USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

[Pontifex Maximus]

If by "right conclusions" you mean leftist cash payouts because muh socialism and muh UBI then no, I am not stumbling into the "right conclusions"

[Love Mountain]

If by "right conclusions" you mean leftist cash payouts because muh socialism and muh UBI then no, I am not stumbling into the "right conclusions"

Says the guy who was just celebrating a 1200$ check. Be consistent, will you?

[Pontifex Maximus]

Says the guy who was just celebrating a 1200$ check. Be consistent, will you?

The government denied my freedom to work for three months in favor of a hysterical agenda by which only 99% of us would survive a pandemic response. When a government taking occurs, those who have been taken from are entitled to compensation. You're right for the wrong reasons or as I prefer to characterize it, wrong for the right reasons. In any sense though, no, you're wrong. The degrees by which you are wrong are impressive.

[Love Mountain]

The government denied my freedom to work for three months in favor of a hysterical agenda by which only 99% of us would survive a pandemic response. When a government taking occurs, those who have been taken from are entitled to compensation. You're right for the wrong reasons or as I prefer to characterize it, wrong for the right reasons. In any sense though, no, you're wrong. The degrees by which you are wrong are impressive.

The government enacting public health measures during a pandemic is an evil agenda. Drink some coffee and rethink your priorities.

[PointOfViewGun]

Bro, you just gonna sit there and pretend the Trump Bucks Bailout didn't exist? You should be expressing your lefty orgasm from the rooftops that the feds gave the out of work proletariat a $1,200.00 payout. POWER TO THE PEOPLE

I don't see how the stimulus package changes what pay the employees get on a monthly basis and what their rights and benefits are. Clearly, you don't see its relevance too since you try to muddy the waters with what comes after that. If you don't have a solid ground to stand on why are you trying to jump?

[Gaidin]

The government denied my freedom to work for three months in favor of a hysterical agenda by which only 99% of us would survive a pandemic response. When a government taking occurs, those who have been taken from are entitled to compensation. You're right for the wrong reasons or as I prefer to characterize it, wrong for the right reasons. In any sense though, no, you're wrong. The degrees by which you are wrong are impressive.

Another person trying to narrow down CV-19 to the black and white of life and death. A few should show you their ICU bills for dealing with it sometime. And those are the survivors with particularly nasty cases. There are all manner of grey area "crap I have to go to the hospital and work up a medical bill to deal with this....I hope I don't have to go into the ICU".

Your fallacy is denied.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Your tears are proof of my righteousness. Ignore the takings implications? Check. Ignore the way medical bills work in the US? Check. It's like a smorgasbord of lefty priorities generating contradictions while completely ignoring the fact that we must allow the *right* protests to exist while denouncing the *wrong* protests from continuing. Nobody is convinced, nobody is nearly as stupid as you wished they were.

>anyone protesting against quarantine is a right wing domestic terrorist

>anyone protesting under the auspices of BLM are sacrosanct

>anyone looting or rioting under the auspices of BLM are sacrosanct

>Oh Covid-19? Who's she?

I'm just happy I'm not personally gullible enough to believe this narrative.

[PointOfViewGun]

Your tears are proof of my righteousness. Ignore the takings implications? Check. Ignore the way medical bills work in the US? Check. It's like a smorgasbord of lefty priorities generating contradictions while completely ignoring the fact that we must allow the *right* protests to exist while denouncing the *wrong* protests from continuing. Nobody is convinced, nobody is nearly as stupid as you wished they were.
>anyone protesting against quarantine is a right wing domestic terrorist
>anyone protesting under the auspices of BLM are sacrosanct
>anyone looting or rioting under the auspices of BLM are sacrosanct
>Oh Covid-19? Who's she?
I'm just happy I'm not personally gullible enough to believe this narrative.

Probably because such a narrative doesn't exist. Why you bank so much on false caricaturization of what people argue here while talking about how they ignore stuff is beyond understanding.

[Lifthrasir]

Please stay on topic Gents. This is about the Democratic Party Primaries, not about the Covid-19.

[alhoon]

Frankly, the only significant waves Biden is making, is about the black people and Floyd. You may agree or disagree with him on his views and what he says or think he doesn't go far enough... but he has something to say.

On most other issues Biden is just "placeholder" and "the not-Trump". He resurfaces 1-2 per day to say something or criticize Trump about something, but it is mostly because he has to say something, not because he has something to say.
Biden was always gaffe-prone. But I start to believe he is really too old for this game.

The Democrats coalesced around the guy that would do... what exactly? Not be Trump, got it. Say a few nice things. Right.
And then?
Biden seems like a perfect candidate for President of Democracy of Greece: a ceremonial title with very few powers, a head of state whose primary job is to say a few nice things before national days, appear calm and dignified in the news during bad times to reassure us things would turn better and rubberstamp whatever the parliament sends him.
Or, you know, how the European monarchs act these days.

What Biden doesn't look like, is someone that could be the head executive of a large and diverse country, the biggest economy and the biggest army. Sure, sure, he can be the guy that shakes Merkel's hand and talks nicely to her. Perhaps they will talk about their grandkids in heartwarming moments.
And then, once the actual discussion about environment, Russia, Middle East, global economy etc starts Biden would have precious few things to say.



Let's assume Biden wins:
Who would run the show?! Who would be making the decisions that Biden would be too slow to take?
I certainly don't mean there'll be a conspiracy of globalists puppeteering him from the shadows telling him what to say. I don't say that, I don't believe that.

But then, without said conspiracy... who would run the show?!
There would be a large leadership vacuum.
You may hate Trump and say that there's a leadership vacuum with Trump and all. But this is not about Trump, this is about Biden.


OK, let's assume that Trump is absolutely horrible. Let's move past that.

Do the Democrats actually think that Biden is good enough? Really?
Aside of "not Trump", what other things do the democratic establishment want in their future president? Just the ability to NOT tweet insults several times per day? That's the bar for PotUS today?