundation. Meanwhile, his administration has consistently attacked and undermined labour rights, to the detriment of the Hungarian people, for the benefit not of the abstractly defined national economy, but of the German automobile industry. I suspect that all these achievements would have undeniably located Orban and his court in the camp of the traitors, but, thankfully, a couple of mean words against Angela "East Germany Youth" Merkel and the weakest available scapegoat, are more than sufficient to negate any criticism. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the backstage, Berlin is really pleased with Budapest for pushing such controversial "reforms", for the sake of the immense profits accumulated by the German giant car companies, despite facing massive popular resistance.

    The same observation of course applies for pretty much every other member of the "patriotic" faction, from Franco's Spanish fandom to the corrupted groupies of Le Pen, who excel more at embezzling the funds of the treasury than in guaranteeing the racial purity of our Fifth Republic. Nowadays, inventing and subsequently attacking (only orally, let's not risk imprisonment) a couple of conveniently feeble scapeogoats (ranging from some hundreds of Muslims to imaginary Bolsheviks enjoying their sybaritic lives in equally imaginary ivory towers) is the only necessary condition for a prosperous political career as the champion of Western Civilisation and Religion. Victor Orban is so confident about how little is his international and domestic popularity dependent on critical thinking, that he doesn't even hesitate to publicly gloating over being provided with generous donations by George Soros' evil institution.

    Far-right's gaffes and contradictions aside, I am personally going to directly support Xerxes himself, instead of his underlings. Don't get me wrong, more moderate parties proved remarkably useful in the triumph of cosmopolitan elitism known as the October Revolution, but they rapidly lost their importance during the following fight with the monarchists. Since the civil war is nothing but inevitable, only the Initiative can rescue us from the Black Uprising. Old school tankies are the only obstacle protecting the utopia of a multicultural Soviet from the upcoming White Uprising.
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    Across the road from Viktor Orban’s modest farmhouse in his childhood village of Felcsut stands a temple to the Hungarian prime minister’s passion: football. With a slate roof and wooden supports evoking illustrations from Hungarian folklore, the Pancho Arena — from the nickname of Ferenc Puskas, widely regarded as the country’s greatest footballer — seats 3,800. The population of Felcsut, about 45km west of Budapest, is little more than 1,600. At the end of the road runs a narrow-gauge railway along which, three times a day, a little red tourist train chugs 6km to an even smaller village, Alcsutdoboz, where Mr Orban lived until he was 10. The train, closed in the 1970s but reopened last year with €2m EU funding, is largely empty most days. The railway and stadium have been pilloried by the prime minister’s critics as vanity projects. But they have something else in common. Both were built, in part, by Felcsut’s mayor, and a childhood friend of Mr Orban, Lorinc Meszaros. Until a few years ago, Mr Meszaros was a gas fitter.

    Thanks to winning state contracts, he jumped to number five in this year’s list of the wealthiest Hungarians compiled by website Napi.hu. In a year, his fortune soared from Ft23bn (€73m) to Ft120bn. Asked by reporters how he had grown his business faster than Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook, Mr Meszaros quipped, “Maybe I’m smarter.” Mr Meszaros is just one of several businessmen with close links to Mr Orban and his ruling Fidesz party whose wealth has surged since it came to power in 2010. Foreign scrutiny has largely focused on how Hungary’s government has dismantled democratic checks and balances, created what Mr Orban calls an “illiberal democracy” and embraced a hardline nationalist, anti-immigrant ideology. Yet as Fidesz has entrenched its control, a circle of wealthy businesspeople has arisen around the party and the prime minister — in essence, a group of loyalist “oligarchs”. The stadium in Felcsut village hosts a match between Real Madrid and Hungary's Puskas Academy teams during inauguration celebrations in April 2014.

    Anti-corruption campaigners, bankers and opposition politicians say Hungary has shifted to a form of “crony capitalism”, increasingly resembling models found farther east in ex-Soviet republics, where business success is intertwined with political power. Hungary’s government-favoured tycoons may be worth only hundreds of millions, not the billions of dollars of, say, Russia’s oligarch class. But critics say its economic structure is becoming a miniature version of Vladimir Putin’s Russia. The difference is that Hungary has built this system within the EU — in part, using EU funds. Much of the new Fidesz-linked business elite has achieved its success primarily through state contracts, about 60 per cent of which are funded by the EU. “Since 2010, going along with the distortion of the whole institutional system, basically Fidesz and oligarchs close to Fidesz have captured the state,” says Jozsef Peter Martin, executive director of Transparency International, the anti-corruption group, in Budapest. “The most worrying thing about Hungary’s development today is cronyism.” Until a few years ago, most Hungarians were aware of only one Fidesz oligarch, the publicity-shy Lajos Simicska. Mr Simicska went through school, army service and university with Mr Orban, then helped him build Fidesz from a 1980s pro-democracy youth movement into the party that now rules Hungary. The small tourist train in Felcsut which was built with €1.9m in EU money

    From the early 1990s, Mr Simicska used party money to create business ventures to fund Fidesz. He assembled a loyal media empire and, thanks largely to state contracts, a sprawling construction business. But after the two men fell out in 2015 — in part over attempts by Mr Orban to clip the wings of his ally — Mr Simicska was squeezed out of some media assets and stopped winning contracts. Opportunities opened for new, loyal businessmen. “Orban apparently doesn’t want another Simicska, someone as powerful as him,” says Andras Petho, editor of investigative website Direkt36. “So what we are seeing now is several little Simicskas.” Not so little. While the upper echelons of Hungary’s rich list remain dominated by business people who emerged in the 1990s, there have been several striking rises apart from Mr Meszaros. At 14th in Napi’s list this year with estimated wealth of €192m was Andy Vajna, a Hungarian-American who made some of his fortune as a Hollywood producer of films including Rambo and Total Recall. Mr Orban stayed with him as a young Fidesz MP on a US trip in the 1990s. Mr Vajna was appointed Hungary’s film commissioner by Mr Orban in 2011 and, having returned to Hungary, has replaced Mr Simicska as a leading pro-Fidesz media baron.

    At 23rd was Istvan Garancsi, another friend of Mr Orban and owner of his second-favourite football club, Videoton, with an €80m fortune — three times his worth when the prime minister came to power in 2010. Despite Mr Simicska’s fall from grace, he is Hungary’s 11th-richest man, worth €256m. A wealth list in last month’s Forbes Hungary magazine, with marginally different estimates, put all four men among Hungary’s top 21 richest. Fidesz’s large parliamentary majority and dominance of national and many regional institutions gives it several ways of helping favoured business people. Everything from lucrative state advertising to business licences can be channelled to friendly entrepreneurs. A study by two Hungarian academics this year found that state-owned companies account for 26 per cent of print advertising, 15 per cent of online advertising, and 7 per cent of TV ad revenues. Corruption perceptions, selected rankings In 2013, Mr Vajna was awarded five out of seven casino licences issued by the government. Mr Vajna also benefited from support from state-controlled development banks. The media tycoon received loans totalling €26m in 2015 and 2016 in part from Hungary’s Eximbank — which is supposed to finance exporters — to help acquire and develop TV2, Hungary’s second-largest TV channel. The government said it had changed a law in 2013 to allow the state bank to finance domestic companies to improve international competitiveness. But pro-Fidesz tycoons have prospered above all from public contracts, often part-financed by EU funds — of which Hungary is, in proportion to its gross domestic product, the EU’s largest recipient. The Corruption Research Center Budapest, a non-governmental organisation, analysed all public procurement contracts from 2010-16.

    It found four Fidesz-linked businessmen — Mr Simicska, Mr Meszaros, Mr Garancsi and Istvan Tiborcz, who is the prime minister’s son-in-law — together won 5 per cent of contracts by value, totalling €1.88bn. In 2013, the four won 12 per cent of all contracts; Mr Simicska’s companies alone won 11 per cent. Contracts won by the four men averaged 13 times the size of other contracts. The four also tended to face fewer competing bids than in other tenders — suggesting rivals might steer clear because they assumed the Fidesz-linked businessmen would win. Based on analysis of contracts since 2007, Transparency International, meanwhile, estimated in November 2015 that Hungarian public contracts were overpriced, on average, by 25 per cent compared with market prices. “Orban is a clever guy,” says Istvan Janos Toth, CRCB director. “He’s using European funds to build this cronyist regime.” Orban’s friends LORINC MESZAROS © Szilard Voros/estost.net Mayor of Orban’s home village of Felcsut, and an ex-school friend, the former gas fitter has interests ranging from construction, banking and media to agriculture, tourism and real estate. His construction company won a building quality prize for the football stadium it built in the town. ANDY VAJNA © Getty Images An ex-Hollywood producer of several blockbuster movies who got to know Orban, Vajna was made Hungary’s film commissioner in 2011 and set up a national film fund to finance local movies. He has expanded into casinos and Hungarian media, and owns TV2, the number two commercial TV station. Zoltan Kovacs, Hungary’s government spokesman, says the government had a “rule, within the confines of EU law, to help Hungarian companies be successful”. But he said all contracts were awarded on merit and it was “simply not true there is an unfair number of assignments that have been given to” businesspeople close to Fidesz. The four businessmen in the CRCB study and Mr Vajna did not respond to questions sent by the Financial Times.

    Mr Meszaros, in a 2014 interview, did thank “God, luck and Viktor Orban” for his achievements. “But,” he added, “I’ve never privatised anything, I’ve never embezzled and I’ve acquired everything with my own work and my own wits.” In an interview last month, Mr Meszaros rebuffed a question over whether he is a stroman, a Hungarian word similar to straw man and meaning proxy, for Mr Orban. “I think what I do speaks for itself, the way our company works doesn’t need an explanation and I think I contribute a lot,” he said. “How could I be [Mr Orban’s] proxy? It’s ridiculous.” Asked about the same issue in a parliamentary question last year by Gabor Vona, leader of the far-right Jobbik party, Mr Orban replied: “I never had a straw man, nor do I have one now, nor will I ever have one in the future.” Gyozo Orban, the father of Viktor Orban © Szilard Voros/estost.net Yet, despite their humble background in Felcsut, where his father was a labourer and agricultural engineer, the Orban family has had some business success. A scandal erupted during Mr Orban’s first prime ministerial term in 1999 when it emerged that a Fidesz- and Simicska-linked company had helped his father, Gyozo, and associates gain control of a privatised mine. In recent years, companies belonging to Mr Orban Senior and the prime minister’s two brothers have been reported to be supplying building materials to state construction projects.

    Asked about the report on Direkt36, Mr Orban hinted that since his father was not a contractor but an indirect supplier, there was no conflict of interest. Recommended Orban: Europe’s New Strongman, by Paul Lendvai EU set for unprecedented rebuke to Poland over ‘authoritarianism’ Orban calls for Hungarian spy agencies to probe ‘Soros empire’ of NGOs Mr Tiborcz, who married Mr Orban’s daughter Rahel in 2013, is also an up-and-coming businessman. A company he then controlled won partly EU-funded contracts totalling €65m in 2014 and 2015 to install LED street lights in Fidesz-run towns across Hungary. Olaf, the EU’s anti-corruption office, confirmed to the FT that it was investigating these contracts. Forbes Hungary in 2015 estimated the family’s wealth, excluding Mr Tiborcz, at €22m. Surprisingly, perhaps, the rise of Fidesz-linked businessmen is happening essentially in plain sight — indeed, with official approval. Andras Lanczi, rector of Budapest’s Corvinus University, and considered an unofficial ideologist for Fidesz, told the FT that “certainly, these are Hungarian oligarchs”. “But it is openly pursued as a policy, it is what [the government] wants,” he added. “Although [Mr Orban] has never said that, he perhaps encourages or allows that certain Hungarian entrepreneurs get really rich, to form the top of the Hungarian middle class.” Orban’s allies 1 ISTVAN GARANCSI © Szilard Voros/estost.net Owner of Videoton, one of Orban’s favourite football clubs, and often seen with him at games, Garansci has interests in construction, football, banking and natural gas trading. He controls a company that won a big construction contract for the 2017 World Swimming Championships in Budapest. ISTVAN TIBORCZ © Szilard Voros/estost.net Married to Orban’s daughter Rahel since 2013, Tiborcz’s Elios lighting company won partially EU-funded contracts worth €65m to install LED street lights in many Hungarian towns. He later sold his Elios stake and invested in land and real estate. Fidesz leaders have spoken of the need to create a national bourgeoisie, or what Mr Lanczi calls a “patriotic cohort of entrepreneurs”. What the ruling party is doing to advance its vision is, he says, no more corrupt than communist-era nationalisation or the post-communist privatisations of the 1990s.

    A senior Hungarian banker who asks not to be named counters that the patriotic entrepreneurs are not creating innovative businesses. “The new capitalist ruling class . . . make their money from the government, and competition for these [contracts] is far from fair, open or transparent.” Mr Martin of Transparency International says that while cronyism and graft were big problems during the eight-year socialist government before 2010, many Hungarians fail to appreciate how much more centralised corruption has become. “Corruption before 2010 was rather a dysfunction of the system,” he says. “Today, it’s a part of the system.” Political backlash: Opposition tries to make case against cronyism On billboards across Hungary in September posters appeared showing premier Viktor Orban with three businesspeople above a slogan in the typeface from the Godfather movie, reading: “Gangsters”. The group behind the campaign is Jobbik, the far-right party and main opposition to the ruling Fidesz party. The billboards were part of a move to reposition itself as a more centrist party — with a focus on fighting corruption. Adding spice — and a little cheek — to the campaign is the claim that Jobbik is allegedly being funded by Lajos Simicska, the tycoon and former Fidesz financial mastermind, who fell out with Mr Orban in 2015. Mr Simicska and Jobbik have denied financial links between them. The Jobbik connection has led Hungary’s government to argue that allegations it has unfairly favoured a particular group of businesspeople are fake news put out by its enemies. Fidesz was also enraged by a Jobbik poster campaign in April that showed Mr Orban with the same businesspeople, with the slogan: “Youwork. They steal.”

    The posters appeared on billboard sites belonging to two Simicska companies — prompting Fidesz to introduce tighter rules on political billboard campaigns. Hungary’s state audit office, run by a former Fidesz lawmaker, said this month that Jobbik’s billboards had violated campaign finance rules. It handed down preliminary penalties exceeding Ft660m (€2.1m) — enough to wipe out the party’s finances, Jobbik leaders say. Balint Magyar, author of Mafia State, which alleges Hungary has been “captured” by the Fidesz political and business elite, says a poll last year found three-quarters of respondents thought it at least conceivable that the premier was making money via frontmen. “The public feels this,” he says. “That it’s not a question of regular corruption, that it’s centrally led.”
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    How could you mention ALDE without recognising the weasel-like magnificence of that "curtain-haired slimeball" Guy Verhofstadt?

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    Oh right, it's because even Macron couldn't stand that liberal psychopath and he's getting rid of him. Clear evidence that these people are in it only for themselves and at best their financial backers.

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    Whooow Go Traitors!!!

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    I think it is safe to say that current "moderates" can't really be taken seriously - they are first and foremost charlatans, who unlike their neoliberal/neocon predecessors (from Reagan/Thatcher era) can't even implement their own programs, instead they rely on legacy media to paint any opposition to them as "far-right maniacs" and hope that that will keep them getting elected forever by scaring public into submission through an imaginary bogeyman.
    In the mean time, Europe's democratic nationalist movements (labeled by legacy media propaganda as "far-right") achieve success because they offer public something neoliberal "moderates" nor their lunatic socialist colleagues can't and won't - a viable and working alternative. It is simply how democracy works, and so-called "far-right" ended up offering something that interests public more then spending their tax money on endless immigration and welfare state for economic migrants and/or backing billionaire interests. As for the nonsensical accusations of "racism" it is quite clear that no "racist apocalypse" happened in Poland, Italy, Hungary or any other country where nationalists were elected, so we can just write it off as part of the same smear campaign as "Russia ties".

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    Good article by Ashoka Mody on the system that the traitors are trying to build:
    https://www.insideover.com/nationali...tionalism.html
    An ''opaque and unaccountable'' system of rules run by an unelected and irresponsible elite of self-proclaimed experts. This is a war against democracy. Indeed Mario Draghi is another traitor and I look forward the day he's jailed for the rest of his lifetime for betraying the country.

    Also, the Danish Social Democrats have given up on immigration and now want severe restrictions:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ozPKYyRtNu6RiY

    It has paid off, they will win, which is rare in Europe with the only other notable exceptions in Iberia.

    Greek austerity policy ‘proven to be right,’ says Merkel


    http://www.ekathimerini.com/240560/a...ht-says-merkel


    This is after the IMF has long admitted they miscalculated.
    https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2013/wp1301.pdf

    We need a People's Tribunal (because liberal judges can't be trusted to deliver justice) for Merkel. At no point she felt sorry for what she did, she demands praise. She also demands that European countries surrender their migration policies to her. I'd rather quit the EU.
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    Please do not post consecutively into the same thread. If you wish to add information to the thread and yours is the latest post in it, use the Edit Post function instead.

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    @Basil: Just being curious, in which categorie does the Austrian FPÖ fit?

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    I am, not so happily, but still proudly, been drafted for the committee in the local elections in my area. I will spend my whole Sunday from before the sun rises to deep in the night serving democracy.

    I am supporting one of the parties that Basil failed to mention: The International Pirate Party.
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    @alhoon: Then good luck to you, don`t overwork yourself like those poor guys in Indonesia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morifea View Post
    @Basil: Just being curious, in which categorie does the Austrian FPÖ fit?
    Given the Strache debacle, idiots would be fair. Hopefully Hofer can do better.

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    Anyone who can do a basic google search to check that Igor Makarov was an only child and he doesnt have nieces would do better, Im glad that Strache is finaly out of the picture, Hofer will be a much better FPÖ leader.

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    That's what I thought. Sure the chick is hot, so the first thing you want to figure out to see if she's legit: check social media. Make a Google research. That was apparently too much for Strache. People who think with their dick belong nowhere considering how bad the situation is.

    Either way, it's not a tragedy. Kurz is clearly a gatekeeper at this point. He met with Soros, let him move the CEU from Budapest to Vienna, constantly bashes the Italian government, it's pretty clear which side is he on and there are only two sides in this. Hopefully he makes a coalition with the traitors on the center left, so that it becomes clearer to the electorate that they are all the same. I guess Poland will have to liberate Vienna again this century.

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    I find the whole set of buzzwords and buzz-phrases like "planting hatred" rather vapid, especially given how it is the establishment parties that seek to polarize society by their very own actions. They are being called traitors for... being traitors. Its not polarizing to state facts.

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    Default Re: European Parliament Elections 2019: Patriots against Traitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    I find the whole set of buzzwords and buzz-phrases like "planting hatred" rather vapid, especially given how it is the establishment parties that seek to polarize society by their very own actions. They are being called traitors for... being traitors. Its not polarizing to state facts.
    Facts like "magic works"? Or "there's a lizard people conspiracy to replace white people with black people because [thumbs copy of Mein Kampf] ...the Jews....something something".

    Right wing populism has no staying power. In Spain Franco wrecked the economy and was kept in place by a regime of terror. In Germany Hitler crashed the economy and broke the country in pieces (oh and inb4 idiotic comments like "but the Nazis who hated Socialism were actually Socialists, just ignore everything Hitler ever said"). In Great Britain the Brexit insurrection is stuck in the committee stage. Trumps massive swamp-draining war-stopping is about to start a war in a Middle Eastern country twice the size of Iraq for the benefit of Saudi Arabia and the Koch Brothers (oddly neither of them will be serving in the occupation forces).

    The far right lives off fear, just like the far left. If OP is living in LaLa land if he thinks one side or the other are heroes.
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