Server Updates

[Gigantus]

AFter logging in, I get the following message..."Invalid Redirect URL (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php)".....

Are you logging in with an old short cut\bookmark? Then add an s after the http in it's link.

[Veteraan]

Are you logging in with an old short cut\bookmark? Then add an s after the http in it's link.

Thanks Gig, had the same problem and it was very annoying, but switching to https in the link(s) worked like a charm.

[century x]

I cannot quote....
Thanks for the update on the servers. I was getting concerned last night when the site was not coming up.
Also, good news that you do have plans to switch it over to HTTPS eventually.

[Leonardo]

I cannot quote....

I'm not sure if this works or not, but you can always type a quote manually by doing this.

1. Type [QUOTE] then copy the post and add [/QUOTE] at the end of the text.
2. Change the [QUOTE] to [QUOTE=century x;15769385], in this case I manually quoted your post like this.


[QUOTE=century x;15769385]I cannot quote....[/QUOTE]

The "=century x" after "QUOTE" is the poster and the number "15769385" is the last number in a link to a certain post in a thread.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?795267-Server-Updates&p=15769385&viewfull=1#post[COLOR="#0000FF"][B]15769385[/B][/COLOR]


I hope this helps.

[Gaius Baltar]

Thought I would communicate this information from my browser tracker.... the tracking cookies seems excessive, and can vary anywhere from 16-22, and the loading time is a direct result of that Im sure....

[Skotos of Sinope]

Yay! Once again, thanks Squid for all the hard work.

One issue I just noticed today is that I'm unable to view the last page of a thread in certain forums. You click on the last one, and it takes you to the second-to-last one.

[Caillagh de Bodemloze]

Yay! Once again, thanks Squid for all the hard work.

One issue I just noticed today is that I'm unable to view the last page of a thread in certain forums. You click on the last one, and it takes you to the second-to-last one.

I was also having that problem. Have you tried changing the way you view threads so that you see the most recent post first? (It's in the General Settings section of you profile settings - look for "Thread Display Mode" (under "Thread Display Options") and choose "Linear - newest first".) It won't solve any problems you might be having with inaccuracies in the forum index, but it will mean that the newest posts are always on the first page of each thread, and since the page you can't get to is the last page, it may mean you can see the newest posts. It's currently working for me, at least.

[Cookiegod]

What I don't get: Wouldn't it have been better to simply test those updates out on an offline version of the forum, and then simply dish an update out once it was done?

Replies have stopped working, and some posts no longer seem to register.

[Kilo11]

Hey tech masters,

This is not a complaint, but rather just a log of a problem I am noticing (in case having such things brought to your attention may prove useful). When I go to my account page (which is my default page for when I open TWC), for some reason the "Subscribed Threads with New Posts" area says there are no new posts in threads I've subscribed to, even though there are such posts. I only noticed this because I am subscribed to some forums as well, and in that area I could see that there were these new posts, but they weren't listed in the subscribed threads area just above. I assume this is related to everything else that's going on, but I just thought I'd mention it, so that all's y'alls know as well

And again, thanks for all of the work and dedication!

[century x]

Hello,
Where is this site being hosted from ?
A datacenter? someones house, In the united states, Great Britain ?
What Operating system is it running under ?
Sorry, being a network technician you tend to get curious and since i've been coming to this site since 2004 I would like to know its inner guts - LOL

Thanks

[GrnEyedDvl]

Hello,
Where is this site being hosted from ?
A datacenter? someones house, In the united states, Great Britain ?
What Operating system is it running under ?
Sorry, being a network technician you tend to get curious and since i've been coming to this site since 2004 I would like to know its inner guts - LOL

Thanks

Took me a while to find it, but here is a wiki page that Simetrical made long ago and promised to update "slightly more often than never". True to his word, it hasn't been updated since 2010. You have to hit the Edit button to view the text right now until we update wiki software, but its still readable.

http://www.twcenter.net/w/index.php?...fo&action=edit


There is also a bunch of stuff in here, some way out of date as well. There are some private forums with a lot more info, but then they also have a lot of info we do not want public. Is there something specific you are curious about?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...chnical-Bazaar

[Aexodus]

Took me a while to find it, but here is a wiki page that Simetrical made long ago and promised to update "slightly more often than never". True to his word, it hasn't been updated since 2010. You have to hit the Edit button to view the text right now until we update wiki software, but its still readable.

http://www.twcenter.net/w/index.php?...fo&action=edit


There is also a bunch of stuff in here, some way out of date as well. There are some private forums with a lot more info, but then they also have a lot of info we do not want public. Is there something specific you are curious about?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...chnical-Bazaar

Thanks a million to yourself and Squid, appreciate all the work you guys do.

[century x]

Took me a while to find it, but here is a wiki page that Simetrical made long ago and promised to update "slightly more often than never". True to his word, it hasn't been updated since 2010. You have to hit the Edit button to view the text right now until we update wiki software, but its still readable.

http://www.twcenter.net/w/index.php?...fo&action=edit


There is also a bunch of stuff in here, some way out of date as well. There are some private forums with a lot more info, but then they also have a lot of info we do not want public. Is there something specific you are curious about?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...chnical-Bazaar

Thank you very much for the info.
Interesting specs on the server. I just love Ubuntu, don't you ???
I am glad that the site will be going to HTTPS at some point.

I'm just overall curious on the back-end of the site. It's awesome that the site is being runned off Linux with 64 GB of RAM. I look at servers all day and I'm always curious to know what is inside a box and what it is running.

Thanks for the INFO

[GrnEyedDvl]

I had no clue it cost that much to run a website. I thought it was like $20/year.

Um yeah well for the typical site out there you can do that. I have another server that is about 1/4 as powerful as the TWC server and it has probably 6-8 sites running on it, and could run another 500 just like them. It all depends how much traffic you get, and how much processing is done to show the page. A straight html page (no interactive, just static content) probably takes less than 1mb of RAM to process. A single page on TWC takes about 400 mb of RAM to process and we process thousands of them an hour. A typical website on a shared hosting platform might get 100 views a day if they are lucky.

Consider it like this. Shared hosting is like putting out a fire with your garden hose. Sure, you can put out your campfire. The forest fire, probably not...

By contrast TWC gets 10-20 views per second on average, and on a busy time 30-50 per second. And we have a TON of custom hooks in our vBulletin setup. And I do mean a ton. All our custom code probably triples our system requirements.

TWC is so much larger than the average website its actually a bit hard to grasp. Its nowhere near the size of Google or Yahoo or anything like that, but its still ranked 22,061 in the US by Alexa. What that number means is that out of the billions of websites out there, there are 22,060 that get more traffic from the US than we do. So that's probably in the top 1%. Probably in the top .5%, for traffic.

For income, not so much. We do not charge, and I do not allow the most profitable types of ads (popups, video, all the annoying crap) and a LOT of our members ad block us anyways. Lots of them are in 3rd world countries on dial up and the site alone is bad enough on that kind of connection, throwing in ads makes it worse, so I get why people block ads here. For the ones that allow ads through, they are in a demographic that doesn't generally pay that well in a category that doesn't pay that well.

TWC's average per month is $1100-1200. Some months we make a few hundred. Some months we lose a few hundred. And that's fine, the goal was never to become rich off it.

When you post, vBulletin does a number of processes so that everything is consistent. It hasn't been doing that, possibly because one or another process has been timing out.

We had a few nesting issues, not sure if thats related to editing or to the indexing. I bumped the specs on that but it wont go live until the next php restart.

Thank you very much for the info.
Interesting specs on the server. I just love Ubuntu, don't you ???

Its a tool. I don't love it, nor hate it.

I am glad that the site will be going to HTTPS at some point.

Waste of time. If I knew who to slap at Google he wouldn't see straight for a month.

I'm just overall curious on the back-end of the site. It's awesome that the site is being runned off Linux with 64 GB of RAM. I look at servers all day and I'm always curious to know what is inside a box and what it is running.

Thanks for the INFO

The cores are the most important part, though lots of RAM always helps having 64 cores (with an additional 32 available when Thor is up and running) is the important part. We can handle 64 page views per second assuming a 1 second processing time which we should be able to get really close to once this indexing is done. So if a thread view needs 400 mb of RAM and we have 64 at once, then the web services need 25,600 mb or 26 gigs of RAM. mysql uses another 15-30 gigs normally which puts us under our 64 so we don't have much swapping going on to slow things down.

[Alkarin]

Waste of time. If I knew who to slap at Google he wouldn't see straight for a month.

What do you mean by this? Setting up HTTPS is actually pretty easy and cheap, especially if you're running an AWS instance, you can do it for free.

I know google is going to (if they haven't already) start hiding search results to sites that aren't certified.

[Leonardo]

We had a few nesting issues, not sure if thats related to editing or to the indexing. I bumped the specs on that but it wont go live until the next php restart.

I take it then you mean php 7.x, the latest php version or am I mistaken.

[century x]

Test

[Axalon]

I have noticed that this page...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...itical-Academy

...does not update or show/list any new posts.

- A

[4zumi]

Thanks from me to for all the work and the update

I just wanted to report a second sighting of the issue Skrotos reported.

New posts made here can not be read/ do not show up. When I am logged out it says 13 pages but misses at least two posts. When I am logged in, it says 14 pages (where the two missing posts are suppoedly) but if I click on there it throwas me back to the beginning of page 13.

When I posted, I got a message that there was a database error.

Here is the link to the thread
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...5#post15769905

Thanks again and hope the report helps finding the issue

[Leonardo]

I dunno if this is gonna to work for everybody, but whatever you do don't click on anything when getting a database error or a message saying that you need to wait at least 20 seconds (you need to wait x seconds) before posting.

Just go back in your browser then click on a forum/subforum link. After that check the thread you posted and I'm 99% sure that your post is now visible to everybody including yourself.

The reason I mention is, because I know two of my post just vanish without a trace and I cannot view them no matter what I do.

So, don't continue when having those errors above instead just go back to where you were before submitted a post. I hope this helps for the time being, until GED or Squid have finished the upgrade.