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  1. #41

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh Mór Ó Néill View Post
    Is it just me, or are the thureophoroi/machairaphoroi a bit... naked?

    I mean, I get that they're not meant to be super-heavy infantry á la the thorakitai, but surely there should be more lithenorax-wearing troops within the unit? The majority of them are only armoured with a helmet and shield, which seems excessively light, given that they're meant to be suited to be line infantry?

    Unless I'm completely misinterpreting their intended purpose here?
    I think they are meant to be mobile troops, to cover the flanks of the actual line troops. In this case it was usually the phalanx that the diadochi used as their main battle line.

    Look like actual line infantry (without been super heavy either) like the hoplitai have 7 armour and thats translates to all models having at least linothorax. So I guess the 4 from this two units does for a mix where some units have it and others not.

    Thing is that the superior defense skill makes those lighter units be able to pair up agaisnt this kind of infantry (exactly the same total defence and simialr attack values too), just that they are more vulnerable to any non direct confrontation like missile fire or been flanked/charged. But the trade off is the precursor javelins and the extra mobility and hardiness (and in case of the machairaphoroi they even have ap which can give them the edge when engaging untis like the hoplitai that rely more on the armor).


    I actually have a doubt now that arises. Do sword bearing units have any difference with spear bearing ones aside of the strict stats of the weapon we can see? I always had the impression in practice they dont work the same.

    We will either find a way, or make one.



  2. #42

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    The attack animation plays a good part in a unit's ability to deal damage.
    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

    Rad, 2016.

  3. #43

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    Is there a historical basis to give the light Numidian units (cavalry/archers/javelin skirmishers) an armor upgrade?
    Nothing fancy, just a few helmets or so. Maybe freshen up their clothes while at it.
    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

    Rad, 2016.

  4. #44

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    Quote Originally Posted by Rad View Post
    Is there a historical basis to give the light Numidian units (cavalry/archers/javelin skirmishers) an armor upgrade?
    Nothing fancy, just a few helmets or so. Maybe freshen up their clothes while at it.
    I agree with you, I think the hard thing for the team is to figure out what kind of "equipment" upgrade you can give to justify the fixed +2,5 armor while passing the "Rad's Quality Assurance Visual Test"!

    Would love to see those archers with better helmets!
    Last edited by Raiuga; April 20, 2019 at 05:56 AM. Reason: Banter

  5. #45

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    Well, the Galatian raiders got an armor upgrade. Visually, they got Greek clothing and Greek style helmets, but the overall number of helmets in the unit increased only marginally - from 2 to 3, or from 3 to 4.

    Edit: just took a look at the Galatian raiders. The overall number of helmets stayed the same after the armor upgrade. That's odd.

    Better example: Libyan skirmishers - they get an armor upgrade with 3 new new helmets.

    Something similar could be done here, if the historians agree.
    Last edited by Rad; April 20, 2019 at 06:11 AM.
    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

    Rad, 2016.

  6. #46

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    Another good catch from our fellow forum members.

    Illyrian elite slinger axemen (that's a mouthful)

    Helmet too bright in one angle, too dark in another.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

    Rad, 2016.

  7. #47

    Default Re: Rad looks at things - a thread for visual improvements

    These very dead horse bois came at me from the area marked in red. My guess is that that was not intended.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

    Rad, 2016.

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