CTD on start of turn

**Doomsday** · April 09, 2019, 10:20 AM

Hi,
I'm getting a CTD at the start of my turn, I've tried a few separate factions, and whilst its the same for all of them, it's more frequent with the Mannish campaigns as opposed to elves/dwarves.

It happens every few turns, literally at thew last possible moment before I start my turn. If I go back into it and reload the autosave, it starts as if there hadn't been a CTD and instead had proceded as normal.

I also noticed some unit pictures were missing from the elven units recruitable from mithlond, though can't remember which off the top of my head.

save attached if it helps.

**Aexodus** · April 10, 2019, 06:14 PM

Spitballing here, but could it have something to do with getting to a certain faction in the end-turn phase and then cutting out? Similar to the Ottoman Empire bug in ETW.

**CountMRVHS** · April 10, 2019, 08:20 PM

Hmm, missing unit cards for the Elves sounds strange. Are you running the latest version, 3.3?

Do you have any settlements under siege when the crash occurs?

**webba84** · April 10, 2019, 08:23 PM

This is probably memory related crashes, and unfortunately there isn't much we can do about them, and the one solution that may help cannot be mentioned on these forums.

WRT to the elven unit cards, they aren't missing, your faction doesn't have enough information to know what those units are. This is normal RTW vanilla behaviour.

**Doomsday** · April 11, 2019, 02:14 AM

I had the missing cards when playing as the elves, I started a new campaign as them yesterday, and they’d appeared, so god knows what that was about.

i had a bit of trouble finding information about the memory issues, why can’t people mention it on these forums? Or link to discussions/downloads elsewhere?

hopefully sorting that tonight, I’ll let you know if that’s the issue

**webba84** · April 11, 2019, 04:00 AM

Hop over to our discord and I can fill you in: https://discordapp.com/channels/4212...14023074316289

**CountMRVHS** · April 11, 2019, 03:43 PM

If you're checking the units via the building browser (looking ahead to see what a higher-tier building provides, for example), *sometimes* it doesn't display the unit images on the cards.

If I remember correctly.

**Doomsday** · April 13, 2019, 05:34 AM

Cheers again chaps, it was a memory problem, all sorted and running smoothly

**Doomsday** · April 13, 2019, 04:13 PM

As an aside, is the script for the west gate of moria working in 3.3?
I’ve had Tharbad marching three that before I’ve built it up

**webba84** · April 13, 2019, 08:15 PM

The west gate of moria was not a script, it was a trick with how roads interact with the map. It was also bugged and would stop working properly (loss of trade income) after saving and reloading, so we removed it for 3.3. You can still build the west gate for the improved trade income, but the path is open from the start now.