Too many options I don't know where to begin

**Azzarrel** · May 07, 2019, 02:17 PM

Is there a good mod for better diplomatic missions? PIGS is nice, but overdoes it for me. All I want is to be able to use diplomatic missions to ... well improve diplomatic relations. The other bonuses are nice, but I am looking for something that makes it easier to negotiate trade agreements and such and not get a darn city in some remote provice or half my people killed.

**NorthernXY** · May 07, 2019, 02:56 PM

Julia mod works with RTR. Unfortunately it seems the Historical Objectives mod doesn't.

Is there no "Edit" button or am I blind?

**Azzarrel** · May 07, 2019, 03:39 PM

I think 'common' users arent allowed to edit, at least that's what it says in
"Posting Permissions "

You may not edit your posts

**~Seleukos.I.Nikator~** · May 08, 2019, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Azzarrel

Is there a good mod for better diplomatic missions? PIGS is nice, but overdoes it for me. All I want is to be able to use diplomatic missions to ... well improve diplomatic relations. The other bonuses are nice, but I am looking for something that makes it easier to negotiate trade agreements and such and not get a darn city in some remote provice or half my people killed.

You are no longer granted distant settlements by the AI. CA changed this in their latest patch. Now, the AI will only give you cities bordering yours. If no such city exists the features is no longer valid.

Originally Posted by Azzarrel

I think 'common' users arent allowed to edit, at least that's what it says in
"Posting Permissions "

You may not edit your posts

You need 25 posts before you can use 'edit' function.

**Leonardo** · May 08, 2019, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Azzarrel

I think 'common' users arent allowed to edit, at least that's what it says in
"Posting Permissions"

You may not edit your posts

What ~Seleukos.I.Nikator~ said, you still need 12 posts before being able to edit your post.

**Jake Armitage** · May 08, 2019, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Azzarrel

Is there a good mod for better diplomatic missions? PIGS is nice, but overdoes it for me. All I want is to be able to use diplomatic missions to ... well improve diplomatic relations. The other bonuses are nice, but I am looking for something that makes it easier to negotiate trade agreements and such and not get a darn city in some remote provice or half my people killed.

the only submod I know about is this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=1397295936
but it actually works on the contrary regarding what you're asking, adding a lot of different outcomes regarding many things (and not focusing on diplomacy)
get city: it's hardcoded ('cause it's linked to an hardcoded script regarding scripted dilemmas), even if you remove the entry the possibility will still be there

send diplomat is the only intrigue I haven't touched with PIGS but I'm planning to do it in a similar way to the one you're requesting, more focused onto diplomacy matter and consequently change how the consult aruspex will work

**NorthernXY** · May 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

Think one messed up the population system. Roma has had 55,502 people for over a decade and is suppose to gain 3,000 people this turn. Haven't felt its effects by having too little manpower, but can't stand it.

**~Seleukos.I.Nikator~** · May 16, 2019, 02:10 AM

You mean the mod above posted by Jake?

It might be so, as the author doesn't actually state in the description that the mod is compatible with DeI. Also, I don't know if it contains any external scripts that would basically render it incompatible with DeI.

**Jake Armitage** · May 16, 2019, 03:37 AM

I don't think the more diplomatic outcomes (which is compatible with DeI and current PIGS) can affect population. You can affect population via script only and that pack has nothing regarding this.
The only packs affecting population afaik are mine inside testudo thread.

**Dardo21** · May 16, 2019, 06:51 AM

i've been using that mod myself, haven't had any of those issues with it.

**NorthernXY** · May 16, 2019, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by ~Seleukos.I.Nikator~

You mean the mod above posted by Jake?

It might be so, as the author doesn't actually state in the description that the mod is compatible with DeI. Also, I don't know if it contains any external scripts that would basically render it incompatible with DeI.

No, different ones. Something happened because population was going up, but now it can only go down, which means no more legions. Really don't feel like starting over at turn 250. If I do think I'll go with only one submod and maybe play as Athens.

P.S.

My food levels were in the 10s and 20s, then for some reason it tanked and I even saw it hit -50s a few years after being positive.

P.P.S. (because I can't edit)

Starting a new campaign with Age of Hellenism, Alt. Eco., Culture Divisio, and the mode to allow more factions playable. Really hope I don't have to throw a game away again. Want to play as Athens and have an economic game, but realize this is a Total War game so it probably won't work and I'll have to play as Makedon.

Why can't Paradox do warfare and CA do economy correctly?

**Jake Armitage** · May 16, 2019, 12:05 PM

submods you're using are fine and compatible.

**NorthernXY** · May 16, 2019, 12:10 PM

Well damn, apparently I have to pay money to play as Athens or Sparta despite those factions shipping with the game. I remember when it came out it received horrible ratings for being rushed, bugged, and everything behind a paywall. At least Paradox adds on, even if badly, when I buy a DLC. I'm so pissed off I might just stop playing.

**♔Greek Strategos♔** · May 16, 2019, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by NorthernXY

P.P.S. (because I can't edit)
Why can't Paradox do warfare and CA do economy correctly?

Because they're different companies with different designing philosophies etc
You'll be able to edit your posts after 25 of them

**NorthernXY** · May 16, 2019, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jake Armitage

submods you're using are fine and compatible.

Thanks. I was using a different set for bugged saved. Guess I should unload the more factions submod. Might try Testudo or RTR1.5 next Rome campaign AoH+ using Makedon (and/or small Hellenic for an economic win). Will probably do Parthia then maybe a Germanic, then back to Rome. Don't have it in me to start a new Rome campaign after this one failed.

Originally Posted by ♔Greek Strategos♔

Because they're different companies with different designing philosophies etc
You'll be able to edit your posts after 25 of them

I get that, it just amazes me neither even tries to deliver a well rounded game. With I:R, there are only 4 buildings types so apparently it has worse economics and war.

**Dardo21** · May 16, 2019, 08:43 PM

Massalia is also one of my favorites. It combines Greek, with Roman and Hellenic elements. The location is also much different compared to other Greek states.

**Ptolemaios Soter** · May 24, 2019, 06:21 PM

I've tried installing Age of Hellenism, Alternative Economy, and Cultural Tension, but for some reason I'm not able to get it to work. I normally play with the official hardcore submod as well. Using the old mod manager because I had some issues previously with the new one, but it kept deleting Cultural Tension from the data folder (not just not loading it, actually deleting the files). So I'm now trying with the new mod manager but I'm not getting the unit or building cost changes (and probably missing a whole bunch of other stuff too). What am I doing wrong? Is anyone else having these issues?