[SUBMOD] Westeros Total War: Fire and Blood 2.3 (ESSOS ADDED!)

[PeaMan]

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I've never been much of a writer... Forgive me for what your about to read..

Along with the main campaign which is based on Aegon Targaryens conquest of westeros there will be 14 custom campaigns you'll be able to play which chronicle important periods of his family history, they are the following..


Campaign descriptions and Map previews -

Aegon's Conquest

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0 AC: At his seat on Dragonstone Aegon Targaryen prepares to conquer westeros alongside his sisters atop balerion the black dread, Vhaegar and Meraxes. Having a small army of only 1,600 men at arms, much smaller than the armies of the neighbouring Andal Kings Aegon relied upon his dragons to crush his enemys. While in the Riverlands Harren the Black completes construction of his mighty fortress Harrenhall believing himself secure behind his walls and in the south Stormking Argilac the Arrogant calls his banners before the storm arrives..

Aegon Targaryen -




Harren Hoare 'The Black' King of Isles and Rivers -




Torrhen Stark, The King of Winter -




Mern Gardener, The King of the Reach -

Faith Militant Uprising

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41 AC: After the death of Aegon the Conqueror and the ascension of his son Aenys to the Iron Throne, the High Septon rose in revolt against this abomination born of incest. Now, many years later, the sickly Aenys has died and his half-brother Maegor the Cruel sits on the Iron Throne and is intent on ending this uprising.

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Prince Aegon Targaryen 'The Uncrowned' -

The Rogue Prince

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106 AC: With ambitions of ruling his own Kingdom, Daemon Targaryen also known as 'The Rogue Prince' led an army of Westerosi to conquer The Stepstones. Corlys Velaryon 'The Sea Snake' supported his friend in his campaign and earning Daemon the fleet of House Velaryon to support his invasion. Atop Caraxes the 'Bloodwyrm' his enemies would bend or burn. Rumours are abroad that the Three Daughters have pledged to repel this invader and are amassing men and ships..

One thing is known for sure, Daemon will bring with him Fire and Blood.

Prince Daemon Targaryen 'The Rogue Prince' -

The Dance of Dragons

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The small council's decision to crown Aegon II Targaryen instead of his older half-sister Rhaenyra Targaryen has ignited the first Targaryen civil war. Consequently, the great game of diplomacy now begins as each Targaryen faction will require the support of multiple great houses for their cause to succeed. It will be left to each Lord to decide whether to support the Greens or the Blacks in the coming battles.


41 AC: After the death of Aegon the Conqueror and the ascension of his son Aenys to the Iron Throne, the High Septon rose in revolt against this abomination born of incest. Now, many years later, the sickly Aenys has died and his half-brother Maegor the Cruel sits on the Iron Throne and is intent on ending this uprising.

King Aegon II Targaryen 'The Usurper' -



Prince Daeron Targaryen -



Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen 'The Rightful Queen' -



Benjicot Blackwood 'Bloody Ben' -




Roderick Dustin 'Commander of the Winter-Wolves' -



Dalton Greyjoy 'The Red Kraken' -

Conquest of Dorne

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157 AC: When Prince Daeron the Young Dragon ascended the Iron Throne in 157 AL, he declared war on the independent Kingdom of Dorne to complete the legacy of his ancestor Aegon the Conqueror and unite all Seven Kingdoms under Targaryen rule. Daeron won the war quickly, a victory that he immortalised in his book Conquest of Dorne: 'The arms of House Martell display the sun and spear, the Dornishman's two favourite weapons, but of the two, the sun is the more deadly.' After the invasion, the Young Dragon left the Lord Paramount of the Reach to rule Dorne in his stead. The proud Dornishmen, although defeated, would neither submit to a Dragon nor a Tyrell. Conspiracies and revolts spread throughout Dorne like wildfire, culminating in the death of Lord Tyrell. His death led to rebellion throughout Dorne and in a fortnight all Daeron had achieved was undone.

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Lyonel Tyrell and Rickon Stark -

The First Blackfyre Rebellion

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King Aegon IV Targaryen had legitimised all of his bastards on his deathbed. His noble bastards were called the Great Bastards, the most notable of whom was Daemon Blackfyre, a great warrior and wielder of the Targaryen sword of kings, Blackfyre. In 184 Al, Aegon IV was succeeded by Daeron II.

After more than a decade of building tension, open warfare erupted in 195 AL. The immediate cause was Daemon Blackfyre's rage over Daeron betrothing his sister Daenarys to Maron Martell, Prince of Dorne. Daeron sent the Kingsguard to arrest him, but Daemon escaped with the aid of Ser Quentyn Ball, the master-at-arms of the Red Keep. Blackfyre mustered a sizeable army against Daeron and was joined by his half-brother Aegor "Bittersteel" Rivers, a fellow Great Bastard. Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers, another Great Bastard, remained loyal to the King. On the small council, Bloodraven advocated a hard line against the rebels, winning out over Prince Baelor's desire to pardon and so war erupted in westeros..

Daeron Targaryen and his kin -



Daemon Blackfyre 'The Black Dragon' -



Leo Tyrell 'Longthorn' -

Third Blackfyre Rebellion

219 AC: Haegon Blackfyre, fourth born son of Daemon Blackfyre, and Aegor Bittersteel launched an attack against Aerys Targaryen to try and claim the Iron Throne for the Blackfyres.


Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion

236 AC: Daemon Blackfyre, the Third of His Name, eldest son of Haegon Blackfyre, along with Aegor Bittersteel launched an attack against King Aegon Targaryen, the Fifth of His Name, by landing at Massey's Hook.


War of Ninepenny Kings

260 AC: The Band of Nine, a group of ambitious power seekers in Essos have conquered the Disputed Lands and the Stepstones. They set up Alequo Adarys the Silvertongue as ruler of Tyrosh. Now Maelys Blackfyre, the last of the Blackfyre Pretenders and commander of the Golden Company has convinced them to attack Westeros and claim the Iron Throne. However, King Aegon V Targaryen has received word of this scheme and plans to send an army to the Stepstones to face this threat before yet another Blackfyre invasion can devastate the realm.

War of the Usurper

After the abduction of Lyanna Stark by Rhaegar Targaryen and the mad king murdering both Rickard and Brandon Stark.. Robert and his friend Ned rebel against the mad king along with their foster father Jon Arryn with the Tully's joining the rebels side sealing the bond in marriage with Catelyn marrying Eddard and Lysa, Jon. Only the Lion is yet to declare sides though a Lannister must not be trusted..


Greyjoy's Rebellion

289 AC: Believing King Robert's rule insecure, Lord Balon Greyjoy of Pyke rises in rebellion against the Iron Throne. Crowned with a driftwood crown beneath Nagga's Ribs, Balon declares himself King of the Iron Islands, King of Salt and Rock, and seeks to restore the Ironborn's ancient traditions lost during Aegon's Conquest.


War of the Five Kings

With the death of Robert Baratheon and the execution of Eddard Stark the realm has erupted into civil war once again.. Robb Stark marches south with an army of northmen demanding the Lannisters pay for their crimes with the Tullys of Riverrun joining the young wolf while in the south Renly Baratheon declares himself King of Westeros and marries Margery Tyrell earning the support of the reach. In the east Stannis Baratheon was gathering sellswords and ships to the Island fortress with plans to claim what is his and to destroy the traitors.. When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die.


A Storm of Swords

299 AC: After Renly's death, Stannis took up a large army and smashed them against the walls of King's Landing. But the use of wildfire and tricks gave Tyrion Lannister, 'The Imp', the advantage. The realm sees a lot of changes.


A Feast for Crows

Balon Greyjoy, Robb Stark, Renly Baratheon. With three usurpers dead, and Stannis routed to the wall, the Lannisters hold on the crown appears certain. However, the alliance that holds the throne is tenuous, at best. With weakened armies, and ambition rising around them, war is soon to renew for the Lannisters. Dragon banners have been sighted off Shipbreaker Bay, and Dorne
is stirring. Margaery Tyrell and Cersei Lannister have been seized by the Faith Militant, and the King is but a boy. Lord Petry Baelish has the Vale under his shaky command, and the last known Stark daughter in his grasp. Throughout this all, the winds of winter blow from beyond the wall, and dead things march.

Euron Greyjoy sails on Oldtown, with the strength of the Iron Islands behind him. The supposed son of Rhaegar calls upon Mace Tyrells loyalty to Aerys, while Dorne prepares for war. With the death of both Tywin and Kevin Lannister, the westerlands are in disarray. Ser Jaime has gone missing in the Riverlands, leaving the Rock leaderless. With Tully uprisings, and war brewing in the south, the weakened Lannister armies are spread thin. A choice will soon need to be made to protect the crown, or abandon the capital and defend their home. When the supposed news of King Stannis' death reaches the wall, Queen Selyse offered herself and her only living child to R'hllor. Jon Snow, recently murdered in a mutiny, awoke instead. After the shock of the mutiny, and word from White Harbor of the Onion Knights return, Jon Snow marches an army of wildlings against the Boltons in his brothers name. However, Maege Mormont
carries a will that may shatter the shaky alliance between King Stannis and the newly returned House Stark.

The Winds of Winter

Cold winds are rising in the north and the dead are marching upon the wall. Jon snow has been named King in the north by the northern lords and prepares his people for the great war while in the riverlands the freys have been wiped out some say by the gods and Edmure Tully rallies the last of the riverlords to Riverrun. The south has much weakened by the war of the five kings has once again erupted into chaos with the landing of Daeneys Targaryen on the Isle of Dragonstone with lords great and small declaring their fealty to the Lannisters or Targaryens. Will the lords of westeros be able to set aside their petty wars and unite against the night king?

Previews -

Loading screens

(around half are previewed)
(Special thanks to Lifthrasir)

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Dragons (they fly when running) -

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Balerion 'The Black Dread' -



Vhaegar -



Meraxes -



Moondancer -



Tessarion 'The Blue Queen' -



Meleys 'The Red Queen' -



Caraxes 'The Blood Wyrm'-



Seasmoke -



Shrykos -



Syrax -



Tyraxes -



Vermax -



Dreamfyre -



Sunfyre 'The Golden' -



Arrax -



Drogon -



Viserion -



Rhaegel -

Character Strat Map Models -

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The Crownlands character strat models -

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The North character strat models (+ Bolton and Karstark for the Bolton faction) -

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The Riverlands character strat models -

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The Vale character strat models -

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The Stormlands character strat models -

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Dornish character strat models -

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The Westerlands character strat models -

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The Reach character strat models -

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The Iron Isles character strat models -

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Map Previews -

The Titan of Braavos -




Heart Tree -



Hero Models -

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Jon Snow

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Robb Stark

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Eddard Stark

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Brynden Tully "The Blackfish"

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Edmure Tully

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Davos Seaworth

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Roose Bolton

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Ramsay Snow/Bolton

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Renly Baratheon

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Tywin Lannister

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Kevan Lannister

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Jaime Lannister

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Tyrion Lannister

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Joffrey Lannister

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Tommen Lannister

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Sandor Clegane "The Hound"

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Gregor Clegane "The Mountain"

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Jorah Mormont

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Stannis Baratheon

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Euron Greyjoy

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Theon Greyjoy

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Asha/Yara Greyjoy

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Daenerys Targaryen

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Barristan Selmy

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Brienne of Tarth

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Mace Tyrell

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Loras Tyrell

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Oberyn Martell

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Bowstring Animation for all longbow units -



More to be added..

Features:


Version 1.3

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-New portraits
-New ancillaries
-New banner carriers for all house units
-Dozens of hero models
-Dragons added
-New factions
-5 provincial campaigns added
-New strat map models for each faction

Version 1.5 -

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- Smoothed the coasts somewhat..
- Some more new portraits
- Family trees added for the custom campaigns
- Changes made to dragons and their unit cards..
- Age of petty kings recruitment script added..
- Finished the family trees for all campaigns..
- New loading screens and main menu background.
- Unique voices for certain characters in both the main campaign and war of five kings. (Credits to Inarus as I expanded upon his work though credits for the script goes to Withwnar..)
- Added some missing unit pics in the description interface. (not finished yet)
- House Stark will now march south in both the war of the five kings and roberts rebellion.

Version 1.7 -

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- Fixed some bugs
-Polished the character traits in Aegons conquest, the dance of dragons and blackfyre rebellion. (Roberts rebellion and war of five kings still needs doing)
- Added House Bolton, Frey and the Wildlings
- Small changes to the map
- House member traits
- Reworked the music, 40 tracks in total
- New Artwork
- Added missing UI for custom battles
- Unique voice for Gendry.
- New ancillaries
- The undead will now invade westeros
- Weakened the undead (not sure if they weakened enough)
-A couple of scripts for house stark in the main campaign

Version 2.0 -

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- A new map
- Removed the vanilla religions and added 7 new ones (old gods, the seven, drowned god, valyrian (targaryen), rhllor, freefolk and others 'undead' )
- New custom campaign named 'A Feast for Crows'
- Custom battle maps for Kings landing, Highgarden and Moat Cailin
- Fixed the character strat models that was using reskinned vanilla.
- New character strat model for the nights watch
- 3 new units for Targaryen
- Goldcloak unit cards for Targaryen etc.
- Fixed the silver wildling units
- Finished the missing family trees and extended some.
- New portraits for some leaders for the custom campaign
- Added many nicknames
- 3 turns per year script with random winters lasting several turns.
- Fixed the custom battle water bug, all maps should now work.
- Strat map models for the capitals.

V2.1

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- Main campaign changed to Aegon's conquest
- Essos added
- 7 new factions (Slavers bay, Volantis, Three Daughters, Free Cities, Norvos, Qohor and Dothraki
- New dragon animations and models
- Changes to the dragons unit stats (some dragons are stronger than others)
- 10 new character strat models rigged by myself and Bantu-Chieftan (some may not be featured in this release)
- Show style Golden Company units
- Unit rosters for house dustin, glover and umber.
- New unit roster for the crownlands
- 7 new settlements for westeros (Skagos, Greywater Watch, Castamere, Stokeworth, Hayford, Brindlewood, Kingswood)
- Lords for the new settlements.
- New house buildings for the essos settlements (UI included)
- New ships and unit cards (credits to the WTW 1.0 team)
- Lordship ancillaries for the new settlements
- Religious buildings + building ui for the new relgions
- over 100 new names and surnames
- Fixed silver units (all I think, report any that are still silver)
- Fixed the bolton units with no textures
- Descriptions for the custom campaigns
- Changed the sigil on the arryn banner to that of the show
- Small improvement to all banners
- Fixed greyjoy banner.
- Changed unit sizes
- Conquest script for Aegons conquest (lords bend the knee when you take their holdings, crownlands only)
- The last storm script (give the stormlands to Aegon if Argilac dies, needs more scripts added)
- WO5K euron script (at turn 50 if playing as the greyjoys you can choose to pardon euron..)
- WO5K kingship event (declare yourself king if the conditions are met)
- UI changes
-Hotseats enabled

V2.1.2

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• Reworked the units completely with many new minor house units! (unit cards included)
  
• Unit card info for most of the units.
  
• New banner carriers for the new units
  
• New faction selection screen
  
• Map improvements.
  
• Some new portraits
  
• New UI for the rogue prince targaryen faction

and more! (can't remember exactly as I didn't take note of the changes)

Bugs Fixed -

• floating swords for hornwood, mormont, umber cav - Fixed
  
• messed up tully textures - Fixed
  
• cant recruit baratheon house units at storms end - Fixed
  
• cant recruit as gardener/durrandon - Fixed
  
• menu crash - Fixed
  
• frey crash when clicking on main campaign - Fixed
  
• frey cant recruit bracken - Fixed
  
• Bolton has stark bodyguard all campaigns - Fixed
  
• frey have tully BG - Fixed
  
• faction family members dying - Fixed
  
• Silver NW units - Fixed
  
• fix house dustin units to match dustin swordsmen - Fixed
  
• cant recruit ships as essos, gardener + durrandon - Fixed
  
• cant recruit ironborn raiders - Fixed
  
• house hoare cant recruit units - Fixed
  
• cant recruit tyrell knights - Fixed
  
• Winterfell and MC strat map model - Fixed
  
• norvos + qohor missing shield - Fixed
  
• Essos unit weapon textures Fixed
  
• Wooden Walls causing crash - Fixed (most likey)

V2.3

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• New menu layout
  
• Custom Campaigns added for Hotseats
  
• 23 new unique battle maps (Acorn Hall, Bloody Gate, Casterly Rock, Castle Black, Dragonstone, Duskendale, Gates of the Moon, Goldengrove, Gulltown, Harrenhall, Highgarden, Longbow Hall, Oldtown, Riverrun, Sharp Point, Starfall, Storms End, The Arbor, The Dreadfort, The Twins Let and Right, White Harbor, Winterfell, Yronwood)
  
• 4 new religions - 'Ghiscari Gods' Slavers Bay, 'The Black Goat' Qohor, 'The Bearded Priests' Norvos and 'The Sun and Moon' Dothraki - (buildings included)
  
• A bunch of new ancillaries
  
• Many new building trees (17 new buildings with multiple upgrades)
  
• Animated banners for Westerosi cavalry
  
• New show style dragon model
  
• New show style giant model
  
• Show style hero models for dozen of characters
  
• New character strat model for the Dothraki
  
• Character strat model for Daenerys Targaryen
  
• Unique character strat model limited to all Targaryen family members
  
• Unique spy strat model for a newly added Varys
  
• Unique princess strat model for Sansa and Arya Stark
  
• Unique princess strat model for Margaery Tyrell
  
• Unique princess strat model for Cersei Lannister
  
• Unique priest model for a newly added Melisandre
  
• Unique diplomat model for a newly added Littlefinger
  
• New princess model and textures for all factions
  
• New diplomat model and textures for all factions (they are now called maesters and look the part)
  
• New priest model and textures for all factions (they are now called septons for the westeros factionns and look the part, essos get red priests)
  
• Changes to almost all minor house unit textures and unit cards.
  
• Added a Sons of the Harpy unit
  
• Added a Fiery Hand unit for Volantis (the guard of the red temple)
  
• Priests, spies, assassins and merchants added
  
• Pillage script added
  
• New unit models for house ryswell + flint (character strat models included)
  
• Changes to house Velaryons units
  
• Changes to house Harlaw's unit textures
  
• Tarly mounted crossbowmen changed to knights
  
• New model and textures for house Tallhart's roster
  
• New model and textures for house Celtigar's roster
  
• New model and textures for house Manwoody's roster
  
• New model and textures for house Ashford's roster
  
• New model and textures + one armour upgrade added for house Yronwood's roster
  
• Two armour upgrades added for house Tarly's roster.
  
• One armour upgrade added for house Daynes roster
  
• One armour upgrade added for house Hornwoods roster
  
• One armour upgrade added for house Crakehalls roster
  
• One armour upgrade added for house Umbers roster
  
• Dragons can now be retrained at Kings Landing and Dragonstone
  
• Changes to event UI
  
• Essos lordship ancillaries added
  
• General map changes
  
• portraits added for the sandsnakes and more

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• memory leak related to ui (no more buggy ui after viewing a number of unit/building descriptions)
  
• family tree crash
  
• Fixed banner carrier models (the carrier now has the same model has their roster)
  
• pikemen crash
  
• dothraki horse archers floating bow

Credits from the original Fire and Blood team:

• Badger-dude - Creator of the Fire and Blood mod.

• KorpsKog - For assisting with settlement creation, positioning, and research - among other things
  
• Prophet1331 - For providing skins, lovely new maps, suggestions, and other areas of input
  
• Dux and the KORAH Team - For letting me use some of their materials, and their inspiration
  
• Buttswag - For the symbols
  
• WithnRar, Gigantus, and Vegas_Bear for their support in scripting questions.
  
• ComradeH - Research and faction descriptions
  
• SoulGamesInc - For the publicity video
  
• Uriyaca for settlement suggestions
  
• Inarus for the Logo
  
• Jemdkyl, Stefan1921, Megells, and Hackera96 for their help with text editing!
  
• ... and the other members of the community who have provided feedback, suggestions, and other bits and bobs that have helped the mod progress

Credits:

• HannibalExMachina and the WTW team
  
• Gigantus - Menu LNT file from ROTK
  
• Mr_Nygren
  
• VltimaRatio for allowing me to use his unit models.
  
• Lifthrasir for creating new artwork.
  
• Dudeguyman for the targaryen units
  
• Inarus - Strat map models
  
• Toho for allowing me to use his map.
  
• Makanyane for allowing me to use the custom battle maps from WTW 1,0
  
• Joe021194 for the ageing script
  
• Warhammer BOET Alt-Cut team for the dragons and animations to go along with them(thanks to MidKnight for granting me permission)
  
• WTW 1.0 team - Scripts, UI and some units
  
• Bantu_Chieftan - rigged 4-5 strat models.
  
• SiriuslySexy - character research and some text descriptions.
  
• Isilendil - for some of his units from Call of Warhammer
  
• Units from OuO (thank's to Bob)
  
• Units from "With fire and sword 2"
  
• Lacs Byzantine Heavy Spearmen
  
• Lord_Calidor's Weapon Pack
  
• Ottoman units from Tzarsdom (Many thank's for that!)
  
• Models and skins from Rusichi TW

Many thanks to Aneirin and his Italian wars mod and those who contributed to that project for the essos units!

With special thanks to..

- Westeros total war 1.0 team
- Ice and Fire: Total War team
- Warhammer BOET Alt-Cut team
- Italian Wars mod
- Age of Petty Kings: Ice and Fire team
- Lifthrasir - for taking the time to create new loading screens for the mod.
- Gigantus - for sharing his knowledge..
- Makanyane - for sharing her knkowledge in the creation of battle maps and being patient with my pestering questions.
- ScouseSicario - The new hero head models + textures and the new model for House Targaryen.


Installation Instructions:
1) UnRar to your modsfolder
2) Launch the batchfile
3) Enjoy the game!


Links
Direct Download Link - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gFc...ew?usp=sharing




Moddb Page - https://www.moddb.com/mods/na37972

If you find any bugs or unexpected problems post or pm me and I'll do my best to help.

I'm looking for others to join me in development, if you are interested in lending a helping hand send me a PM.

[mchmmroncrck]

Nice work!

So this is a submod for Fire and Blood for .53? And NOT for 1.0, right?

[PrinceJammos]

Amazing work! If you need any descr_strat help, feel free to message me! Keep up the good work!

[PeaMan]

Nice work!

So this is a submod for Fire and Blood for .53? And NOT for 1.0, right?

Here's the original thread with the info you seek. - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...LEASED-12-6-15

Amazing work! If you need any descr_strat help, feel free to message me! Keep up the good work!

Some help with desc strat would be appreciated, if you want to lend a hand send me a message.

[killiat_thegreat]

[QUOTE=PeaMan;15727120]Here's the original thread with the info you seek. - www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?571411-RELEASED-SUBMOD-Fire-and-Blood-UPDATE-0-9-STABILITY-TEST-VERSION-RELEASED-12-6-15

i can read this on different ways: like it is a submod for 1.0, or a submod of 0.53 or a standalone version?

[GeneralG]

Awesome work. Would it be possible to do a dance of dragons\ winds of winter submod with stannis and the boltons still in the north. Just as the wildlings unite behind a resurrected jon? that would be an awesome setting.

[Mr_Nygren]

Awesome work. Would it be possible to do a dance of dragons\ winds of winter submod with stannis and the boltons still in the north. Just as the wildlings unite behind a resurrected jon? that would be an awesome setting.

The mod has many campaigns as custom campaigns.

It just needs to get all the models in, and then after that it will need to be playtested and stability needs to be secured. The point of this mod has become a Game of Thrones: Enhanced mod using a larger map with more campaign choices.

[GeneralG]

Is that a yes then. Haha. Im glad you finally found some help mr nygren for getting got enhanced upgraded with a new map.

[Mr_Nygren]

Is that a yes then. Haha. Im glad you finally found some help mr nygren for getting got enhanced upgraded with a new map.

Actually i didn't.

Peaman decided to do this on his own and got VltimaRatio and Clint Eastwood on-board. Then he contacted me and wanted me onboard as well. I am currently busy with HTW but i will be helping with this project further down the road. I think Got: Enhanced has one major flaw and that is unstability in the campaign. The smaller map is also bad - but despite these issues the mod has been getting many thousands of downloads since the last update for it.

18k in 2017 alone, and now they are counting 37k or something - and no update whatsoever since sep 2017. The models and factions do deserve a larger map and a stable mod - with all kinds of campaigns.

I think Peaman do agree with me though that the Westeros 1.0 map would be a better base.

[PeaMan]

Actually i didn't.

Peaman decided to do this on his own and got VltimaRatio and Clint Eastwood on-board. Then he contacted me and wanted me onboard as well. I am currently busy with HTW but i will be helping with this project further down the road. I think Got: Enhanced has one major flaw and that is unstability in the campaign. The smaller map is also bad - but despite these issues the mod has been getting many thousands of downloads since the last update for it.

18k in 2017 alone, and now they are counting 37k or something - and no update whatsoever since sep 2017. The models and factions do deserve a larger map and a stable mod - with all kinds of campaigns.

I think Peaman do agree with me though that the Westeros 1.0 map would be a better base.

Indeed, the 1.0 map is much nicer. I've ported all the GOT: Enhanced units to the 1.0 mod while removing all the units that mod had.

I still need to add the unit entries to the EDB as I only removed all the old entries and kept 1 as a placeholder for when I go to add the rest of the units to the buildings.

After that I'll look into improving the stability for the mod.

[Mr_Nygren]

Indeed, the 1.0 map is much nicer. I've ported all the GOT: Enhanced units to the 1.0 mod while removing all the units that mod had.

I still need to add the unit entries to the EDB as I only removed all the old entries and kept 1 as a placeholder for when I go to add the rest of the units to the buildings.

After that I'll look into improving the stability for the mod.

I am not convinced that is the right way to do it. If you are unlucky you'll get all the bugs of 1.0.

I think it would be better to take a clean Geomod and port the map to it and then the units. So no bugs are there from the start. I think there is a risk of 1.0 having lots of problems. It is a bad base. Would be better to use the map but not the mod. In other words start from scratch with the map. But we'll see if the 1.0 or AopK mods are stable first. I won't spend time on something as ctd-friendly as GoT Enhanced.

And both those Westeros mods are using the same base as GoT did.

[GeneralG]

To be fair aopk is one of the most stable m2tw mods ive played. If you delete the white walker script. If you can change some of the settlements a bit so it reflects the time of wofk. Like adding in kings landing and harrenhall. Two of the obvious ones. That would probably be your best bet. I personally prefer that map to westeros 1.0 as it is alot bigger and alows for a longer campaign. Thats just my 2 pence anyway.

[PeaMan]

I am not convinced that is the right way to do it. If you are unlucky you'll get all the bugs of 1.0.

I think it would be better to take a clean Geomod and port the map to it and then the units. So no bugs are there from the start. I think there is a risk of 1.0 having lots of problems. It is a bad base. Would be better to use the map but not the mod. In other words start from scratch with the map. But we'll see if the 1.0 or AopK mods are stable first. I won't spend time on something as ctd-friendly as GoT Enhanced.

And both those Westeros mods are using the same base as GoT did.

I'll be able to clean those bugs up when I move to fix the errors.

The WTW 1.0 BMDB was a mess to be honest, there was many duplicate and even triplicate entries which could be causing some of the crashes possibly. I removed all those and replaced them with the GOT units which are correct with no errors.

I think the GOT 4.9 mod crashed so much after battle with the 'fatal graphic errors' because there was over a 100 errors in the BMDB, 96 string count and 8 faction count errors but when I corrected the errors on the fire and blood mod all worked as intended with no crashes.

I could be wrong but I'll playtest a campaign and hopefully there's no fatal graphics error after battles as it almost certainly happened before in the 1.0 mod (at least for me)

To be fair aopk is one of the most stable m2tw mods ive played. If you delete the white walker script. If you can change some of the settlements a bit so it reflects the time of wofk. Like adding in kings landing and harrenhall. Two of the obvious ones. That would probably be your best bet. I personally prefer that map to westeros 1.0 as it is alot bigger and alows for a longer campaign. Thats just my 2 pence anyway.

True AOPK has the stability and is one of the best westeros mods that's been released but I think the 1.0 mod is just so much better and detailed.

That said we've got a AOPK version of the mod as well that already has all the GOT style units and the timeline changed though I'll be working on the 1.0 version in the dark.

[GeneralG]

I think ive had a go with that version on aopk its in the hotseat section? it was very good but it didn't have kings landing and other modern settlements. And the generic region got units like spearmen, pikemen, ect weren't in it, just faction specific units. Have you updated it since then? And it was very stable by the seems

[Mr_Nygren]

I'll be able to clean those bugs up when I move to fix the errors.

The WTW 1.0 BMDB was a mess to be honest, there was many duplicate and even triplicate entries which could be causing some of the crashes possibly. I removed all those and replaced them with the GOT units which are correct with no errors.

I think the GOT 4.9 mod crashed so much after battle with the 'fatal graphic errors' because there was over a 100 errors in the BMDB, 96 string count and 8 faction count errors but when I corrected the errors on the fire and blood mod all worked as intended with no crashes.

I could be wrong but I'll playtest a campaign and hopefully there's no fatal graphics error after battles as it almost certainly happened before in the 1.0 mod (at least for me)




True AOPK has the stability and is one of the best westeros mods that's been released but I think the 1.0 mod is just so much better and detailed.

That said we've got a AOPK version of the mod as well that already has all the GOT style units and the timeline changed though I'll be working on the 1.0 version in the dark.

I see - i didn't know of the BMDB errors in neither of those mods. What program are you using to check for errors in the BMDB? I am only using Notepad++ for any editing of code. I'll never use editors so it is hard for me to know the cause of an error/CTD unless i know what i just changed - that is why i test things all the time after i've done changes.

"because there was over a 100 errors in the BMDB, 96 string count and 8 faction count errors"

Did you fix GoT 4.9 in your personal version? Then it should have a re-release with the errors fixed.

I could do some playtetsing myself with the AopK-version that you sent me. However - House Targaryen would need all their GoT units added as that faction is still not using the units by Vltima. I could add them myself - i do remember adding that entire faction easily from GoT to the other mod. You have placed the folders differently and that would make copy/pasting harder but not impossible to work around it. If you want to implement them you can do it - but they really need those GoT models. I did also make most of their basic unit variations in MS3D using textures and one mesh by Vltima. He made a Targaryen Spearmen unit and i did add other variants such as the crossbowmen, bowmen, swordsmen, halberds and pikemen.

Based on your info i am getting hopeful that AopK is actually stable.

- Main reason for using Westeros 1.0 would be that we'd get the custom settlements automatically as they are implemented already.

[Mr_Nygren]

To be fair aopk is one of the most stable m2tw mods ive played. If you delete the white walker script. If you can change some of the settlements a bit so it reflects the time of wofk. Like adding in kings landing and harrenhall. Two of the obvious ones. That would probably be your best bet. I personally prefer that map to westeros 1.0 as it is alot bigger and alows for a longer campaign. Thats just my 2 pence anyway.

There was a "War of the Five Kings"-themed mod/map available on moddb as well, a WIP using AopK as a base - it hadn't gone too far in development though. Made by Admiral Thrawn as well. I once thought about using that map but never did start any work on that. I thought it had too many old factions and old text. Peaman has turned the recent version of AopK into a GoT copy when it comes to the faction symbols and their armies - just a few incomplete factions now. The mod does crash if you click on too many symbols after one another in the faction selection screen. You also cannot enter two campaign selection screens without it crashing. Like first clicking on one of the campaigns, exiting out to the menu - and then clicking one of the other campaigns.

It has like four or five WIP campaigns.

All the loading screens etc needs to be ported and i will take care of that. It also is much more ready than the old releases but still not finished. Stannis lacks minor troops, Nights Watch and Wildlings do need strat-models - and House Targaryen needs a replacement of their army.

We might also consider if we want two Targaryen factions (Aegon and Daenarys) or just one (Daenarys). Two could be cool as well. I am convinced Vltima would be happy to create units for Aegon too.

[Mr_Nygren]

I think ive had a go with that version on aopk its in the hotseat section? it was very good but it didn't have kings landing and other modern settlements. And the generic region got units like spearmen, pikemen, ect weren't in it, just faction specific units. Have you updated it since then? And it was very stable by the seems

The fact AopK is lacking important settlements close to the wall, and in the Westerlands etc could easily be fixed in Geomod. I do certainly agree the map will need a proper update to fit the timeline. As long as there aren't too many rebels, resources and family members - i could probably add that myself in Geomod. If there are too many things on the map then Geomod might not work. It doesn't work anymore in Warcraft because of that, and removing stuff didn't help because i would get a crash whenever trying to save any progress in Geomod.

I do believe the mod is updated a lot since the version you did play. But still not ready.

[PeaMan]

I see - i didn't know of the BMDB errors in neither of those mods. What program are you using to check for errors in the BMDB? I am only using Notepad++ for any editing of code. I'll never use editors so it is hard for me to know the cause of an error/CTD unless i know what i just changed - that is why i test things all the time after i've done changes.

"because there was over a 100 errors in the BMDB, 96 string count and 8 faction count errors"

Did you fix GoT 4.9 in your personal version? Then it should have a re-release with the errors fixed.

I could do some playtetsing myself with the AopK-version that you sent me. However - House Targaryen would need all their GoT units added as that faction is still not using the units by Vltima. I could add them myself - i do remember adding that entire faction easily from GoT to the other mod. You have placed the folders differently and that would make copy/pasting harder but not impossible to work around it. If you want to implement them you can do it - but they really need those GoT models. I did also make most of their basic unit variations in MS3D using textures and one mesh by Vltima. He made a Targaryen Spearmen unit and i did add other variants such as the crossbowmen, bowmen, swordsmen, halberds and pikemen.

Based on your info i am getting hopeful that AopK is actually stable.

- Main reason for using Westeros 1.0 would be that we'd get the custom settlements automatically as they are implemented already.

I use the 'checkmodeldbsyntax' made by KnightErrant its very handy when it comes to editing the BMDB as it shows the number of processed units and any errors. - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1180

I haven't actually made the fixes for the GOT version sadly but I think it's probably the cause of the CTD's after battles though I could be wrong.

Yea some playtesting would be nice, Clint recently sent me his desc_strat for the winds of winter custom campaign but he's asked that I tweak the family trees for his setting as they're a bit complex spanning a few generations so when I plan on doing that for him I'll add the targ units etc. I believe joffrey also needs some units though the faction ownership just needs to be added to the units in the EDB/EDU, Stannis also needs 'basic' baratheon troops.

I've finished the work on the EDB for WTW 1.0 and all the units can now be recruited + house units at their relevant settlements. Some play testing on this version is needed also if your up for that, if so I'll send you the WTW 1.0 modded files.

[mchmmroncrck]

Very glad you guys are putting forth the effort to improve 1.0

I'm 100 turns in on a Stark campaign and, tho I'm not a modder, have been taking notes of any odd bugs.

Thanks very much.

[Mr_Nygren]

I use the 'checkmodeldbsyntax' made by KnightErrant its very handy when it comes to editing the BMDB as it shows the number of processed units and any errors. - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1180

I haven't actually made the fixes for the GOT version sadly but I think it's probably the cause of the CTD's after battles though I could be wrong.

Yea some playtesting would be nice, Clint recently sent me his desc_strat for the winds of winter custom campaign but he's asked that I tweak the family trees for his setting as they're a bit complex spanning a few generations so when I plan on doing that for him I'll add the targ units etc. I believe joffrey also needs some units though the faction ownership just needs to be added to the units in the EDB/EDU, Stannis also needs 'basic' baratheon troops.

I've finished the work on the EDB for WTW 1.0 and all the units can now be recruited + house units at their relevant settlements. Some play testing on this version is needed also if your up for that, if so I'll send you the WTW 1.0 modded files.

Sure, send it to me and i will test it as well as the other mod.

I am surprised how fast you are porting everything to another mod. I used to be effective in 2016 but the more you mod the more lazy you'd get because it would get tiresome to do the same stuff too much. I remember in the first year it were exciting, while now it is not very exciting until a mod is almost ready.