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    “A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.” – U.S. Declaration Of Independence

    I’m a yankee and quite proud of the American Revolution and the way it turned out, however in the case of King George III, I do believe he is deserving of revisionist history.



    King George III of course is remembered in American history as a tyrant and an enemy of the people. Indeed, the Declaration of Independence specifically names him as the main antagonist to the progressive ideas of the Founding Fathers along with freedom and democracy. Beyond American bias however, King George III is mostly remembered as a mediocre King who lost the American colonies and went mad.

    A much closer examination of the record though shows that King George III is worthy of some redemption, including praise for his ability and accomplishments.

    Some basic considerations before moving forward:

    --King George III was Britain’s longest reigning king – ruling for nearly 60 years.
    --George III presided over Britain’s agricultural revolution and industrial revolution.
    --George III presided over and won the world’s first global war – The Seven Years War (1754-1763).
    --George III never had a record of scandal -with finances or mistresses- and made efforts to separate himself from the politics and legacies of Hanover.
    --George III spoke English as his first language and was the first King of the United Kingdom (assenting to the Acts of Union in 1801).
    --George III helped secure the ascension of his heirs over the long term by reserving titles for family members, and also indirectly through the purchase of Buckingham house.
    --Opposed French imperialism, and of course, the rise of Napoleon.
    --Bankrolled successive wars with France and helped pay government debts (credit shared with ministers).
    --Was a supporter of the arts and sciences and helped established royal observatories and national libraries.
    --Assented to the end of the Slave Trade in 1807
    --Defended Britain from threat of invasion (greatest accomplishment in my view).
    --Ultimately recognized America’s Independence.

    Finally -for a contemporary opinion-, when asked by a group of school children which monarch he respected the most, The Prince of Whales mentioned George III, saying he was a "good king" who was often "misunderstood."
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...d-monarch.html


    Was George III a Tyrant (from the American Perspective)?

    I’m going to argue no. While the argument (and justification) for America’s independence has always been “no taxes without representation,” the counterargument has always been Parliament’s right to collect taxes – which the American colonists were unduly evading. Though the truth is somewhere in the middle, there is not enough evidence to convict George III for tyranny or ruling arbitrarily. In fact, the record for creating and instigating unfair taxes -if nothing else- shows that Parliament should be the main focus of the Declaration of Independence, and not the King himself, who in his assent to unpopular tax policies, only sought to replenish the government’s treasury from war and defend Parliament’s right to collect taxes and create laws. These acts of course are not consistent with a dictatorial ruler who was not bound by a constitution or had ignored the advice of his legislature.

    The King also had good reasons for many of his prerogatives; including mercantilism which prevented oversees trade with Britain’s enemies; and restricting settlement west of the Application Mountains, which prevented conflict with Native Americans. His assent to the removal of all colonial taxes -except for tea- also shows he was not inflexible, whereas retaliation for the Boston Tea Party could be justified as an appropriate response to a criminal act.

    All of this is not to say however that George III did not badly mismanage the American crisis or doom Britain in the Revolution. Instances of his mismanagement include the quartering of British soldiers, alliances with Native Americans, use of Hessian mercenaries, assent to the Coercive Acts (aka Intolerable Acts), blockade of Boston harbor, removal of charters and colonial appointed legislatures, denying trial by jury, and refusal to read the Olive Branch Petition. The double standard and lasting impression of these coercive measures of course (especially the last one), was that the King had refused to treat his American subjects with the same freedoms and rights that were guaranteed to all Englishmen – which was a logical argument to make, and even if not completely true, gave enough political clout and reason for the colonies to secede from Great Britain.

    It obviously did not help the King much either to proclaim the American colonies in a state of rebellion prior to the Declaration of Independence and when much of the population was still loyal to Great Britain (though the counter argument was that the colonists had fought the British Army and had planned to invade Canada). If the proper strategy then for preventing American Independence was winning hearts and minds and legitimating their concerns by granting them a seat at Parliament, then George III failed miserably and deserves the results for the American Revolution.

    However, in retrospect it is perhaps appropriate to read the King’s response to the Declaration of Independence, in which he denies ever being an enemy of the people. Placing blame instead on the Founding Fathers.

    "My Lords and Gentlemen: "In this arduous contest, I can have no other object but to promote the true interests of all my subjects. No people ever enjoyed more happiness, or lived under a milder Government, than those now revolted Provinces. The improvements in every art of which they boast, declare it; their numbers, their wealth, their strength by sea and land, which they think sufficient to enable them to make head against the whole power of the mother country, are irrefragable proofs of it. My desire is to restore to them the blessings of law and liberty, equally enjoyed by every British subject, which they have fatally and desperately exchanged for all the calamities of war, and the arbitrary tyranny of their chiefs."

    https://concurringopinions.com/archi...ependence.html
    In all, it could be argued then that the American War of Independence was less of a war against tyranny and oppression then it was in a clear disagreement between systems of government. The American colonies had long wanted cultural separation from Great Britain and had believed independence was the best way to secure their interests and prosperity.

    They had after all, immigrated from their mother country in search of a better life, new freedoms, and wealth.

    King George’s character was thus not what made him unfit to rule a free people, what made him truly unfit -in the final analysis- was that a king could not govern a people who were determined to show that they could govern themselves.
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    In all, it could be argued then that the American War of Independence was less of a war against tyranny and oppression then it was in a clear disagreement between systems of government. The American colonies had long wanted cultural separation from Great Britain and had believed independence was the best way to secure their interests and prosperity.
    Or perhaps without the french about enough of the local elites kinda decided they could run the show with out help from across the Atlantic.

    They had after all, immigrated from their mother country in search of a better life, new freedoms, and wealth.
    Excepting certain notable minorities. which leads to

    Assented to the end of the Slave Trade in 1807
    Good phrasing in that. I have serious doubts that the trade would have ended if the colonies had not split and reconciled to Britain with some for of representation.

    Anyways another in a series of good posts.
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

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    Great topic, my knowledge of the American revolt is slim, and most of what I know about George III comes from my Irish constitutional history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Cheney. View Post
    They had after all, immigrated from their mother country in search of a better life, new freedoms, and wealth.
    The 13 colonies were chiefly private grants for wealthy Britons (mostly Englishmen) to exploit. British colonialism begins in Ireland and a surprising (well to me when I first read about it) number of early colonial leaders are either Irish or (more commonly) Englishmen who tried their hand at Irish exploitation and took it to the New World.

    I think the most common "type" among the colonial elite were enterprising businessmen (eg plantation owners, but also mercantile entrepreneurs/pirates/slave traders ie men interested in breaking new soil for making money) interested in small government in their pockets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Cheney. View Post
    King George’s character was thus not what made him unfit to rule a free people, what made him truly unfit -in the final analysis- was that a king could not govern a people who were determined to show that they could govern themselves.
    While George III experienced periods of mental illness he was also a strongly interventionist monarch. He worked up the Tories (formerly seen as adherents of the Stuarts) into a "Kings Party" very loyal to Hanover and the protestant ascendancy 9a major shift in UK politics), rationalised the royal estates into a civil list annuity paid by Parliament and intervened more directly in politics and policy than continental born rent-a-kings of his own dynasty (George I and II) and the previous one (William III and Mary II) had dared too. Not since Charles I had a monarch had such a clear direction over policy and party, although George III was not as despotic as "Old Rowley" or his idol Louis XIV.

    His energy (interrupted by periods of insanity) was matched by clear principles: as mentioned he agreed to the abolition of slavery, and blocked Catholic emancipation on religious principle. This last was as serious in is own way as his tampering with colonial affairs. The Irish Parliament agreed to Union with Britain in 1800, dark days as Napoleon loomed over Europe.

    The pragmatic Tory leader Pitt (a very great statesman) promised Catholic emancipation as the price (as well as the usual welter of personal bribes such as accompanied the Scottish Union with England in 1707). George III recovered briefly to refuse assent and the chance to gather Irish Catholics to the bosom of the Empire (as the Scots were so loyally bound) was lost. Ireland came to win emancipation on is own terms 25 years later and slowly, angrily ripped much of itself from Great Britain over a century of terrorism and communal violence.

    George III tended to use influenced rather than prerogative, but his hand was still seen as heavy in Britain and came to be opposed by the party that installed his ancestors, the Whigs. They were the party of capital and trade (as opposed to the landed agricultural Tories), and were the party with stronger links to their colonies. The cry of "tyrant!" was raised in England before it was in the Americas IIRC. Principled and energetic but not pragmatic, he insisted on moral rectitude at home, offending his son and heir, his brothers, and many of his own supporters as well as the more liberal Whigs.

    The case of the Boston Tea Party supports this IIRC. I forget the exact details but think i was an attempt to lower the cost by simplifying the levy (also placing the profits in the crown's hands) and the actual riot was black marketers who wanted the official price to remain high so their shoddy illegal imports remained competitive, is that right? It was pure George III, well meant but managing to offend influential people and gave the impression of heavy handed tyranny when it was intended to be reasonable and moral (in a narrowly defined way) government.

    My slim knowledge of US affairs is that the colonies were allowed to grow largely on their own terms, and the Whigs and their mercantile allies had a largely free hand, while enjoying protection from the mother country as increasingly global wars rolled around.
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