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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    Bolsonaro does not even reject his fascist mentality
    Right. However, fascism and communism, two totalitarian regimes, aren't exactly the same thing...
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    Food for thought, World Report 2019: World's Autocrats Face Rising Resistance
    Excerpts
    Most pursue a two-step strategy for undermining democracy: first, scapegoat and demonize vulnerable minorities to build popular support; then, weaken the checks and balances on government power needed to preserve human rights and the rule of law, such as an independent judiciary, a free media, and vigorous civic groups. Even the world’s established democracies have shown themselves vulnerable to this demagoguery and manipulation.
    Because they dislike human rights scrutiny, autocratic leaders also tend to retreat from the defense of human rights beyond their borders.
    Much of this pushback has played out at the United Nations—a noteworthy development because so many autocrats seek to weaken this multilateral institution and undermine the international standards that it sets.

    The Dark Side of Autocratic Rule

    Despite the mounting resistance, the forces of autocracy have been on the rise. For example, Brazil elected as president Jair Bolsonaro—a man who, at great risk to public safety, openly encourages the use of lethal force by the military and police.
    Established autocrats and their admirers continued their disregard for basic rights
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    Few escape criticism. Quoting,

    ...New governments had to pick up the defense of human rights because several important governments faltered. President Trump preferred to embrace autocrats whom he viewed as friendly, even if parts of the US government often tried to work around the White House. The British government, worried about Brexit, appeared willing to publicly advocate for human rights mainly in countries where British trade or commercial interests were limited. French President Emmanuel Macron defended democratic values rhetorically, but too often found reasons to avoid applying those principles when they implicated efforts to curb migration, fight terrorism, or secure commercial opportunities. Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel spoke against anti-rights policies emanating from Moscow and Washington but was often beset by political challenges at home. China and Russia did all they could to undermine global rights enforcement, while at home they imposed the most repressive rule in decades.

    UN Human Rights Council

    Against this challenging backdrop, a critical mass of human rights supporters has regularly risen to the occasion. The 47-member UN Human Rights Council was an especially important venue. It proved significant even though the Trump administration ordered the United States to withdraw from it—the first country ever to do so—in a failed effort to discredit the council’s regular criticism of Israel.
    The Human Rights Council made major advances despite—and in one case arguably because of—the US absence...
    For the first time, the Human Rights Council condemned the severe repression in Venezuela under President Maduro. A resolution, led by a group of Latin American nations, won by a vote of 23 to 7 with 17 abstentions.
    This followed the US government’s departure from the council, making it easier for resolution sponsors to show they were addressing Venezuela as a matter of principle rather than as a tool of Washington’s ideology.
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    In the age we live in, distinguishing the Chinese model communism and fascism does not mean that much imo.

    The world today is largely divided between various nationalists/protectionists who value traditions, people who cannot keep up with the global change and want protection and call for local emotions through nationalism vs global liberals who value rights and freedoms.

    Of course this is an extreme generalization. But if you compare the Chinese mentality with the desires of the rising nationalists in Europe or the fascist old guard of Latin America, they are quiet similar.
    At least FUNCTIONALLY, they will end up in the same place with similar collectivist values (not collectivist in the sense of labour solidarity, but more as in totalitarianism-state-led identity formation).

    Our main tool today as political units is nation-states. What nation-states can do is for the most part known. We are not heading towards a completely new place. Nation-state can either take more power and close or open up and leave things to global forces, regardless of the ideological position that dominates it.
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    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
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    Stick- to-the democratic rule", really? Here is what fascist Bolsonaro really thinks,
    He has softened up a lot since then. Now he holds LGBT flags in the open, and has enacted legislation that protects women from violence. His sons, Carlos and Eduardo, are soft and friendly to the gay lobby.

    Bolsonaros is a proto-fascist with a mix of ultra-nationalist statism,social ultraconservatism,economic ultra-neoliberalism and a spiritual militarism.
    Nowadays, neo-fascism seek domination through extreme neoliberalism.Neoliberalism³ + Neoconservatism + Neofascism= Neoliberals, Neocons, and Neofascists Unite! the New World Order
    Far left drivel. Today and nowadays, most of the left is as neoliberal as the right. Neocons are not "fascist" by any stretch, even Trump isn't.

    You sound like a Communist, really.

    As for the open adulation of Hugo Chavez's dictatorship, it's typical of left double standards. So what that you get some leftie stooges, including F. Hollande - the biggest of them all, who left with the lowest approval rating for a French president *ever* in history. Same thing with Jimmy Carter, who was just beaten badly by the populist hero and neoliberal Ronald Reagan.

    If you love quoting from globalist and neoliberal elites, let's do the opposite game and then quote from the other part of this same neoliberal elite. Let's see one of the key aspects of authoritarianism, of the same sort that even Bolsonaro himself employs:

    "Lewis Coser, in his classical scholarly work, THE FUNCTIONS OF SOCIAL CONFLICT, showed how group hostility towards others may be employed as a way to increase group cohesion and autonomy. He claims that conflict with outside groups tends to increase internal cohesion. Coser also asserted that groups that are engaged in continual struggles with outside associations tend to become intolerant and less likely to tolerate dissent.
    Coser's observations and findings are important, especially in analyzing authoritarian and totalitarian countries. Leaders of such states lack legitimacy and will employ the idea of the enemy to strenghten their rule. - NOTE: Carl Schmitt's own illiberal golden rule, the friend x enemy distinction, at work here. It works brilliantly in China, and it also works in today Venezuela.
    It comes as no surprise that in a 2010 visit to Venezuela, President Bashar al-Assad called Chavez an "Arab leader" - NOTE: Cozying up to Arab world despots that deliberately gas thousands of their own minorities. How liberal, how democratic! lol
    Alvarez Paez claims that the Chavez regime is employing the idea of the enemy in order to conceal the many problems facing Venezuela. - SEE ABOVE. So did Hitler, anyway. "Economic crisis? Booming unemployment?" It's the Jews' and bankers fault
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    Garavini claims that the reason why Chavez insists on an american invasion is tied to domestic affairs. Following the examples of his mentor Fidel Castro, and the teachings of Joseph Goebbels, Chavez knows that the masses are ignorant and have very little knowledge of foreign affairs. Repeating the same lie thousands of times, might transform it into a truth, as Goebbels said.
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    The opposition cannot be blamed for the rampant corruption in Venezuela, but accusing them of being traitors justifies the strenghtening of centralization and the elimination of local government. Some local states were accused of collaborating with colombia. These acts were taken with complete neglect of constitutional requirements. - NOTE: Looming, rampant, aribtrary, "fascist" authoritarianism. Check.
    Etc... Etc... Etc...

    https://books.google.com.br/books?id...legacy&f=false

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...s-9138930.html

    It may be true, as supporters of the Venezuelan government are fond of pointing out, that both Hugo Chavez and his successor Nicholas Maduro have been ‘democratically elected'. If one takes the view that democracy is defined simply as what happens on polling day, then the Venezuelan electoral system is arguably, as former US President Jimmy Carter described it, “the best in the world”. But as any honest person will tell you, democracy is as much about what happens in between elections as what occurs on polling day; and you don’t need to be shoved into a voting booth at the barrel of a gun to be living under tyranny.

    In its 2012 report, Amnesty International said that “Human rights defenders [in Venezuela] were threatened and politically motivated charges continued to be used against government critics”. According to Human Rights Watch, “the accumulation of power in the executive branch and the erosion of human rights guarantees have enabled the government to intimidate, censor, and prosecute its critics”. In Britain there is an ongoing debate over the use of water cannons which the home secretary wants the police to have the power to deploy during unrest. The British left is in principle opposed to water cannons, as any civilised person should be. However I have just watched a video of Venezuelan protesters being water-cannoned and I have heard not a word of condemnation from the people who will be writing angry letters to the New Statesman if the same weapon is deployed on British streets. Why the double standard?
    Anyone who is genuinely concerned about the poor (rather than simply interested in sloganeering on their behalf) is obliged to recognise just how bad the situation in Venezuela is becoming as a result of the policies pursued by the government. Venezuela has one of the world’s “highest inflation rates, worst misalignment of the exchange rate, fastest-growing debts and one of the most precipitous drops in productive capacity”, as the former Venezuelan minister Moisés Naím put it.
    https://panampost.com/valerie-marsma...?cn-reloaded=1


    Both proclaim populist slogans against poverty; they plunder the economy through “nationalization;” they begin by first persecuting their compatriots, who understand they are being deceived, and then, any opponent who dares to stand in their way; they buy votes with cheap populist promises, throwing crumbs to the masses; they form government-loyalist groups, allied through economic assistance; and they create a national enemy: gypsies, Jews, and French for the Germans, and Yankees and imperialists for the Venezuelans.

    Finally, they make constant public appearances with manipulative propaganda based on three key concepts: “everything for the nation,” “the opposition dreams of making us poorer,” and “we should unite against the enemy” — with the clear objective of dividing the population: they (the oligarchs) against us (the good Germans/Venezuelans). The lie, repeated a thousand times, becomes the truth.

    To stay in power, both convert education into indoctrination. The state creates and imposes education programs to create a “new history,” to solidify the “atrocities” of the past in the minds of young people, and annihilate all forms of criticism.

    The governments of both countries create militias comprised of the ragged masses to defend their own communities. With all of this, both characters sink their respective countries into misery, and impose fear amid high levels of criminality (in Chavista-Madurista Venezuela, the homicide rate is 79 murders for every 100,000 people), despite the government’s talk of falling crime rates.

    It is important to remember that, in 14 years of 21st-century socialism in Venezuela, around 200,000 people have been murdered, making Chávez, and his physical extension, Maduro, indisputably guilty of genocide. And we cannot forget that both Hitler and the Chávez-Maduro pair governed via laws that run counter to the very principles of republicanism and democracy.
    How many people has Bolsonaro killed, really? How many war crimes was he complicit in? Remember, the total death toll of the Brazilian military dictatorship was 422 people in 20 years.

    So, really, what you're telling me is effectively this, Ludicus: leftie double standards, leftie political irrationality and sentimentality. In this sense, liberalism and liberal hypocrisy only ever work as a psychological and pseudo-moral weapon, weaponized against certain right wing figures by the same political figures and the same masses of politically indoctrinated people that would sooner or later abandon liberalism when it comes to building a far-left authoritarian utopia with genocidal undertones.

    Bolsonaro's commitment to liberal democracy is real, and his Neoliberalism is at least sound. What does that mean? It means, in the first place, that the country won't suffer from starvation and mass murder of political opponents as in Venezuela. So who's the real "fascist"?
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    Venezuela. So who's the real "fascist"?
    Whataboutism. (Who killed more: Hitler, Stalin or Mao?, etc.). Marie Louise, it comes to my mind that Trump has also developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized:say that someone or something else is worse. If you want to discuss the deteriorating situation in Venezuela, come here #1
    Anyway, #13
    Some considerations,
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    US doesn't give a about the human rights in Venezuela, the country with the largest reserves of oil in the world. it's all about its s own geostrategic agenda in the region, and to seize Venezuelan oil assets.
    - In my opinion, Maduro needs to go. In fact,the parliamentary assembly of the country have a democratic mandate from the people.
    BUT,
    -The decision to depose Maduro belongs to the Venezuelan people



    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    Bolsonaro's commitment to liberal democracy is real.. What does that mean?
    ("Real"...God save us)
    He means what he says. #59
    Through the vote you will not change anything in this country, right? Nothing! Absolutely nothing! You will only change, unfortunately, on the day when we begin a civil war here inside. And doing the job that the Military Regime didn’t do: killing thirty thousand! Beginning with Fernando Henrique Cardoso (President of Brazil)
    The big mistake was to torture and not kill.
    Let’s shoot all the PT members here in Acre
    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    Remember, the total death toll of the Brazilian military dictatorship was...
    Bolsonaro agrees with you,
    The situation of the country would be better today if the dictatorship had killed more people.
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    Bolsonaro, the shining paladin of the liberal democracy.
    As a side note, Bolsonaro believes the crimes of the Holocaust can be forgiven Can the Holocaust Be Forgiven? Bolsonaro Says Yes, Drawing Israeli's Ire
    Even the man who pointed out that everyone compares everything to Nazis says it's OK to call Bolsonaro nazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    Carlos and Eduardo, are soft and friendly to the gay lobby.
    Sure...
    Bolsonaro,
    "if I see two men kissing on the street, I’m going to hit them" ." Speech at the Clube Hebraica, Rio de Janeiro, April 3, 2017.
    In June 2011, he said he would “rather his son die in a car accident than be gay"

    The question is: who Killed Marielle Franco? Marielle and Monica: the LGBT activists resisting Bolsonaro's Brazil



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    Fresh news,

    This is just the beginning. There is much more to come, in the course of the next weeks.

    Leak Reveals Ethics Failures in Brazil's Operation Car Wash

    Judge Sergio Moro repeatedly counseled prosecutor Deltan Dallagnol via Telegram during more than two years of Operation Car Wash.

    In the files, conversations between lead prosecutor Deltan Dallagnol and then-presiding Judge Sergio Moro reveal that Moro offered strategic advice to prosecutors and passed on tips for new avenues of investigation. With these actions, Moro grossly overstepped the ethical lines that define the role of a judge. In Brazil, as in the United States, judges are required to be impartial and neutral, and are barred from secretly collaborating with one side in a case.

    Over the course of more than two years, Moro suggested to the prosecutor that his team change the sequence of who they would investigate; insisted on less downtime between raids; gave strategic advice and informal tips; provided the prosecutors with advance knowledge of his decisions; offered constructive criticism of prosecutorial filings; and even scolded Dallagnol as if the prosecutor worked for the judge.

    A separate article published today by The Intercept reveals that the Car Wash prosecutors, who long insisted that they were apolitical and concerned solely with fighting corruption, were in fact internally plotting how to prevent the return to power by Lula and his Workers’ Party.

    The successful prosecution of Lula rendered him ineligible to run in the 2018 presidential election at a time when all polls showed that the former president was the clear frontrunner.
    After the guilty verdict from Moro was quickly affirmed by an appellate court, Lula’s candidacy was barred by law. With Lula out of the running, the far-right candidate Jair Bolsonaro shot up in the polls and then handily won the presidency by defeating Lula’s chosen replacement, former São Paulo Mayor Fernando Haddad.

    Bolsonaro then named Moro, the judge who had presided over the case against Lula, to be his justice minister.

    This is merely the beginning of what we intend to be an ongoing journalistic investigation, using this massive archive of material, into the Car Wash corruption probe; Moro’s actions when he was a judge and those of the prosecutor Dallagnol; and the conduct of numerous individuals who continue to wield great political and economic power both inside Brazil and in other countries.
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    Bernie Sanders Calls for Brazil's Judiciary to Release Lula in Wake of ..
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    Who is Glenn Greenwald.
    Glenn Greenwald – The Intercept
    Glenn Greenwald, the Bane of Their Resistance | The New Yorker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie Louise von Preussen View Post
    So, really, what you're telling me is effectively this, Ludicus: leftie political irrationality
    Sorry for being pedantic, but "Leftie irrationality" is a socialist success here. A couple of years ago, The Socialist Party teamed up with the Portuguese Communist Party (PCP) and the radical Left Bloc (BE) to form a left-wing majority in Parliament. Our socialist government is being lauded by the mainstream media for the economic recovery in the country. Mario Centeno, President of the Eurogroup, was elected elected Best Finance Minister in Europe by The Banker in 2018.
    And we are... (three hours ago)
    ...Looking forward to the #Eurogroup discussion on Inequality tomorrow. I think we need to start looking at this as a European issue. I invited the distinguished French economist Philippe Aghion to present it to ministers
    Mário Centeno (@mariofcenteno) | Twitter

    The "irrational leftie" in Spain has also a democratic leftist coalition - Spain's Election Gives a Lift to the Left and a Warning to the Far Right ...
    Even in the US,times are changing...(just out of curiosity, are you a woman?) Most American Women Prefer Socialism to Capitalism: Poll
    55%
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    Bolsonaro ranted via TV after serious murder allegations came up against him and his son:

    ‘This will not stick’: Brazilian president lashes out over alleged links to left-wing politician’s killing

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...o-murder-link/
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    Fresh news. Brazil's Culture Secretary Fired After Quoting Goebbels | Time

    Brazilian media compared sections of his address to a Goebbels speech delivered in 1933. “German art of the next decade will be heroic; it will be like steel; it will be romantic, non-sentimental, factual; it will be national with great pathos and at once obligatory and binding, or it will be nothing,” Goebbels said.

    In the video, Alvim said: “Brazilian art of the next decade will be heroic and it will be national. It will have a great capacity for emotional involvement and it will at once be obligatory, because it will be profoundly linked to the urgent aspirations of our people, or it will be nothing.
    The video was set to a piece of string music by Richard Wagner.

    Rodrigo Maia, an opposition congressman and leader of Brazil’s lower house, had called for his resignation earlier Friday. Last April Bolsonaro’s former education minister promised to rewrite textbooks to “rescue the vision” of the 1964 coup that installed a military dictatorship in Brazil – a regime that Bolsonaro has repeatedly praised.
    I'm not surprised. Bolsonaro praised Hitler by calling him a "great strategist".The Israeli Confederation of Brazil, representing the country's Jewish community, said: "Emulating the vision of Hitler's Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels is a frightening sign of his vision of culture, which must be countered and contained.

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    Can the Holocaust Be Forgiven? Bolsonaro Says Yes, Drawing Israelis’ Ire

    Without comments.
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    As usual, leftist attempts to create panic by calling every non-leftist candidate a "new Hitler" didn't really work in the past few years, and definitely won't work in Brazil. It seems that Bolsonaro is just an edgy right-winger, who so far hasn't really done anything "far-right". I do see a problem with his environmental policies, but that's one thing liberal-leftist rubes are unable to focus on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    As usual, leftist attempts to create panic by calling every non-leftist candidate a "new Hitler.
    ...says HH, with Wagner's Lohengrin music playing in the background.




    The nazistoid admitted he was a fan of what Goebbels said."The phrase, in itself, is perfect: heroism and the people's aspirations is what we want to see"
    And the music:the music in itself is perfect!
    The "leftist" Israeli Confederation of Brazil, which represents Jews in the country, demanded his removal. As we already know, Jews are all communists.

    Brazilian nazis love Bolsonaro. Marco António,a personal friend of Carlos Bolsonaro.




    ...invited to to attend a meeting and give a speech at Rio Town Hall.

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    I like how certain people are trying their best to divert this thread from Bolsonaro's actions.
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    But but but he belongs to very fine people because he fights femnazis and leftists, the real dangers to the world... ^^
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    To be fair, while it is amusing to point out the similarities between Mr. Bolsonaro, his associates, and Fascists, I don't think it's actually helpful. It's probably better to attack Bolsonaro's policies on their own merit, lest Brazilians or some of our sensitive board members get all uppity about the allusions to fascism. Bolsonaro has cut education funding, toughened the stance on crime, and has been accused of being pretty negligent with the environment (Amazon deforestation). On the bright side the economy has improved and crime did drop. Though how much Bolsonaro had to do with either is up for debate. After all, the orange-in-chief has been on riding on one of, if not the greatest economic expansion in history.

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    Bolsonaro has cut education funding, toughened the stance on crime, and has been accused of being pretty negligent with the environment (Amazon deforestation).
    So basically he is Brazil's Bill Clinton (minus bombing of hospitals and schools in Balkans to distract the public from sex scandals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    To be fair, while it is amusing to point out the similarities between Mr. Bolsonaro, his associates, and Fascists.
    Well, I don't find it amusing. I'm afraid. Jair Bolsonaro's Model Isn't Berlusconi. It's Goebbels. – Foreign Policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    It's probably better to attack Bolsonaro's policies on their own merit,
    Bolsonaro's policies?

    Brazil: Bolsonaro′s broken promises | News | DW | 28.10.2019
    According to the latest figures from Brazilian pollster Ibope, Bolsonaro's approval ratings have dropped from 49% when he took office in January to 31% in September

    Brazil: Bolsonaro in homophobic outburst as corruption scandal swirls The Guardian

    Brazil President-elect Jair Bolsonaro's Corrupt Cabinet - The Intercept

    Indians are subhumans- a term of the nazi terminology. Jair Bolsonaro's racist comment sparks outrage from indigenous 24 January 2020 The Guardian

    In one of his weekly Facebook broadcasts on Thursday, Bolsonaro declared:
    "Indians are undoubtedly changing … They are increasingly becoming human beings just like us."

    In the 1990s, Bolsonaro, then a little-known congressman, publicly lamented how troops had failed to obliterate Brazil’s indigenous communities. The North American cavalry were the competent ones because they decimated their indigenous people in the past and today, they don’t have this problem in their country"

    Jair Bolsonaro's Southern Strategy | The New Yorker
    in one interview, he discounted the idea that democracy could bring order and prosperity: "You’ll only change things by having a civil war "
    For the Economist, Brazil's election - Jair Bolsonaro and the perversion of liberalism
    Reviving Latin America’s unholy marriage between market economics and political authoritarianism
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    Crimes of Holocaust can be forgiven? Israeli President Reuven Rivlin was very direct in his criticism in a tweet.

    We will never forgive and never forget. No-one will order the forgiveness of the Jewish people, and it can never be bought in the name of interests
    Some answers,
    "I'm so sorry, our president is a SHAME, I'm really sorry"
    "I’m truly sorry. I can assure you that we are way better than our president"
    "Thank you, President Rivlin, for your response to our despicable Brazilian president."
    "Our president is like a horror movie"
    "One can say that to some extent fascism has added a new variation to the old art of lying — the most devilish variation — that of lying the truth." Hannah Arendt"
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    The Haaretz summarized it pretty well,
    Mix up fascist geopolitics, Pat Robertson's LGBT hate, Bannon's nationalism and Putin's shills and you get Jair Bolsonaro, who's nostalgic for the U.S.-backed dictatorship that tortured and killed thousands of leftists
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    Pretty much anyone to the right of globalist liberalism is labeled as "fascist" these days by increasingly radicalizing leftist academia and legacy media.
    I mean sure, if you push overtone window as far to the left as possible, anyone who doesn't agree with literal socialism is a "fascist", but that requires one to abandon logic and reason, much like leftist today do. In a way, modern leftism has more in common with some kind of religious cult then with a system of political beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    .requires one to abandon logic and reason...kind of religious cult
    I guess you are talking about the political/religious cult you belong to- the Alt-Right, proto-fascist and anti-democratic.The Christian ethno-theology is the hallmark of the Alt-right.In doubt,ask Damara Alves.The Evangelical pastor Bolsonaro has chosen to head the Ministry of Women and Family said she tried to kill herself as a child. She saw Jesus when she climbed a guava tree to kill herself.


    Translation,
    I saw Jesus approaching the guava tree.He looked at me, he was so beautiful. He had a long robe, a long beard, a child's idea of Jesus! Jesus Christ started climbing the guava tree. I forgot about the poison and thought to myself: 'Don't come up, Jesus; you don't know how to climb a guava tree. You will fall and get hurt. You've suffered so much on the cross already!
    And a miracle happened on that guava tree: the little girl that Satan wanted to crush changed her ways and is now up there, in the Federal Senate, creating laws to save the children of Brazil!
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    'The playbook is the American alt-right': Bolsonaristas follow familiar extremist tactics The Guardian
    Brazil’s government looks to the US for inspiration – and the US alt-right copies how Bolsonaro supporters use social media.
    Pushing the limits and goading liberals are classic alt-right tactics, said Rodrigo Nunes, a political philosophy professor at Rio de Janeiro’s Pontifical Catholic University.

    “This is done in the US by people on the fringes of the public debate, and here it is done by people in the government,” Sending messages to people in the most extreme fringes of the far right.”
    Alvim denied knowing he had quoted Goebbels. Brazilian media reported that he was well aware that he was echoing Hitler’s propaganda minister and even joked he would be called a Nazi.
    It’s not hard to find other such rightwing dog-whistle messages around Bolsonaro’s government.

    His congressman son, Eduardo, and special adviser of international affairs Felipe Martins both have Twitter profile pictures which use a sci-fi, collage aesthetic called “vaporwave” or “fashwave” associated with the alt-right.

    Martins’ profile quotes Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night – the Dylan Thomas poem quoted in the manifesto of far-right terrorist Brenton Tarrant, accused of killing 51 people in the Christchurch mosque attacks.

    “These are common tropes,” said Alexandra Minna Stern, a professor in the American Culture department at the University of Michigan and author of Proud Boys and the White Ethnostate. In turn, the US alt-right is “interested in Brazil because they like Jair Bolsonaro and the way he and his supporters have used social media”
    Bingo.
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    A new film argues that Brazil teeters on the brink of authoritarianism.It's true The Guardian

    It is not often that a two-hour, Portuguese-language documentary about Brazilian politics, directed by a Brazilian film-maker, is nominated for an Oscar. But on Monday, the Academy-nominated Petra Costa’s Netflix film The Edge of Democracy – not as a foreign film, but as a contender for the more mainstream title of Best Documentary of 2019.
    Costa manages to craft an intimate primer about the state’s descent into populism and the fraying of the country’s democratic fabric.
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    I'm sure Bolsonaro is only concerned about ethics in video game journalism...
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    Yep ...
    More about Alvim, the nazistoid Brazil's culture secretary and fan of Goebbels, 'Unqualified, dangerous': the oddball officials running Bolsonaro's Brazil

    An online biography makes unusual reading. Aged 22, Alvim ditched a budding directing career to undergo “a process of inner discovery through meditation practices”. He ended up in a hut in north-eastern Brazil and depriving himself of food, water and human contact for 21 days.

    Alvim returned to theatre before reportedly finding God in 2017 after a supposedly miraculous cure for near-fatal cancer.
    “It was a direct intervention from our Lord Jesus Christ,” he recently claimed. Alvim has said his newfound faith converted him into a hardcore Bolsonarista.
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    Brazilians on Bolsonaro's first year - The Guardian

    Patrícia Campos Mello – award-winning journalist from Brazil’s Folha de São Paulo newspaper :
    "Every time you write a critical piece, you become a target for Bolsonaro supporters. I’d never been a target before – even when covering conflicts. I didn’t even feel like a target in Syria. But here, it’s personal"

    Celso Amorim – former foreign minister, 2003-10
    "
    Now, again, I feel ashamed – for many reasons, but especially by what is being done in foreign policy. In 50 years I’ve never seen anything like what is happening in Brazilian diplomacy today... Now it has embarked upon an all-out ideological war against everything that is not western or Christian – according to their conception.I feel sorry for my colleagues in the foreign service because I know some of them are being forced to do what they do because it’s their only job"

    Gustavo Bebianno – former Bolsonaro ally

    "You can agree with him about 99 things. But if you disagree on one and argue or try to offer another point of view, you are seen as a traitor. His administration became a sect of fanatics – and I’m not a fanatic"
    Il y a quelque chose de pire que d'avoir une âme perverse. C’est d'avoir une âme habituée
    Charles Péguy

    Every human society must justify its inequalities: reasons must be found because, without them, the whole political and social edifice is in danger of collapsing”.
    Thomas Piketty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    I guess you are talking about the political/religious cult you belong to- the Alt-Right, proto-fascist and anti-democratic.The Christian ethno-theology is the hallmark of the Alt-right.In doubt,ask Damara Alves.The Evangelical pastor Bolsonaro has chosen to head the Ministry of Women and Family said she tried to kill herself as a child. She saw Jesus when she climbed a guava tree to kill herself.
    Buzzwords aside, there is no difference between evangelicalism and woke leftism. Except that latter is more dangerous as it bears quite the influence in academia and media.

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    Yeah, while the loony religious right only has political power. What's that? Nothing, really. Random purple haired feminists are the real problem.
    Last edited by Gromovnik; January 29, 2020 at 05:14 AM.
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    There is no difference between evangelicals and woke neo-marxist loonies. They are intellectually equal, except the former tends to be less prone to violence then the latter.

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