Israel elections April 2019, September 2019, March 2020, March 2021.

[sumskilz]

You are crying about a rocket that wounded some people.

I'd say you're engaging in a bit of psychological projection if that's how you understood the conversation. Which might explain why you have trouble understanding why any Gazan attempting to damage or breach the defensive barrier is putting themself at risk.

[Ludicus]

1. Netanyahu + Gantz = The deal of the century?


...I don't think that I understand your question?

Gantz insist that they would never join a Netanyahu-led government...but I am not so sure about it. To survive, Netanyahu needs Gantz.Polls give new Gantz-Lapid faction meaningful lead over Netanyahu's ...



And let's keep in mind that there is a Gantz's Manual of Clinical Problems in Infectious Disease


OK, Just kidding...

[Papay]

Pointless to argue with people that celebrate the fact that Israel can break all international laws without consequences. For them any crime committed by Israel is not something to be ashamed of but something that makes them in fact proud.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Gantz insist that they would never join a Netanyahu-led government...but I am not so sure about it. To survive, Netanyahu needs Gantz.Polls give new Gantz-Lapid faction meaningful lead over Netanyahu's ...

Those polls are from over month ago. The right+utra-orthodox block has a clear lead according to all recent polls, even if Gantz's Blue and White gets the most seats. It just doesn't have a path to forming a coalition, unlike the Likud.

Pointless to argue with people that celebrate the fact that Israel can break all international laws without consequences. For them any crime committed by Israel is not something to be ashamed of but something that makes them in fact proud.

Good job addressing absolutely nothing that was said.

[Infidel144]

If i had constantly missiles fired at my country, i would demand open war with the aggressor. How is that an illegitimate position?

It's not. Unless you are a Jew.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

In another twist, today the party "Yachad" has announced that it is dropping out of the race. Their leader, Eli Yishai, has decided to announce his support for United Torah Judaism, of all parties.

[Yayattasa]

Netanyahu just said he'll annex the West Bank and keep control of land West of the Jordan, that a Palestinian State would endanger Israel, and that no settlement will be evacuated. Two states are deader that dead.

[Papay]

Netanyahu just said he'll annex the West Bank and keep control of land West of the Jordan, that a Palestinian State would endanger Israel, and that no settlement will be evacuated. Two states are deader that dead.

He is clearly a moderate. Moshe Feiglin has claimed that Israel must annex Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...125039342.html

Why not? Lets face it. This is the climate in Israel today. The more radical you are, the more votes you take

[nhytgbvfeco2]

He is clearly a moderate. Moshe Feiglin has claimed that Israel must annex Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...125039342.html

Why not? Lets face it. This is the climate in Israel today. The more radical you are, the more votes you take

Feiglin wants to provide the chance of getting citizenship however. That's not very radical. And he's not running on that platform anyway, he is running basically on just an economic platform.

[Aexodus]

One thing I don’t understand is why is Jordan not considered to be the Palestinian state.

[Papay]

Feiglin wants to provide the chance of getting citizenship however. That's not very radical. And he's not running on that platform anyway, he is running basically on just an economic platform.

Either way the possibility of peace is dead. Any logical voice that will try to convince voters about the possibility of making concessions to Palestinians in order to achieve permanent peace with the Arabs is considered treasonous. Arabs of course will not accept apartheid or ethnic cleansing or whatever Netanayahu has his mind about west bank. This means that US will continue to be forced to give huge amounts of money not only to Israel but also to regimes like the Egyptian dictatorship to supress its people and US will be forced to continue waging pointless wars for the shake of Israel in places like Syria.

[sumskilz]

Netanyahu just said he'll annex the West Bank

If only he were prime minister now, he might have already done so.

[Prodromos]

Either way the possibility of peace is dead.

I got news for you, Papay: it's always been dead. The bulk of Arabs and Muslims have zero interest in coexisting with a Jewish state.

One thing I don't get: people keep saying that Netanyahu will stay PM because his coalition is larger than Gantz, but if Gantz beats Netanyahu, what's to stop [some of] Netanyahu's allies from forming a coalition with Gantz instead?

[nhytgbvfeco2]

I got news for you, Papay: it's always been dead. The bulk of Arabs and Muslims have zero interest in coexisting with a Jewish state.

One thing I don't get: people keep saying that Netanyahu will stay PM because his coalition is larger than Gantz, but if Gantz beats Netanyahu, what's to stop [some of] Netanyahu's allies from forming a coalition with Gantz instead?

The 2 ultra-orthodox parties won't sit in a coalition with Yair Lapid. Yisrael Beitenu (if it passes the thershold), United Right-wing parties and New Right won't sit in a coalition with Meretz. The former means that it's impossible as Gantz already merged with Yair Lapid, the latter means that gaining one coalition member locks the door to gaining others, and thus making it incredibly difficult to reach 61 seats.

Either way the possibility of peace is dead. Any logical voice that will try to convince voters about the possibility of making concessions to Palestinians in order to achieve permanent peace with the Arabs is considered treasonous. Arabs of course will not accept apartheid or ethnic cleansing or whatever Netanayahu has his mind about west bank. This means that US will continue to be forced to give huge amounts of money not only to Israel but also to regimes like the Egyptian dictatorship to supress its people and US will be forced to continue waging pointless wars for the shake of Israel in places like Syria.

Literally all parties left of Netanyahu are talking about making concessions for peace. Netanyahu also talks about it, just not 3 days from an election. He'll get right back to it once the election is in the past.

[PointOfViewGun]

Just like we have warned that the recognition of annexation of the Golan Heights sets a dangerous precedent Israel is the first to utilize that:

Netanyahu vows to annex Jewish settlements in occupied West Bank

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has pledged to annex Jewish settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories if he wins his country’s election on Tuesday, a dramatic last-minute rallying call to his nationalist base.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

It's all talk. Netanyahu has been contradicting himself on the peace process for as long as I can remember.

[Yayattasa]

One thing I don’t understand is why is Jordan not considered to be the Palestinian state.

Jordan is a Kingdom of Bedouins. Palestinians are not Bedouins, they are Hadir, settled Arabs of Al-Sham, the Levant.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Jordan is a Kingdom of Bedouins. Palestinians are not Bedouins, they are Hadir, settled Arabs of Al-Sham, the Levant.

Jordan has a population of 380,000 Bedouins out of a population of over 10 million. That's 3.8% of the population.
Also, doesn't stop the palestinian authority from calling the Bedouins of Khan El-Ahmar palestinians.
Interestingly enough, the worlds largest Bedouin city is in Israel. (Rahat)
Falah is the term used for the settled Arabs in the region, btw, not Hadir.

[Yayattasa]

Jordan has a population of 380,000 Bedouins out of a population of over 10 million. That's 3.8% of the population.
Also, doesn't stop the palestinian authority from calling the Bedouins of Khan El-Ahmar palestinians.
Interestingly enough, the worlds largest Bedouin city is in Israel. (Rahat)
Falah is the term used for the settled Arabs in the region, btw, not Hadir.

They are not nomadic anymore, but they are ethnically Bedouin. In Arabic census Bedouin is the word for nomadic, that's the reason they have such a small number (see link).
Falah means another thing altogether, never saw it used in this context, in Israel, the Levant, or elsewhere.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

They are not nomadic anymore, but they are ethnically Bedouin. In Arabic census Bedouin is the word for nomadic, that's the reason they have such a small number (see link).
Falah means another thing altogether, never saw it used in this context, in Israel, the Levant, or elsewhere.

That's a vast simplification, and not particularly true. The Bedouins in Rahat are not nomadic anymore, but they still identify as Bedouins. It has a lot to do with identity and tribal affiliation.
Falah means farmer, and it is the term all my Arab friends use to differentiate themselves from Bedouins. It is the term used here.