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    I’ve got a few articles here I’m gonna share with quoted excerpts related to Finland’s increase in reported rape cases. Then I’m going to talk about the causes, and the perpetrators of these crimes.

    Sex abuse cases color immigration debate before Finnish election
    HELSINKI (Reuters) - The parliamentary heads of two of Finland’s largest parties have called for action after investigations against 19 foreign-born men on suspicion of sexual abuse of minors.

    The issue has boosted the support of the anti-immigration, populist The Finns Party, whose popularity jumped two points to over 10 percent in the latest poll published by the national broadcaster YLE ahead of a parliamentary election on April 14.

    Police have said there were foreign-born men among the 16 investigated for rape or other sexual abuses of adolescent girls in the town of Oulu over the last two months. On Sunday, police in Helsinki said they had arrested three foreign-born men on similar charges.
    Statistics Finland: Rape reports increased by 7.5% in Finland in 2017–2018
    THE NUMBER of sex crimes reported to law enforcement authorities increased by 13.8 per cent year-on-year in Finland in 2018, according to Statistics Finland.

    The number of rapes reported to authorities rose by 7.5 per cent to 1,338 and that of sexual harassment by almost 28 per cent to 529 in 2018. The number of rape reports remained below the previous year’s level for more than half of last year before rising between August and September.
    The Police of Finland cast light on its preliminary statistics on sex crimes earlier this week, reporting that foreigners accounted for a disproportionately large share (25%) of sex crimes reported in Finland. Foreign nationals make up fewer than five per cent of the total population of the country.

    The preliminary statistics show that foreigners were suspected in over 19 per cent of child sexual abuse and 34 per cent of rape cases in 2018.

    The statistics also show that sex crime reported to authorities increased most rapidly in Helsinki in 2018: the number of rape reports rose from 194 to 254 and that of child sexual abuse reports from 121 to 205.

    “Overall, the number of events is considerably higher in Helsinki,” Pekka Heikkinen, a chief superintendent at the National Police Board, commented to Uusi Suomi on Monday.

    Foreigners were suspected in nearly 54 per cent of rape and 32 per cent of child sexual abuse cases reported in the Finnish capital.
    “These kind of things shouldn’t be happening in Finland,” says Mykkänen
    Minister of the Interior Kai Mykkänen (NCP) has expressed his shock at reports that a group of men are suspected of repeatedly raping and sexually abusing an underage girl over a couple of months in Oulu, North Ostrobothnia.

    “Things like these shouldn’t be happening in Finland,” he
    lamented on YLE A-Studio on Monday.

    The Oulu Police Department on Saturday reported that several men of foreign background are suspected of repeatedly raping and sexually abusing a girl aged over 10 but under 15 in a number of flats in Oulu. The District Court of Oulu has detained a total of seven people on suspicion of aggravated child sexual abuse and aggravated rape in connection with the offences, which are believed to have taken place this year over a few-month period.

    More arrests are expected, according to the Oulu Police Department.

    The case has been described as exceptional also by Johanna Niemi, a professor of procedural law at the University of Turku. “Sometimes it feels like nothing can shock you, but this case certainly does,” she stated.

    YLE on Monday highlighted that foreign nationals are disproportionately represented in sex crime statistics: Finnish nationals were suspected of a total of 693 sex crimes and foreign nationals of 286 sex crimes in Finland in 2017.
    Unprecedented sex harassment in Helsinki at New Year, Finnish police report
    Security personnel reported “widespead sexual harrassment” during the celebrations, police added, with women complaining that asylum seekers had groped their breasts and kissed them without permission.

    “This phenomenon is new in Finnish sexual crime history,” Ilkka Koskimaki, the deputy chief of police in Helsinki, told the Telegraph. ”We have never before had this kind of sexual harrassment happening at New Year’s Eve.”

    He said that the police had received tip-offs from staff at the asylum reception centres.

    “Our information from these reception centres were that disturbances or other crimes would happen in the city centre. We were prepared for fights and sexual harrassment and thefts.”

    He said that police had established a “very massive presence” to control the estimated 1,000 Iraqi asylum seekers who had gathered in the tunnels surrounding the central railway station by 11pm, many of whom appeared to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

    Mr Koskimaki said that sexual assults in parks and on the streets had been unknown in Finland before a record 32,000 asylum seekers arrived in 2015, making the 14 cases last year “big news in the city”.
    Harsh figures published: This is how the number of sexual offenses in Finland increased in 2018 - see the situation in your home town - Google Translated
    The events in Oulu and Helsinki have raised the sex offenses committed by foreigners in particular as a national issue. Iltalehti published statistics on the Police Board on Tuesday.
    The number of sexual offenses increased by just under 15 per cent in 2018 from the previous year. There were 3826 reported sexual offenses all over the country last year. Just over 25 percent of them, or more than a quarter, were made by an alien. In the case of child sexual abuse, the proportion of foreigners was slightly under 20%, ie almost every fifth.


    Synk's situation is in Helsinki, where the reported sex offenses increased by almost 48 percent. The sexual exploitation of the child, on the other hand, increased by almost 70%.


    In 2018, foreigners accounted for just over 38 per cent of all reported sex offenses in Helsinki. It is less than the previous two years. Foreigners accounted for over 52 per cent of rape, or more than half.


    These are foreign citizens, ie the percentages do not take into account, for example, an immigrant who has acquired Finnish citizenship.


    All reported sex offenses, regardless of nationality, for 2017 and 2018 have been reported for the country as a whole.
    These cases have caused far-right vigilante thugs such as “Soldiers of Odin” to “patrol” their local towns and cities. While reported crime has increased, it’s unclear why. Authorities have simultaneously stated that while the 7.5% was due to crime being better reported, we have police chiefs stating that the kind of mass or gang rape now experienced is ‘new’ in Finland.

    Foreigners are clearly over-represented. At the extreme end, in Helsinki foreigners are responsible for 54% of all rape, and 32% of child abuse. There is clearly some kind of link between migration from certain countries and sexual assault.

    According to Wikipedia, foreigners are very over-represented, by as much as 17 times.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexu...nce_in_Finland
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    Here are two useful resources for this topic.
    https://www.quora.com/Are-there-real...-from-refugees
    https://angryforeignersources.blogsp...d%20and%20Oulu

    Let’s keep this thread calm and within the TOS. Don’t over-project what you believe of other users’ intentions, and stick to facts.
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    Default Re: Increase in Rape and Sexual Assault in Finland

    Here we go again...

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    Ahhhh A right-wing populist party claims there is more rape because of the islam/blacks, and now Alt-right thugs patrol the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnil Vark Khaitan View Post
    Ahhhh A right-wing populist party claims there is more rape because of the islam/blacks
    Who is claiming that? The Centre Party? The Social Democratic Party?
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    Nope. There is nothing to suggest dramatically that his heart is giving out. His heart attack is a testament to how well he can recover from something like that.

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    That Wikipedia link says over half of all Finnish women have experienced assault since 15 and thats for all of Finland. Even in places where the muzzies havent reached yet. Wtf is going in in Finland that makes the men so horny?




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    You read the story. Right? Notice the the points about increasing reporting. And the related fact the allegations are now taken seriously.

    "The National Crime Victim Survey indicates the incidence of sexual violence has not increased substantially in recent years"

    It looks like a jumpy and erratic bit of data.
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    They have to have increased reporting in Qatar too. You can pretty much do what you like to the migrant female workers and just pop back to Britain until it blows over.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    That Wikipedia link says over half of all Finnish women have experienced assault since 15 and thats for all of Finland. Even in places where the muzzies havent reached yet. Wtf is going in in Finland that makes the men so horny?
    Gotta be sub-zero temperatures and tight denim jeans.

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    On the men? I'm back in the UK for a bit from Qatar until something blows over, and i've noticed its pretty cold here and my jeans are pretty tight, but i must say i am less horny here compared to Doha so i dont know if thats true.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnil Vark Khaitan View Post
    Ahhhh A right-wing populist party claims there is more rape because of the islam/blacks, and now Alt-right thugs patrol the streets.
    They're not right-wing (welfare is supported by all parties).

    And do you deny the case in Oulu ever happened??

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    They are considered right wing in Europe. Anti-immigration, anti-same sex marriage, law and order etc. They would even be considered conservatives in America.




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    We can now add to the pile a paedophilic Nazi rape gang.

    http://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/k...0676#gs.37mw4m

    Anyone who's seen my posts on rape and immigration knows I'm not one to spout politically correct talking points but holy damn. "It also happens with huwhite Christians" ain't no joke. This ring spans 17 countries, though the main suspects are Finns. They created and spread sadistic child porn, including sexual torture and even CHILD MURDER. The children were all young boys and were drugged with meth. The imagery included Satanic and Nazi symboism. The main guy was the designated dealer of a famous Finnish singer who's recently been on the news due to his obsessive use of meth.

    Dear Lord. WTF is going on with my country?

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    We can now add to the pile a paedophilic Nazi rape gang.

    http://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/k...0676#gs.37mw4m

    Anyone who's seen my posts on rape and immigration knows I'm not one to spout politically correct talking points but holy damn. "It also happens with huwhite Christians" ain't no joke. This ring spans 17 countries, though the main suspects are Finns. They created and spread sadistic child porn, including sexual torture and even CHILD MURDER. The children were all young boys and were drugged with meth. The imagery included Satanic and Nazi symboism. The main guy was the designated dealer of a famous Finnish singer who's recently been on the news due to his obsessive use of meth.

    Dear Lord. WTF is going on with my country?

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    Can we add priests in this? Or not?

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    "“The findings corroborate the assumption that, instead of the number of abuse cases, the detection of such cases has increased in recent years as a result of improved official controls and higher risk of getting caught,” the authors of the study concluded.Aleksi Teivainen – HT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    "“The findings corroborate the assumption that, instead of the number of abuse cases, the detection of such cases has increased in recent years as a result of improved official controls and higher risk of getting caught,” the authors of the study concluded.Aleksi Teivainen – HT"
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    This is the same reason why I said, in a gun debate thread, that you can't compare old data sets to new data sets. Data from 1970 on gun violence isn't directly comparable to 2018 data, even if it's done by the same agency, the FBI. Too many things have changed. In this case , it's certainly a good thing that detection has improved. At the same time, I'm perfectly happy to be dismissive of such conclusions. I'm not a data scientist, but if there's a flaw with the study's methodology... by all means, point it out. Even if the actual amount of crime has increased, can it really be attributed to people's religion or cultural upbringing? Is it possible that criminal behavior is influenced far more by poverty?

    Then come the simple questions. Take this sentence in the article,

    "A citizens’ initiative to withdraw asylum from people convicted of a sex crime has doubled its signatures in just a few days and reached 25,000 on Sunday - half the total needed to force parliament to consider the issue."

    I don't really see anything controversial with that. Or am I to believe that people should tolerate not simply rapists, but foreign and non-citizen rapists at that?

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    Oh Good. Another race baiting thread. Just what the forum needs, further opportunity for our far-right posters to spout more bigoted nonsense.

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    "“The findings corroborate the assumption that, instead of the number of abuse cases, the detection of such cases has increased in recent years as a result of improved official controls and higher risk of getting caught,” the authors of the study concluded.Aleksi Teivainen – HT"
    @sukiyama

    Yes, this is why I mentioned that while crimes are being better reported, the police also say that they are having an increase in new kinds of sexual assault.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ce-report.html
    “This phenomenon is new in Finnish sexual crime history,” Ilkka Koskimaki, the deputy chief of police in Helsinki, told the Telegraph. ”We have never before had this kind of sexual harrassment happening at New Year’s Eve.”

    .....

    Mr Koskimaki said that sexual assults in parks and on the streets had been unknown in Finland before a record 32,000 asylum seekers arrived in 2015, making the 14 cases last year “big news in the city”.
    http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/...2017-2018.html
    “There have been no changes in the prevalence of sex crimes between 2013 and 2017. [The share] has fluctuated between one and two per cent, based on what people have reported in the crime victim surveys,” Petri Danielsson, an expert at the Institute of Criminology and Legal Policy of the University of Helsinki, said to STT.
    These cases have caused far-right vigilante thugs such as “Soldiers of Odin” to “patrol” their local towns and cities. While reported crime has increased, it’s unclear why. Authorities have simultaneously stated that while the 7.5% was due to crime being better reported, we have police chiefs stating that the kind of mass or gang rape now experienced is ‘new’ in Finland.
    For example, they recently changes the law after a court ruled an asylum seeker having sex with a 10 year old wasn’t rape.
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    Nope. There is nothing to suggest dramatically that his heart is giving out. His heart attack is a testament to how well he can recover from something like that.

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    [QUOTE=Aexodus;15767549
    For example, they recently changes the law after a court ruled an asylum seeker having sex with a 10 year old wasn’t rape.[/QUOTE]

    Bother to provide sources?

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