Sweboz Questions

[Hirtius]

1. Is the Sweboz roster complete? If so, what type of units (if known) are being thought about?

2. This is along the lines of the first. The only sword unit is is the Sweboz bodyguard (besides the Oksywie and Belgae). Are there any plans or speculation to add a sword or axe unit? How rare were such weapons?

3. Some of the germanic spear units have 3 armor despite appearing unarmored. Why is that?

Also, this probably belongs in the bugs section and has probably already been mentioned before, but the late warjoz description picture is missing.

[Lusitanio]

Well, not exactly Germanic but you can see on twitter some of the new units that Sweboz will use like the pomeranians and scandinavian units. For the Germans you have the Germanic chosen youth that will be on the next version, and a quick look at the export_descr_unit file can tell you that there will be a Celto-Germanic infantry unit, Wargoz (unit name but no further information on what it is), Herunautoz (the same as the other), the Herthaganauthoz, the Dugunthiz Hattisku. So yeah, there are still a good amount of germanic and baltic units missing.

[athanaric]

[...] and a quick look at the export_descr_unit file can tell you that there will be a Celto-Germanic infantry unit, Wargoz (unit name but no further information on what it is), Herunautoz (the same as the other), the Herthaganauthoz, the Dugunthiz Hattisku. So yeah, there are still a good amount of germanic and baltic units missing.

I think those are leftovers from EB1, lines of obsolete code that haven't been deleted yet. The Chatti Spearmen and the heavy spearmen are already implemented in 2.35, albeit under slightly different names, and the Wargozez probably won't be included again (though they were really cool *sniff*).

[QuintusSertorius]

Sweboz are an under-developed faction with a lot still to be decided. I'm conscious of having dealt with them the least, of all the factions, as far as working on their mechanics goes, and frankly I still don't understand what the original intent was with them.

[Rad]

3. Some of the germanic spear units have 3 armor despite appearing unarmored. Why is that?

Thanks for reminding me.

[QuintusSertorius]

Indeed, don't take any of the random labels in the EDU as authoritative on what is planned. No one has looked at those in a very long time, and I'm often deleting them as irrelevant. They're certainly not aligned with the current Unit List.

[Roma_Victrix]

I'll just butt in to say that the Chatti spear men are AWESOME looking. I'm satisfied that I can have them even as the Romans.

However, I am distraught that, while I can recruit Noric swordsmen, I can't do the same with Cisalpine swordsmen, even though I can recruit Cisalpine cavalry!!!

[INSERT LOUD, ANGRY, DISAPPOINTED ROMA_VICTRIX NOISES HERE.]

[QuintusSertorius]

Something I fixed a few weeks ago, when integrating the Rhaetic Infantry (civlib pool):

;;; ALPINE CELTIC
recruit_pool "celtic cavalry cisalpine"  2  0.01  2  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and not event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 and not event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1
recruit_pool "celtic cavalry boii elite"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 or event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1
recruit_pool "celtic cavalry cisalpine"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 or event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1
recruit_pool "celtic infantry cisalpine swordsman"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource eastcelt and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource liburnes ; Felsina
recruit_pool "celtic infantry rhaetic"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource eastcelt and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource royal_core ; Medilanon
recruit_pool "celtic infantry uextias"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt
recruit_pool "celtic infantry spearman"  2  0.01  2  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt
recruit_pool "celtic infantry levy"  2  0.01  2  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt
recruit_pool "celtic infantry skirmisher"  2  0.01  2  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and not event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 and not event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1
recruit_pool "celtic infantry skirmisher"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 or event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1
recruit_pool "celtic infantry slinger"  1  0.01  1  0  requires factions { f_rome, } and hidden_resource celtic and hidden_resource gallic and hidden_resource eastcelt and event_counter ecCelticRiders 1 or event_counter ecCelticTwilight 1

[Hirtius]

Does anyone know why some unarmored looking units (like the veteran spear men) have 3 armor?

[Rad]

Does anyone know why some unarmored looking units (like the veteran spear men) have 3 armor?

I'll get to it, don't worry. Probably has something to do with balancing.