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  • Bernie Sanders.

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    15 38.46%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1c_fail View Post
    I've had that often too. Whenever I criticize the Democratic Party for conspiring to sabotage Sanders' campaign or highlight that the Russia hysteria is a ploy to distract voters from Clinton's deceitfulness and incompetence I'm accused of being a Trump supporter. That's just the reaction that you get from partisans. As for the Covington affair, I'm surprised that you hadn't realized the grotesque extent of the liberal press' dishonesty long before that.
    That's amusing. I don't recall liberals here saying that the sabotage of the Sanders' campaign was the right thing to do, or at the very least, I don't recall ever saying it myself, or the majority of the Forum's "Left" stating so. Neither does anybody actually care if you're a Trump supporter, but it is touching to see your sensibilities so offended. The reality is that it doesn't make any difference whether you are a Trump supporter, a closet Clinton supporter, a fascist, or commie. What matters is your fixation with criticizing one side of the political spectrum, especially when even a cursory glance clearly shows that Republicans and Donald Trump in particular, are the worst offenders of "dishonesty" or whatever you wanna call it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernXY View Post
    What's your area of research? I'm betting you're a breast cancer gal. What's your least favorite part of writing grants? Mine is when it gets close to finals. I'm assuming you too are a scientist and aren't just speaking out of your ass by assuming you can simply give every scientist a blank check and every disease will be cured.
    One does not need to have a degree in biochemistry or experience in cancer research to be able to tell you that cancer isn't going to be cured in the next five years, bar a scientific miracle. I'm also not sure what your point here is. I didn't say cancer was going to be cured with a blank check. I'm saying that regardless of Biden's "failure", nobody can say that 4 years of more funding for cancer research is a bad thing. It's a positive outcome regardless of us finding a cure for cancer or not.

    I'm not a Trump supporter, didn't vote for him and won't vote for him. I would have voted for Bernie had he gained the Democratic nomination but Hillary stole it. Democrats have been challenging each other to see who can play identity politics the hardest, and I don't believe things like sex, gender, race, or sexual preference to be the only things that matter about a person. They've been going farther and farther to the left so now I don't have a party.
    You seem to be under the impression that I care. For one thing, I don't believe you, your rhetoric is painfully dishonest in that regard. My issue is that if you are truly bothered by "lies" or whatever other form of political dishonesty, then your fixation should almost be entirely on the White House.

    The Left is slowly becoming irrelevant. Fox News is/was ridiculed by the Left, but after the Covington incident, I have to believe the Left is truly brainwashed by the media. It wasn't about reporting the news, it was about attacking kids and spreading hate. I complain about Biden and it immediately becomes "Shut up Trump supporter". In the 90s Democrats would say "I don't agree with what you said but I'd die to defend your right to say it." Now, they want people fired for not using the gender they want to be called that day. I attack the Left because it betrayed the principles it stood for and left me feeling stupid for having trusted it.
    Uh huh. And I'm supposed to believe you would've voted for Sanders? You can keep crying about how "mean" leftists are, but the fact is that your post got worked up over nothing. It's as if you're just looking for something to criticize on the "Left".

  2. #502

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    That's amusing. I don't recall liberals here saying that the sabotage of the Sanders' campaign was the right thing to do, or at the very least, I don't recall ever saying it myself, or the majority of the Forum's "Left" stating so. Neither does anybody actually care if you're a Trump supporter, but it is touching to see your sensibilities so offended. The reality is that it doesn't make any difference whether you are a Trump supporter, a closet Clinton supporter, a fascist, or commie. What matters is your fixation with criticizing one side of the political spectrum, especially when even a cursory glance clearly shows that Republicans and Donald Trump in particular, are the worst offenders of "dishonesty" or whatever you wanna call it.
    The only reason you think I'm "fixated" with criticizing one side of the political spectrum is because you don't pay attention to any of my other arguments. Secondly, you're the one making angst ridden posts about my political position whilst simultaneously arguing that you don't care about it.



  3. #503

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1c_fail View Post
    The only reason you think I'm "fixated" with criticizing one side of the political spectrum is because you don't pay attention to any of my other arguments. Secondly, you're the one making angst ridden posts about my political position whilst simultaneously arguing that you don't care about it.
    One does not need to pay attention to every single post you make to know the threads you're typically active in, and the ideas you attack or defend. It's not particularly difficult, but you can keep denying it if you want. It doesn't change the hysterics you posted previously in this thread about false assumptions of your political beliefs. Boo hoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    One does not need to pay attention to every single post you make to know the threads you're typically active in, and the ideas you attack or defend. It's not particularly difficult, but you can keep denying it if you want. It doesn't change the hysterics you posted previously in this thread about false assumptions of your political beliefs. Boo hoo.
    Bizarre lol.



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    Ep1c, do you have a political compass or something? I find myself trying to get you to clarify certain political beliefs or platforms that you would seem to rather not address. The most I can be confident about is that you seem anti-globalization, but that seems to be about it.
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  6. #506

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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Ep1c, do you have a political compass or something? I find myself trying to get you to clarify certain political beliefs or platforms that you would seem to rather not address. The most I can be confident about is that you seem anti-globalization, but that seems to be about it.
    I'm not "anti-globalization" I just oppose some of the more pernicious aspects of it, particularly mass migrant economics and supranational over reach.



  7. #507

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    That doesn't really answer my question, are you anything other than a "nothing-ist"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    That doesn't really answer my question, are you anything other than a "nothing-ist"?
    I'm a proponent of independent thinking, local autonomy, speaking truth to power, national sovereignty, English exceptionalism, the year 1998 and and our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.
    Last edited by Cope; July 31, 2019 at 07:56 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1c_fail View Post
    I'm a proponent of independent thinking, local autonomy, speaking truth to power, national sovereignty, English exceptionalism, the year 1998 and and our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.
    I think each side has a different definition for this. Leftists, especially whites, think this means that you think you are better and others must yield. Mostly tied to them being less aggressive/effeminate. Group dynamics plays to psychology like in many species of animals. They don't compete because they are the selectors (not talking about group hierarchy). Rightists, think think this means that you're great. They're more aggressive/masculine, and are more solitary because they have to compete to get selected. Everything is about sex. Your brain is an appendage to your testicles, not the other way around. By random chance our genes are different and some genes are better than others. Genes that program you to think you're better means you'll think you deserve something, couple those with genes that give you the will to pursue the things you think you deserve. Your genes think you deserve more than the other guy means you'll pursue, achieve more, have the possibility to spread your genes more and now bam, there's are lot more in the next generation that want and compete for more and that guy you beat doesn't get to have kids because women are programmed to want the next generation that they house for 9 months.

    Take away sex between men and women and you have a smaller, weaker, less capable male that wants your resources, to impress a person you will use to create the next generation. So men compete with each other, it's why we and animals fight. If women did the same the species wouldn't exist because there'd be fewer females. About 100 years ago is was very common to lose children in infancy. That's a lot of resources put into spreading selfish genes that didn't work and you have a limited time to spread those genes. Imagine if women had to compete with each other? They'd kill each other at the rate men do and there would be hardly any of them around to spend nine months of resources on an attempt to replicate.

    So... "I'm great" to Leftists means disruption in group dynamics because in order to be great something must not be great and when something is great it deserves more whether it just be praise or resources. Pregnant women aren't great, they're annoying, require more resources, and are less productive. At that stage they get out competed for resources by non pregnant women and die. Not competing makes them ALL more likely to survive. Men don't get pregnant and thus have a more aggressive brain. We compete with men and women we don't want to have sex with so we can have sex. More resources mean you're more likely to get to have sex because money/resources is the highest ranked category of importance for women on dating sites. Men list physical attraction because that means a women is healthy/has good genes. They're less capable resource gatherers and aren't going to even capable of even doing that a lot of the time because they'll be pregnant or watching your genes in baby format.

    It's no coincidence the rise of communism/socialism/welfare state coincided with women voting, the lowering of the average male testosterone, and participation trophies. Everybody in the group is equal and everybody in group gets the exact same because we can't compete. Men are programmed to be aggressive and compete for the top and aren't programmed to be sympathetic to an individual that want my resources and isn't going to contribute. Except for what's colloquially known as "the sneaky er strategy", though you see it in most animals. They pretend to be less aggressive and more effeminate in stature so females treat them like other females and are less on guard. Women are afraid of men because men's job is to protect women and we've gotten to the stage women don't have to worry about being eaten by a lion every day so now the only thing they have to be scared of is men. When women are less on guard they more likely to breed and that's when the sneaker er makes his move. Because he's more effeminate he can't compete with more aggressive dominant males so things like forcing others to give them resources is better.

    Costs[edit]

    Further information: Alternative mating strategy
    Harems can prove energetically costly for both males and females. Males spend substantial amounts of energy engaging in battles to invade a harem, or to keep hold of a harem once dominance has been established.[9] Such energy expenditure can result in reduced reproductive success such in the case of red deer.[9] This is especially true when there is high turnover rates of dominant males, as frequent intense fighting can result in great expenditure of energy.[9] High turnover rate of dominant males can also be energetically costly for the females as their offspring are frequently killed in harems where infanticide occurs. Harems can also negatively affect females if there is intra-harem competition among females for resources.[15]
    A lower-cost alternative mating strategy, useful to bachelors without a harem, is kleptogyny or the "sneaky er strategy",[a][17]sneaking in to mate while the harem owner is distracted: in the case of red deer, when the harem stag is involved in a fight with another older stag.[17] The strategy is also recorded in the elephant seal.[18]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(zoology)#Costs

    Sorry for the mistakes, I'm really high right now.
    Last edited by NorthernXY; July 31, 2019 at 12:44 PM.

  10. #510

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    How many candidates are pro reparations? I've seen Warren is pro. What are the statute of limitations?

    If black people are owed reparations, then they owe the rest of the world reparations. It is never the winner in a fight that has to do what the loser wants then leave their land and go somewhere far enough away the loser can't force their will on them. Their ancestors forced the ancestors of the rest of the world out., So technically they are the descendants and beneficiaries of the people who started the whole damn thing. They forced the rest of the world's ancestors away. That distance was so far and hard to travel the diverging sides would barely interact with each other till the 1500s. We've all been evil to each other now, let's move on, or...

    Hooray for making everything about race, now we can go back to killing each other like the good old days.

    #neveragain
    Last edited by NorthernXY; August 01, 2019 at 12:47 AM.

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    The debates were interesting. Not a fan of Gabbard but she completely crushed Harris in the debate while Harris resorted to talking about busing again with Biden. Playing the race card isn't helping her nor bringing up an old issue that isn't exactly relevant.

    None of the moderates really broke out. Hickenlooper nade some comments but nothing to garner him any real attention.

    Andrew Yang had the most realistic and dumbest answer to climate change. He advocates Americans to move to higher ground to avoid the effects of climate change. Though that wouldn't help he was right in saying the US isn't the only nation emitting greenhouse gasses and that its too late to stop climate change. I'm inclined to agree with that considering the fact that nations like China and India are huge greenhouse gas emitters and the US going green likely won't offset global emissions.

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    I really like Gabbard, it's good she got more attention this time and scored good points.
    ryan said goods things too, as did hickenlooper but I sadly don't think either of them are charismatic enough.
    and bittigieg still seems like a nice guy.
    finally i'm glad no one started speaking spanish, it was so unbearably cringy last time, ugh..

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    I am not happy about that. It makes the party look like a bunch of loons and makes Trump re-election more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    I am not happy about that. It makes the party look like a bunch of loons and makes Trump re-election more likely.
    Gabbards comments?

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    No, that noone spoke in Spanish.

    Oh no no no no.
    Propagandists Are Freaking Out Over Gabbard’s Destruction Of Harris

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/08...ion-of-harris/
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/politics/next-democratic-debate.html


    Seven Candidates currently qualify for the next round. The rest have about a month to make BOTH the polling and donations requirements. That is, 130,000 unique donors and 2% in four unique polls. If they don’t have ten different qualifiers there will just be one debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/politics/next-democratic-debate.html


    Seven Candidates currently qualify for the next round. The rest have about a month to make BOTH the polling and donations requirements. That is, 130,000 unique donors and 2% in four unique polls. If they don’t have ten different qualifiers there will just be one debate.
    Sad the only one I can stomach maybe would be Mayor Pete but I wish he had more experience maybe as a governor.
    Liked how Ryan came after Bernie's health-care plan. It shows the party has went from a party to represent the working class to one that is just about welfare handout vote buying.
    I paid off my student loans, why should I have to pay for someone that picked low employable area of studies?

    Trump will win the traditional Democrat areas of the rust-belt again.

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    How Kamala Harris has any appeal is beyond me.

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    The DNC's darling, Kamala Harris, "lit up" by Gabbard.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1c_fail View Post
    The DNC's darling, Kamala Harris, "lit up" by Gabbard.
    Unpopular query, not necessarily directed at you in particular: Why does anyone “like” Tulsi as opposed to other candidates? What is the “it” factor that leads people to support her over, say, Sanders?
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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