Sishui Pass (Fortified Pass) siege battle CTD

**Dominick** · January 02, 2019, 05:43 PM

Hi there,

I'm reporting a CTD I'm getting while loading a siege battle at Sishui Pass while playing as Cao Clan on turn 2. It's the "Uh, oh" one.

Here's the system.log.txt: https://ufile.io/77ai4

If the game path seems odd, it's supposed to be so.

Cheers!

**Seether** · January 02, 2019, 08:17 PM

I just tested the same situation and had no issues.

I am, however, having issues opening the zip file with 7zip. Can you re-upload as a compressed (zipped) folder as opposed to using 7zip? Also, if you do not have your log set to trace, can you set it to trace and then replicate the error so it is recorded in the system.log? If it is already a trace log, then never mind.

Thank you, sir!

**Dominick** · January 03, 2019, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Seether

I just tested the same situation and had no issues.

I am, however, having issues opening the zip file with 7zip. Can you re-upload as a compressed (zipped) folder as opposed to using 7zip? Also, if you do not have your log set to trace, can you set it to trace and then replicate the error so it is recorded in the system.log? If it is already a trace log, then never mind.

Thank you, sir!

I used WinRar, but here's the same thing using 7Zip: https://uploadfiles.io/z41i0

Also, the version of the mod I'm playing is the latest one (3.0.030).

**Seether** · January 03, 2019, 08:01 AM

Thank you for that

Is it a repeatable crash? I'm assuming it's a new campaign after applying the 3.0.030 Patch? Looking at your log, I didn't really see anything indicative as to why it crashed. Faction_banner_england_trans.texture is the last thing listed in the log before the crash, so it could have been a faulty/corrupted download with that file. Unzip the attachment and place the texture file in your data/banners/textures folder : faction_banner_england_trans.zip

If that doesn't work, and considering the log doesn't give us any clear indication as to what is going on or why, there are really only two routes you can take. First, you can try to start a new campaign (if you haven't already). If that doesn't clear up the issue, your second option is a clean re-install; delete the rotk folder, install (in order) 3.0.000, then the 3.0.016 Patch & the 3.0.030 Patch.

**Dominick** · January 03, 2019, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Seether

Thank you for that

Is it a repeatable crash? I'm assuming it's a new campaign after applying the 3.0.030 Patch? Looking at your log, I didn't really see anything indicative as to why it crashed. Faction_banner_england_trans.texture is the last thing listed in the log before the crash, so it could have been a faulty/corrupted download with that file. Unzip the attachment and place the texture file in your data/banners/textures folder : faction_banner_england_trans.zip

If that doesn't work, and considering the log doesn't give us any clear indication as to what is going on or why, there are really only two routes you can take. First, you can try to start a new campaign (if you haven't already). If that doesn't clear up the issue, your second option is a clean re-install; delete the rotk folder, install (in order) 3.0.000, then the 3.0.016 Patch & the 3.0.030 Patch.

It is a repeatable crash. I've tried reinstalling, starting multiple campaigns and replacing the file with the one you've shared here, nothing works. The critical part of the system.log.txt is the same.

Do you by any chance have the -forbidden to talk about on Total War Center- installed (I don't) to use more GB of RAM? I'm trying to figure out what's wrong here myself as well.

**Seether** · January 03, 2019, 04:10 PM

I do use -that which shall not be named- on my end. But I will pester Gig to check this thread to see if he can’t use his expertise to figure out the problem.

**Gigantus** · January 03, 2019, 09:59 PM

You might be having a problem with folder path length:

C:\Users\domin\Desktop\New folder\Medieval 2 Total War\Medieval II Total War

That's already 77 characters to just go to the root of M2TW, now go to one of the attachment files (they are the trouble makers) and you end up with this (151 chars):

C:\Users\domin\Desktop\New folder\Medieval 2 Total War\Medieval II Total War\mods\rotk\data\unit_models\attachmentsets\final asian_mongols_norm.texture

It's a problem we came across in EBII and that's why went to the trouble of changing the default 'attachmentsets' folder to 'att' and kept the file names as short as possible.
This doesn't appear to be steam so test this by simply creating a c:\games folder and move the root of your M2TW installation (Medieval II Total War) there and rename it M2TW.
Should then look like this: C:\games\m2tw\mods\rotk - which brings the length to get to that texture down to 88, just over half.
Now start rotk via the bat file (your desktop shortcut will need correction).

If that solves the problem then reversing the above, uninstalling M2TW and re-installing is advised. You might run into this problem with other mods as well if left unchanged.
You can move the rotk folder somewhere else before uninstalling - that way you only have to fix the shortcut after re-installing and moving it back.

**Dominick** · January 04, 2019, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Seether

I do use -that which shall not be named- on my end. But I will pester Gig to check this thread to see if he can’t use his expertise to figure out the problem.

I've tried it as well, it didn't fix the problem.

Originally Posted by Gigantus

You might be having a problem with folder path length:

C:\Users\domin\Desktop\New folder\Medieval 2 Total War\Medieval II Total War

That's already 77 characters to just go to the root of M2TW, now go to one of the attachment files (they are the trouble makers) and you end up with this (151 chars):

C:\Users\domin\Desktop\New folder\Medieval 2 Total War\Medieval II Total War\mods\rotk\data\unit_models\attachmentsets\final asian_mongols_norm.texture

It's a problem we came across in EBII and that's why went to the trouble of changing the default 'attachmentsets' folder to 'att' and kept the file names as short as possible.
This doesn't appear to be steam so test this by simply creating a c:\games folder and move the root of your M2TW installation (Medieval II Total War) there and rename it M2TW.
Should then look like this: C:\games\m2tw\mods\rotk - which brings the length to get to that texture down to 88, just over half.
Now start rotk via the bat file (your desktop shortcut will need correction).

If that solves the problem then reversing the above, uninstalling M2TW and re-installing is advised. You might run into this problem with other mods as well if left unchanged.
You can move the rotk folder somewhere else before uninstalling - that way you only have to fix the shortcut after re-installing and moving it back.

Neither did this, sadly.

P. S. I've tried playing a custom siege battle on a Han "Wooden Castle", and then it crashed with the same log.

**Seether** · January 05, 2019, 06:36 AM

Do other settlements work without issue?

**Dominick** · January 05, 2019, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Seether

Do other settlements work without issue?

I've attacked a town with a palisade and a town with a brick wall in my campaign without issue.

**Minn** · January 28, 2019, 01:51 AM

I have the same problem and it's unplayable when I attack an enemy on 2 bridges at Xuanhan County (58,76 ; 61,74) in battle mode.

**Seether** · January 28, 2019, 05:51 AM

Can you elaborate Minn? Why are those bridge battles unplayable (heights, terrain, CTD) and are you also having issues with fortified passes?

**Minn** · February 02, 2019, 09:59 PM

It's height, and the army cant move. Yes, i have problem with fortified pass. Its the only two problem with this mod, everything else run smoothly.

p/s the unit card in campaign mode is hard to see. Could you change the background color of unit card to white and make a color border?

**Arjan13** · February 03, 2019, 01:34 PM

just out of curiosity i tried the Sishui pass battle and i have the same problem... Crash!...

**Seether** · February 03, 2019, 02:22 PM

Logs, please.

**Dominick** · February 21, 2019, 09:29 AM

Has there been any new insight into this problem? I might try the solutions you've sent me via PM Seether, but I have to install the whole thing again and that's not a priority for me right now sadly.

**Seether** · February 21, 2019, 09:43 AM

Sadly, no. Appears to be on a user basis, which means it is the individual users system and settings causing the issue. The one thing I think would help, I can’t technically suggest on TWC. I’m not suggesting to use it or condoning its use, but a certain “not-to-be-named” patch has improved M2TW’s performance and stability with large-scale mods.