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    Default Charlottesville- Justice for Heather Heyer

    A bittersweet postscript to the Charlottesville thread. Mods- happy to merge with the closed thread if appropiate.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...cussion/page52


    Ms Heather Heyer will receive justice.

    The jury saw through the lies/excuses offered by the brainwashed Nazi piece of who killed her ,James Alex Fields Jr , not hard seeing that he posted a message sent containing an image of Adolf Hitler and a meme posted on Instagram showing bodies tossed into the air after a car ploughs into a crowd identified as “protesters".

    He faces at least 20 years in jail ( is that all?) or death if Federal hate crime charges are taken into account during sentencing.


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-heather-heyer.

    I recall Trump suggesting that scum like Mr Fields jnr were 'very fine people'. Can we expect a retraction from the Orange -faced ?

    Here's some quotes from one our own forum members, by no means the worst, following some deletions.

    It looks like suicide by car at this point. And of course, SJWs and their media are blaming the evil "far-right", despite the fact that all these right-wing groups didn't break any laws and protested peacefully until antifa morons showed up and tried to start a riot.
    Apparently the antifa story turned out to be fake news, as the car was driving on a road, not the sidewalk. That happens frequently, since leftist loons think that they will gain sympathy by becoming a one giant inconvenience for everyone around them.
    It appears, generic road rage is now an "act of terrorism":
    Picture of the driver:
    A Nazi broke the law by murdering an innocent protester. An evil act committed by a member of the far right as right minded forum members recognised.

    The terrorist was identified as James Alex Fields Jr, a member of the fascist group "Vanguard America" that had been marching earlier in the day.
    Some questions.

    Death to the terrorist? Note Mongrel opposes the death penalty on principle, even for Nazis.

    Is it fair to consider anyone who has Tikka torch carrying tendencies a potential security risk, in much the same way as one does jihadis? That's my view.

    Should the Republican Party, and wider American society have done more to hold Trump into account for suggesting that people such as this sorry specimen of the Master Race are 'fine people', thereby disregarding the murder of a US citizen? Perhaps no hope of that, seeing that in the Kashoggi case, the Saudi Crown Prince is , in his mind also a 'fine person' due to him having loadsamoney.
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    I took an extended absence due to the alt-right insanity on this forum. I checked this place after I heard the story to see if anyone here was defending him. I was pleasantly surprised to see this instead.

    I wouldn't recommend the death penalty for this because the alt-right will just prop him up as a martyr.
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    I'm still fully convinced that, if surrounded by a fascist mob trying to kill me and having no other weapon than my car at my disposal, I've the right to use it (or whatsoever else) in my defense. Self defense surpasses any other consideration.

    I'm not interested in the fate of Heather Heyer, she was part a mob of hooligans using violence, intimidation and fascist aggression to disposses other citizens of their right to express their opinions.
    No, the fate of such characters is not part of my interests.

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    Nice try, Diocle,but I would argue that most reasonable gentlemen would consider unarmed women as no threat whatsoever, regardless of their politics. Murder is murder and the wilful killing of a helpless woman is one of the most cowardly of crimes. Heyer also had a right to protest and a right to life, neither of which were respected by this brainwashed Nazi murderer.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronBrig4 View Post
    I took an extended absence due to the alt-right insanity on this forum. I checked this place after I heard the story to see if anyone here was defending him. I was pleasantly surprised to see this instead.

    There is part of me that hopes that he could become repentant and perhaps work to prevent others from similar acting in similar fashion or help others to resist the conditioning he was clearly susceptable to. If not, well at least this 'fine person' may be taken out of the gene pool.
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    Mongrel I was looking to bump the original thread a little while ago but it was closed, glad you made this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    I'm still fully convinced that, if surrounded by a fascist mob trying to kill me and having no other weapon than my car at my disposal, I've the right to use it (or whatsoever else) in my defense. Self defense surpasses any other consideration.

    I'm not interested in the fate of Heather Heyer, she was part a mob of hooligans using violence, intimidation and fascist aggression to disposses other citizens of their right to express their opinions.
    No, the fate of such characters is not part of my interests.
    Yeah except for the fact that this Nazi backed up to where there were no people, and instead of just turning down an empty street and driving off, he plowed into a group of people AND another car. Doesn't sound like self preservation was the primary concern.

    Any chance at using a self defense murdered itself quicker than his hero Adolf Hitler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Nice try, Diocle,but I would argue that most reasonable gentlemen would consider unarmed women as no threat whatsoever, regardless of their politics. Murder is murder and the wilful killing of a helpless woman is one of the most cowardly of crimes. Heyer also had a right to protest and a right to life, neither of which were respected by this brainwashed Nazi murderer.
    I wasn't trying to do anything at all, I've just repeated what I wrote on the old thread, I'm here not to prevail or convince anybody (I couldn't care less of it!), I'm just expressing what I think.

    In these days we have seen similar scenes in France, three people are dead in a very similar way, I firmly support the French insurrection of the so called gilet jaune, but I don't think it's a good choice attacking people on their car, panic, fear and claustrophobia of those closed inside the car's cockpit, are an explosive and very dangerous mixture! I deeply hate this kind of action where one is alone against a damn fascist mob, I don't like this crap.

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    As was proven in the court, he did not act in self-defense and came to Charlottesville with the intent to hurt people. Like the other alt-right, he's a pure scumbag. He'll have to shower with his butt cheeks taped together.
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    No death penalty for him. Let him rot in jail. At least he won't be an incel anymore
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    I'd like to make it explicitly clear that Diocle believes a Neo-Nazi is getting unfair treatment for killing an innocent woman.

    So basically...He thinks that ramming a crowd of people with a car is a-okay, so long as they feel threatened. Nevermind the fact that multiple witnesses confirm he was never under direct threat.

    So yeah. Diocle sides with a Nazi over a murder, and then calls the victims the fascists, completely ignoring logic as well as the definition of fascism. You might just want to look that word up again, Diocle.

    Typical right wing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    I'm still fully convinced that, if surrounded by a fascist mob trying to kill me and having no other weapon than my car at my disposal, I've the right to use it (or whatsoever else) in my defense. Self defense surpasses any other consideration.

    I'm not interested in the fate of Heather Heyer, she was part a mob of hooligans using violence, intimidation and fascist aggression to disposses other citizens of their right to express their opinions.
    No, the fate of such characters is not part of my interests.
    That's totally ok. You're allowed to be ignorantly wrong. We'll just see if you correct yourself based on evidence at hand:

    https://twitter.com/thawncbs19/statu...863360/photo/1

    (Hint: it shows his state of mind going into the demonstration argued the prosecution, the judge agreed, and said it was admittable as evidence)

    I mean. Unless of course you think he texted Hitler to his mother in self defense a day before he drove the car into the crowd? I await your explanation with baited breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    far right
    "Far right" is not a synonym for "baddie." Fascism is a generally left-wing ideology, favoring central planning of economy and society, although I doubt the average self-described fascist today knows anything about what fascism actually is. Seems to be just a way for edgy teenage and 20-something people to rebel against society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Legend View Post
    "Far right" is not a synonym for "baddie." Fascism is a generally left-wing ideology, favoring central planning of economy and society, although I doubt the average self-described fascist today knows anything about what fascism actually is. Seems to be just a way for edgy teenage and 20-something people to rebel against society.
    A woman is murdered by a terrorist and this is all you can say. Let's call the mudering sod a Nazi then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Legend View Post
    "Far right" is not a synonym for "baddie." Fascism is a generally left-wing ideology, favoring central planning of economy and society, although I doubt the average self-described fascist today knows anything about what fascism actually is. Seems to be just a way for edgy teenage and 20-something people to rebel against society.
    There is not a single reputable metric that places fascism on the left side of the spectrum. The "authoritarianism" spot is filled with communism/socialism. You can't put all three on the same side and leave nothing on the right just because Nazi's and other extreme right wing semi-sentient goobers don't want to admit what they are: fascist trash.

    And don't give me "b-b-but Nazi has SOCIALISM IN IT"...Names mean nothing, otherwise if that's the case you might as well move to the People's Democratic Republic of Korea...sounds like heaven with that name.
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    It is truly a shame that antifa mob caused her death by starting an illegal violent riot and attacking cars.

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    And yet the vast majority of violence is instigated by worthless alt-righters who have never done anything worth a damn in their lives. They can call themselves Proud Boys or Patriotic Eagle Freedom Network or whatever. They're still white trash who will never amount to anything.

    I can think of any number of ways this festering sack of crap will be gruesomely killed in prison. Or maybe he'll become a Nazi gang member's to survive. It's comforting.
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    It is safe to say that violence that happened there was partially fault of local idiot cops, but mostly "antifascist" mobs that terrorized both protesters and locals. If antifa idiots didn't riot then that woman wouldn't have a heart attack and that guy whose car these idiots attacked wouldn't have his life ruined. I recall posting a study about most antifa members being jobless losers living with their parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    It is safe to say that violence that happened there was partially fault of local idiot cops, but mostly "antifascist" mobs that terrorized both protesters and locals. If antifa idiots didn't riot then that woman wouldn't have a heart attack and that guy whose car these idiots attacked wouldn't have his life ruined. I recall posting a study about most antifa members being jobless losers living with their parents.
    I can say quite safely that 'the mobs' didn't drive that car into the crowd. It was entirely the fault of the Nazi , who had already signalled intent to run people over on social media.
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    The heart attack thing has been well and truly debunked. In fact, that notion originated on a hate site. https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-...wirling-687195
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBrig4 View Post
    The heart attack thing has been well and truly debunked. In fact, that notion originated on a hate site. https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-...wirling-687195
    Exactly, according to her medical report, she died of blunt force trauma to the torso.
    @HH "Everything except for CNN is a hate site". I'll never get tired of this NPC logic.

    Just the same type of strawman you usually post and your typical ironic lack of self awareness, no one here other than you mentioned CNN nor did anyone label any website other than the Daily Stormer a hate site on this thread. It's getting quite pathetic how you constantly post claim after claim that drag you down to level of stupidity found in groups like flat earthers.


    Take for example the Lusitania was sunk by the Democrats! and the recent potential bombing of key Democratic figures was done by the Democrats themselves because no one would be that stupid to send letter bombs to people who have others open their letters for them and it must take a genius like the Unabomber to construct pipe bombs (Um have you completely forgotten that it's 2018, not the 1970s,80s or early 90s
    anymore and that there is a such thing as the Internet which is now extremely commonplace, allowing ****ing idiots to have relatively easy access to guides on how to make explosives). You clearly do recognise how unreliable Alex Jones is and the value of reliable hard evidence yet you also went on a tirade about South Africa, screeching for months about how there's a genocide of Whites in the country despite there being very little evidence aside from you and a few other's paranoid rambly misinterpretations of Afrikaner emigration and murder rates.

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    "Everything except for CNN is a hate site". I'll never get tired of this NPC logic.
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