At least 30% of Jordanians are Bedouin, native to the area and most live in cities. 50% of the population is made-up of Palestinians living in city-sized refugee camps. That's a fact and you can't really debate that without data.
Likud (Conservative)
Jewish Home (Right-Wing)
Yesh Atid (Centrism)
Labour (Center-Left)
New Right (right-wing)
Joint Union (Israeli Arab)
Kulanu (Center)
Shas (Sephardic-Mizrahi Orthodoxy)
United Torah Judaism (Ashkenazi Orthodoxy)
Yachad (Ultra-Orthodoxy)
Hatnuah (Liberalism)
Ta'al (Arab Nationalism)
Israel Resilience Party (Center-Right)
Metetz (Green-Left)
Yisrael Beiteinu (Zionism)
Gesher (Right-Wing)
Zehut (Libertarianism)
Other (Please, specify)
Well, first of all you need data to back up that fact before I can even begun to dispute it.
I guess wikipedia uses the wrong definition. Doesn't change the fact that over half of the population is palestinian.
But before Israel’s creation what we call Jordan was part of Palestine, along with what we now call Israel. It’s 99% Arab Muslim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan
For example Jordan used to even claim the west bank, changing its name for it.In 1946, Jordan became an independent state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan, but was renamed in 1949 to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan after the country captured the West Bank during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and annexed it until it was lost to Israel in 1967. Jordan renounced its claim to the territory in 1988, and became one of two Arab states to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1994.[10]
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As the polling samples were released a drama unfolded, with both sides declaring a victory. Indeed, according to samples, Blue and white had somewhere in the vicinity of 37 seats, and the Likud had anywhere from 34 to 36.However after most of the votes have been counted, although soldier votes will only arrive in a few days and could yet bring some changes, these are the results:
Likud - 35 seats
Blue and white - 35 seats
Shas - 8 seats
United Torah Judaism - 8 seats
Labour - 6 seats
Hadash-Ta'al - 6 seats
Israel Beitenu - 5 seats
United right wing parties - 5 seats
Meretz - 4 seats
Kulanu - 4 seats
Balad-Ra'am - 4 seats
Once soldier votes are in Balad-Ra'am is very likely to not have enough votes to pass the threshold, New Right has a pretty good chance of passing the threshold, and Zehut has a small chance of doing so. Each one of those changes would strengthen the right wing block.
The resulting blocs are:
Right wing - 49 seats
Ultra orthodox - 16 seats
Left wing + Centrist - 45 seats
Arabs - 10 seats
This is a clear advantage for Netanyahu, making him the winner in all likelihood. Both ultra-orthodox parties as well as Kulanu and the United right wing parties all pledged support for Netanyahu after the results.
On a side note, I'd like to calm some people down, the Kahanists that were merged into the united right wing party did not make it in, as their representative was on their 8th seat, and they only got 5.
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I've seen quite a few people in the media referring to the number of seats taken by the ultra-orthodox parties as a surprise, as if they have no concept of demography. If a demographic group consistently has something like three to four times as many children as any other demographic group, they're bound to grow in political power each election (subject only somewhat to variations in voter turnout). The math isn't that hard.
So, our predicted Metetz landslide has failed to materialise in real life then...
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So how many seats did Zehut get and what coalition are they in.
Ha... OP misspelled it though. It's Meretz, not that it matters considering Israelis can't even make an R sound, but you'd think a guy with the name nhytgbvfeco2 would be a little more careful with how he hits the keyboard (apparently nhytgbvfeco and nhytgbvfeco1 were already taken).
EDIT: Negative, didn't get past the threshold.
Maybe all the efforts to depict Feiglin as menacing paid off:
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Labour only 6 seats? Oh boy. Isnt that the party that founded Israel? Anyway with all these gifts Trump gave to Netanyahu it was obvious he will win
I'm not, and you know that. The Rabbinate should have no control over religious sites of other religions. Jews are allowed to pray at Al-Buraq, isn't that enough? I mean, Israel already bulldozed Harat al-Maghariba and expelled its residents to construct that goddamned plaza.
It's not just that. It's that the voter turnout was 67.9% while amongst the ultra-orthodox it is close to 90%.
Meretz is a fringe party in Israeli politics, next time they might just not pass the voter threshold.
Quite depressingly (imo), none. It might change after soldier votes are counted, but it's very unlikely. Support for the party is mostly amongst young people who are exposed to social media, since the media went from completely ignoring them at the beginning, to spreading outright lies about them.
Whoah now, is this a roast?
It wasn't me who misseppelled it. The original thread had no poll, Abdulmecid kindly added one and accidentally wrote it wrong. And yes, nhytgbvfeco was taken on some site i was signing up for so i added the 2, FYI.
Yeah, passing control of the holiest site in Judaism to the Jews is truly absurd. The current situation, where Jews aren't allowed to pray on it, is perfectly reasonable. No reason to change a thing.
The lack of a free market will eventually collapse the economy of Israel, the welfare state can only feed so many unemployed ultra orthodox before all the money runs out. This is not a good result.
Left wing ideology is becoming increasingly unpopular in Israel. Every new generation leans more to the right than the last, a result of living under rocket fire and seeing every concession for peace answered with bloodshed.
Ehh, no? How is that enough? The western wall's only significance is that it was the wall around the temple.. which was on the mount. It is the mount itself that is holy, not the wall. It is a religious site for Judaism.
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Jews won't walk around on Mount itself so to not enter the area of the inner sanctuary unadvertised, so they only need access to the temple remaining boulders.
Al-Aqsa and the Dome are holy for Islam, giving the Chief Rabbinate control over it is a ridiculous prospect.
Lol, no. Almost all media in Israel is biased in favour of the left wing.
It's holiness in Islam is disputable, however the rabbinate would surely make it pretty clear what part they are or aren't allowed to walk on.
Nothing ridiculous about giving the holiest site in Judaism to a rabbinate. Other than that, btw, Zehut wants to strip pretty much all powers from the rabbinate.