Will there be a REMASTERED version of RoTK?

**R.P. Gryphus** · December 08, 2021, 12:18 PM

We all dreamed of a day where we could mod every aspect of M2TW, and that day has arrived. Kinda. With the last update for Rome Total War Remastered, you can add as much faction, settlement, religion and units as you want. The graphic looks pretty good and from what I've heard, there isn't any Total War to date that is easier to mod (including scripting and mission and all that). So with that in mind I was curious if there was any thought to remaster this great mod (the greatest in my opinion)?

(link if the vid do not work : https://youtu.be/BbRxlqofK2E)

**Seether** · December 09, 2021, 06:17 PM

I actually mentioned the newest Rome Remastered patch to Gig the other day and a comment to the effect of "porting would be a nightmare" came up during our discussion. Now, it's just speculation that porting a Medieval 2 mod to the Remastered would be a nightmare, but as of right now there aren't any plans by either of us to port over RoTK. That could change, of course, once Medieval 2 Remastered is released and gets the same modding capabilities as Rome Remastered (which may be Day 1 or 6 months after release). We just don't have a definitive position on it and will have to wait until the game actually releases.

**Morrowgan** · December 09, 2021, 06:46 PM

It's nice to hear that you'd actually consider doing that in case of a Medieval 2 remaster!

**R.P. Gryphus** · December 09, 2021, 09:26 PM

Also you seem to suggest a Medieval 2 remastered is imminent. Maybe I am more pessimist than you are.

I doubt we'll ever see that remastered version, but I am confident that one day we will have a Medieval 3. I also believe one of the reason they did Rome remastered is because they are pretty much done with this time period, with Rome, Rome 2, Attila, and the last Rome remastered.

**Seether** · December 10, 2021, 12:05 AM

No, I don't think it's imminent. But, for all we know, they could be working on it as we speak. Or not. Have no idea. After all, the announcement of Rome Remastered came out of thin air.

The problem with porting a Medieval II Kingdoms mod back to Rome (even the remastered) is compatibility. Textures, models, campaign and battle maps, many aspects of scripting, and small list of other things are not quite the same and, in a few cases, totally incompatible. It's much easier to port Rome > Medieval II and add/improve stuff, then port the opposite way and then have to take away stuff/downgrade/hammer out incompatibilities.

**Gigantus** · December 11, 2021, 06:22 AM

Just an old man's reminiscence: RotK was originally ported from RTW to M2TW - the way I did it initially was to only use the stuff in the 'world' directory and add religion to descr_regions, 'scrub' descr_strat and plop it into my trusty Bare Geomod. And then adding back all the units painstakingly (CAS to MESH, modelDB entries etc) to get the original EDB working. From the initial map teaser back in 2012 (with RTW UI, no battle models) to the first full release was a fairly long road....

So yeah - porting a full mod backward is an even greater nightmare as Seether alludes to, certainly where time is involved. And most of it is in the battle models. Scripting, which I think is one of the major draw points of RotK would need a total do-over because a good number of script commands simply don't exist, like the very simple yes\no event message (Do you want assassins?). If M2TW gets remastered and I am still the master of my faculties then I could be enticed to give it a shot.
An RorK back to RTW remastered would basically a total redo, not a porting, as even the map has a different approach now afaik.