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    Finished the celtic roster, credits to Lanjane & & Suppanut!


    Old first post:
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    The beginnings of what will become a Sassanid levy spearman.


    Stay tuned for more previews and progress!
    Last edited by 20ninescene; May 23, 2019 at 04:53 AM.
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    Very nice!

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    Thanks for the compliments, people like you keep me going! Bit by bit I'm making progress!

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    Udate #2

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    Remember this new hoplite animation I made for my Alex mod? It will be adjusted and recycled for shield walls and schiltron capable units!
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    We're also working on new animations for hoplites:

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    Cool!

    By the way, what's the timeframe of the mod?

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    363AD to 632AD
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    Texture for the clothing is out of date, IMHO. This wold be more suitable for the Achaemenid era.
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    I'm not sure why you would want to redo all of your skins when you could use the ones already made by the team. It would speed things up somewhat.

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    True that but this unit is remade to fit a special animation, it will use both over- and underhand thrust, and I had to take the proportions and angle of the shield into consideration as well as the spear. I took the base of my body mesh from an EB archer and stripped it from all attributes so that did not take any extra work. The skin is from the vanilla eastern spearman with a custom head and shield.

    Regarding IB units: half are good but many have a low-res or weird look, even though they are higher detailed than vanilla.

    If someone would take care of units in my mod that would be great!

    Otherwise I'll do the following:
    Keep vanilla style skins for the first release,
    If a unit is really bad or unrealistic I'll use the ones from a vanilla style Russian BI mod (forgot the name).
    If this mod doesn't offer a good alternative I make my own model + skin.

    Also if someone knows how to work with EDU-matic that would be a great help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20ninescene View Post
    Regarding IB units: half are good but many have a low-res or weird look, even though they are higher detailed than vanilla.
    If you knew ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gäiten View Post
    If you knew ...
    I second that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gäiten View Post
    If you knew ...
    Quote Originally Posted by julianus heraclius View Post
    I second that.
    They speak in riddles, they offer us mysteries instead of answers,
    they suggest possibilities but don't give us other than ephemeral certainties,
    they push us to cross with wavering step oceans of doubts,
    veiling abysmal depths populated by dark enigmas,
    enveloped in the tenebrae of the arcane Realm of the Possible,
    where our frightening journey is illuminated only by the feeble and ghostly light of Hope,
    .. and someone still does not understand why following mod development is better than playing it!

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    I know "naaathing"...

    But I really like the unit, can't wait to see some more!

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    For a better idea of persian clothing patterns at this time look at the Trousers on the Bawit Mosaics:

    https://i.imgur.com/vYSlLtZ.jpg

    Three pearl motifs and palm frond motifs. Also, loose saravara with a stripe around the hem, or a stripe running up the front of the trouser.

    The Tunics aren't relevant, that's possibly a Syriac, Thracian Roman, Gothic, or Steppe Iranic fashion. Hard to say. The Persomanikia are Iranic or Sassanian though.
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    @Magister Militum Flavius Aetius
    Thanks for the advice!

    Regarding my critique on IB's units:
    I have a quite high standard when it comes to units tho, I can't stand any glitches or weird looking faces. To name another mod, RSII units for example have them. Also some Sassanid units look like if they have been coloured with colour pens. Back in the day when everyone used 1280x1024 monitors it wasn't that big of a deal but nowadays nearly everyone has HD or 4k monitors and you see all the little bugs

    Also many IB units, especially spearmen and cavalry have clipped unit info images.

    Perhaps it's just me and there is a bug in my genes called perfectionism XD
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    I understand your critique.
    However, what I meant with "If you knew ..." is that you can not know the actual units because the actual mods are still WiP and besides the developers you can not know the quality.

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    Oh now I get it... perhaps I should wait with doing units before those get released then
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    IB was my first real look into a more historically accurate late Roman army. Today, knowing what I know, a lot of its units don't hold up because of minor details that only people like me will ever point out. But it's still way better than Attila Total War, lol.

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    I wasn't even mentioning the accuracy issues with IB units as I wasn't aware of them

    However if someone could help me to fix the graphical issues, and perhaps the accuracy issues as well, that would be great!

    I could fix the graphical issues myself but it would take ages and I will never be able to fix the campaign map.
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