View Poll Results: Who's your favourite candidate for the 2020 Democratic Primaries?

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  • Bernie Sanders.

    19 48.72%
  • Joe Biden.

    5 12.82%
  • Neither.

    15 38.46%
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    We'll see at the next census next year, but it's totally demographic. New generations are more ''liberal'' simply because they are more Hispanic. It's a headcount.
    Hell, the youngest generations are actually more Hispanic than white, so the state technically is already lost.

    Save your explanations of ''how government'' works for someone who's stupid enough not to see what your side is doing.

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    Supposed youth or Hispanic hostility to conservatism doesn't explain Cruz's razor-thin victory margin, since AGW-denying, conservative Republican Greg Abbott won a 13-point victory in the same election cycle. Cruz is just unpopular with many demographics, especially independents, plus O'Rourke was a rare "charismatic" candidate who managed to double Democratic turnout. He also outspent Cruz 3 to 1, largely thanks to out-of-state donations. It was actually the most expensive Senate election in US history. All this, and Democrats still lost the election, along with every other statewide race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Save your explanations of ''how government'' works for someone who's stupid enough not to see what your side is doing.
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    The whole Texas thing has more to do with liberal middle class refugees from urban areas of California that move to Texas (to escape wacky liberal policies), but vote for... politicians who will now introduce same wacky liberal policies in the place they just moved to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    Supposed youth or Hispanic hostility to conservatism doesn't explain Cruz's razor-thin victory margin, since AGW-denying, conservative Republican Greg Abbott won a 13-point victory in the same election cycle. Cruz is just unpopular with many demographics, especially independents, plus O'Rourke was a rare "charismatic" candidate who managed to double Democratic turnout. He also outspent Cruz 3 to 1, largely thanks to out-of-state donations. It was actually the most expensive Senate election in US history. All this, and Democrats still lost the election, along with every other statewide race.
    Maybe. We'll see next year. One thing that can stop this farce is Casticismo. Few in the US know that even in Mexico there's an ethnic division between ''whites'', mostly descendants of Spanish colonials and mostly representated in the middle to upper class and the natives or mixed who are often poor. In the US they are simply all classified as ''Hispanic'' which doesn't allow the differentiation, but the impact on demographics is important, mostly because many ''Hispanics'' simply identify as white and often vote Republican. However the ratio is still aproximately 2 to 1 for Dems, which is indeed a recipe for disaster for Republicans.

    Their best hope and that's what Trump was supposed to do, is to slow down immigration significantly and give Hispanics time to assimilate within American culture. In that case it might as well work out like it did with the Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans etc.

    The alternative is to simply let the nutjobs of the Democratic party take over and prepare for a social collapse. The scenario here is similar to how the left reduced Brazil with the runs of Lula and Roussef: widespread corruption, heavy social engineering, economic waste widespread.

    This map is pretty telling for the correlation:
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    Then again, so is this one for Texas:

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    That's damn strange:

    "According to the poll, 71% of the voters say that the economy is "good" or "excellent," the highest proportion of favorable feelings on the economy in nearly 18 years of Quinnipiac's polling.
    Last month's economic data showed that unemployment in the United States had fallen to 3.6%, a 50-year low.
    That said, 45% of voters disapproved of Trump's handling of the economy, while 48% approved. "

    In short: The USA economy as far as it affects the average American is in its best shape in modern history and... about half the people, saying that the economy is excellent, disapprove of what the president does on the economy (That is the best in modern USA history).
    Not how he does in foreign affairs or how he handles immigration or his cabinet.
    Nope, they disapprove of the POTUS' handling of the economy, during an economic miracle...
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    Well, I see the democrats are trying to outdo each other on abortion now that it’s back in the news. Biden, Buttigieg, Booker, Gillibrand (sp?), all promising to repeal the Hyde amendment so we can have government funded abortion. I’m sure this position is popular with the people in the party that consider babies to be parasites; but I’m not sure this is the key to winning back the rust belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    That's damn strange:

    "According to the poll, 71% of the voters say that the economy is "good" or "excellent," the highest proportion of favorable feelings on the economy in nearly 18 years of Quinnipiac's polling.
    Last month's economic data showed that unemployment in the United States had fallen to 3.6%, a 50-year low.
    That said, 45% of voters disapproved of Trump's handling of the economy, while 48% approved. "

    In short: The USA economy as far as it affects the average American is in its best shape in modern history and... about half the people, saying that the economy is excellent, disapprove of what the president does on the economy (That is the best in modern USA history).
    Not how he does in foreign affairs or how he handles immigration or his cabinet.
    Nope, they disapprove of the POTUS' handling of the economy, during an economic miracle...
    We live in a post-materialist era because many people never faced economic harshness. Liberals will soon enough. Actually considering the exodus from places like Illinois, NYC, California and other liberal s, some are getting the sting of it already.

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    In his first 24 hours of announcing his campaign, Trump got more $$$ in that all three top Democrat candidates combined.


    Or so we're told.

    Frankly, I think that's a bit fishy. For starters, everyone knew it was coming so the Republicans were ready, wallet in hand to support their candidate as Trump has not faced any significant challenge from his own party.
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    Some the lead Democrat candidates are putting slavery reparations for black Americans on their platforms. The pandering begins.

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    You are joking, right? Please tell me that’s not true.

    That’s supposed to restricted to memes, not real life.
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    It is unfortunately true.
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    An idea that makes no sense. If this were 1865 they'd have a point. Any reparations would obviously come from tax payers where you'd end up making people who were never even here involved with slavery pay for it.

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    I agree with vanoi. If reparations had been abolished in 2010 reparations would make sense for those alive that were affected by it.
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    It's Hillary Clinton hot sauce in my bag level pandering at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    You are joking, right? Please tell me that’s not true.

    That’s supposed to restricted to memes, not real life.
    Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., who will testify at the hearing Wednesday, has introduced a Senate version of Lee’s bill to study the question. In his prepared testimony, he says the U.S. has yet to "truly acknowledge and grapple with the racism and white supremacy that tainted this country's founding and continues to cause persistent and deep racial disparities and inequality."

    According to the legislation being discussed at the hearing, the commission would “study and consider a national apology and proposal for reparations for the institution of slavery."


    Booker also called out Biden. Something about Biden saying he missed how civil the Senate use to be. Referring to some Senator that was a segregationist and you can't work around them you have to work with to get things done.

    Biden is likely the best chance to win 2020, but I can see him pulling out just due to the sheer asinine behavior of these crazies.


    In the case of reparations. If they do that then controls like Affirmative Action, scholarships based on ethnicity and historically black colleges should be abolished.
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    For starters, reparations would never be "enough". Some black people's rights organizations will demand more reparations later.
    Second, if Black people get reparations for slavery in 19th century and for discrimination until the 70s, then what about Native Americans? Blacks are not the only people that have been targeted by USA in the past. What about the Japanese that were put in prison in 1940s?
    Third, how exactly would they be able to know who was the descendant of a slave? Just by color of skin? And what if your great grandfather came to USA in 1910s? What if one of your great great great great grandparents was a slave owner and say your grandmother, a century later, is a descendant of a slave?


    Let's call it what it is: It's a handout based on skin color. And that's racism; you give based on skin color instead of discriminate against.
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    I personally want to see ''reparations'' because it'd prove how retarded liberals supporting them really are.
    Let's say you are an African American, but you are also a recent immigrant from Africa (or your parents came to America). Do you get reparations anyway?
    Let's say you identify as African American, and look as such, but DNA says you are only half black and the other half is white. Let's assume by chance that your white side included slave owners. Do you get reparations?
    Let's say you look white and identify as white, but you are also 1/8 black and that includes some ancestors that were slaves. Do you get 1/8 reparations?
    Are liberal retards going to have a mass DNA census to determine what percentage of the reparations package you get?
    What about the Rachel Dolezal of America, who aren't black but identify as such?

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    There were some interesting cases made in the testimony that would require its own thread to actually discuss. The thing is in this thread: they know if it’s not dead on arrival it won’t pass. What it’s doing is drawing intra-party battle lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    There were some interesting cases made in the testimony that would require its own thread to actually discuss. The thing is in this thread: they know if it’s not dead on arrival it won’t pass. What it’s doing is drawing intra-party battle lines.
    That's another annoying thing about it. They know it won't pass. They know it would most probably be dead on arrival even if it ever reaches the congress. All they do is politicking and trying to sound progressive by pandering to a minority promising them $$$$.
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