CTD's have definitely to do with Steam

**Leon Katakalon** · February 01, 2019, 03:00 PM

Hello to every player of ACW 3.6.2!

I have managed to find that the problem of CTD's in ACW 3.6.2 has definitely to do with Steam. I received constantly CTD's while attempting to play campaign\battles in ACW 3.6.2 version. Then trying to play La Montee de'la Empire 4.2 on NTW I received exactly the same CTD's, despite the fact that I previously never had CTD's in LME 4.2. Then I restarted the PC and played LME on NTW normally and then, when I tried to play ACW, and it run normally without CTD's. Does anyone has a hintwhat is happening with Steam?

**Aussie-tosser** · February 04, 2019, 06:17 AM

As in by normally, you mean without steam running at the same time? how far into the campaign have you got?

**Leon Katakalon** · February 04, 2019, 09:46 AM

I managed to complete a campaign on VH\H level with the CSA without having any kind of loading CTD's, as long as I firstly played LME 4.2 at least for a few minutes (!). The CTD's regarding cannon firing and massive battles unfortunately persist, but the aforementioned trial indeed has helped me to complete a campaign and play the majority of battles without a problem.

**Aussie-tosser** · February 06, 2019, 10:09 AM

i'll try to replicate it in the next couple of days, do you get the same effect from just playing napoleon without mod?

**Leon Katakalon** · February 08, 2019, 04:10 PM

To be honest I have not tried it. Ever since I download a mod, the vanillas are a thing of the past for me.

**SR-71** · May 02, 2019, 02:17 PM

Hi! I don't understand how did you maged to play without CTDs... Only restarting? Closing Steam (but you need it to play!)? How?
Thanks on advance

**Tentato** · May 11, 2019, 05:54 PM

I'm far more certain that the battle CTDs might have something to do with the cavalry flags. You see the version stated to be the most stable was 3.4 which didn't have those yet. At some point somebody requested cavalry standards and the devs said it didn't work back then as it caused crashes. But later somehow they were able to add them. I'm not quite sure which version that was. But I'm sure those crashes started appearing when the cavalry flags came around. I recall my friend had a monstrously huge battle (30k soldiers) without a crash but if I remember correctly there was no cavalry in that battle. So I've already messaged Trig and asked him if he is able to create a version without the flags, we will see if he responds. Would be great if more of us could test it so we can have a clearer result.

**Leonardo** · May 12, 2019, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tentato

I'm far more certain that the battle CTDs might have something to do with the cavalry flags. You see the version stated to be the most stable was 3.4 which didn't have those yet. At some point somebody requested cavalry standards and the devs said it didn't work back then as it caused crashes. But later somehow they were able to add them. I'm not quite sure which version that was. But I'm sure those crashes started appearing when the cavalry flags came around. I recall my friend had a monstrously huge battle (30k soldiers) without a crash but if I remember correctly there was no cavalry in that battle. So I've already messaged Trig and asked him if he is able to create a version without the flags, we will see if he responds. Would be great if more of us could test it so we can have a clearer result.

The cavalry flags might be the culprit that's causing a CTD, which reminds me about the cavalry in ETW that has an animation issue.

That should be easy to test if the cavalry flags is causing a CTD or not. Just use the version that is crashing and start a custom battle with cavalry then start another custom battle without cavalry.

Should the battle with cavalry crash at the same time the other battle without cavalry doesn't crash then it's likely the cavalry flags is causing a CTD.

**Tentato** · May 13, 2019, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Leonardo

The cavalry flags might be the culprit that's causing a CTD, which reminds me about the cavalry in ETW that has an animation issue.

That should be easy to test if the cavalry flags is causing a CTD or not. Just use the version that is crashing and start a custom battle with cavalry then start another custom battle without cavalry.

Should the battle with cavalry crash at the same time the other battle without cavalry doesn't crash then it's likely the cavalry flags is causing a CTD.

Good idea, I haven't thought of that. I'm going to install 3.6.2 again and post the results.

**pappagoat** · July 22, 2020, 04:23 PM

I think I've had crashed without cavalry present. Also the cavalry flags is a port over from IS, don't think they've had crash issues.

Worth exploring though.