problem with a model

[Crociato78]

Hi!


I have a problem with the models of some units.


Maybe it's when I convert files from MSH to MS3D.


I use the program "Mesh_2_Ms3d_beta_1_8" and "MilkShape 3D 1.8.5".


In game shows me the model similar to this one of the link: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...rd-texture-bug


Can you help me?


I added a flag (new sashimono) and deleted a flag (old sashimono), I have not made any other changes.

I corrected some coordinates in the "Texture Coordinate Editor", the new flag (new sashimono, a group taken from the same model).

[Gigantus]

That's a messed up bone assignment (rigging). Maybe try GOAT to convert? Don't forget the bugfix.

[Crociato78]

I solved!


I had to delete only the selected groups in Edit (Edit-Delete Selection).


You do not have to delete the group under the group list (Groups-Delete), which causes bugs in game.

[Gigantus]

Thanks for coming back with the solution.

[Crociato78]

You can help me?


What's wrong with the model?

[Gigantus]

'Jesus Syndrom' - model is not rigged properly, eg all, or parts, of the model is not attached to the skeleton.

[Crociato78]

Is there a guide to solve my problem?

[Gigantus]

Haven't got one available right now - but it is basic 'rigging'. Check this, or any of this.

[Vladyvid]

One of the common reasons for that jesus pose can be a messed up comment, as a result of files merge or conversion. Easy to check and fix.

[Crociato78]

Hi!


In Milkshape 1.8.4 I miss the comment of "Edit Comment: Model", maybe that's why there's the problem of 'Jesus Syndrom'.


Can you tell me how can I find the right comment?

[Crociato78]

Hi!


In Milkshape 1.8.4 I miss the comment of "Edit Comment: Model", maybe that's why there's the problem of 'Jesus Syndrom'.


Can you tell me how can I find the right comment?


If I add a comment from another unit, it no longer has the problem of the "Jesus Syndrom", but the body is invisible (except for the helmet, the spear, the shield and the belt).

[AnthoniusII]

Jesus syndrom comes when one or more groups are not assigned to a skeleton bone.
Also avoid "merging" milkshape parts/models with milkshape but instead use GOM tool.
When you merge parts with milkshape it carries all material groups with them creating a multi material line that causes CTDs.
Invisible unit has to do with the model entry in your Export_descr_Unit or EDU. You select the unit but the game engine can not find the model you have writen in bmdb.file.
An example:
In Export_describe_Unit we have this:

type Tagma Ton Teichon
dictionary Tagma_Ton_Teichon
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
accent Mediterranean
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Teichon, 48, 0, 0.8
officer roman_captain
officer Teichon_B
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, extreme_range, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 8, 1, eastern_arrow, 190, 36, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 8, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 20, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 11, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 3, -1, 1, 0
stat_mental 13, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 900, 325, 65, 50, 220, 4, 50
armour_ug_levels 0, 1
armour_ug_models Teichon, Teichon_upg1
ownership byzantium
era 0 byzantium
era 1 byzantium
era 2 byzantium

In bmdb we have this:

7 Teichon
1 1
54 unit_models/_Units/byzantine/teichon/Teichon_lod0.mesh 6400
1
9 byzantium
61 unit_models/_Units/byzantine/teichon/textures/teichon.texture
68 unit_models/_Units/byzantine/teichon/textures/teichon_normal.texture
47 unit_sprites/slave_Southern_Peasants_sprite.spr
1
9 byzantium
46 unit_models/AttachmentSets/imperialatt.texture
51 unit_models/AttachmentSets/imperialatt_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
27 MTW2_Fast_Longbowman_String 18 MTW2_Fast_Knifeman
1
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
1
18 MTW2_Knife_Primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Nottice that unit's name is Tagma ton Teichon.
But the model that the game loads when we chose that unit is: Teichon [in soldier entry and in armor upgrade ones].

[Crociato78]

Thank you!

The "Edit Comment: Model" I leave it without comment?

[Vladyvid]

For the model comment i would use this:

0.484048
0.390661
0.103769
1.71158
/