Announcement: Europa Barbarorum II 2.35 released!

[JC_von_Preussen]

I already sent this on Facebook :

T H A N K Y O U S O M U C H

I salute you all !

[Rad]

Did you add fallback triggers for the Carthaginian reforms in 2.35?
Asking because I am down to one Barcid and two Anti-Barcids. The rest aren't taking a side - damn moderates!

[QuintusSertorius]

Did you add fallback triggers for the Carthaginian reforms in 2.35?
Asking because I am down to one Barcid and two Anti-Barcids. The rest aren't taking a side - damn moderates!

No, the fallback is for the AI only. If necessary, use give_trait to get your Barcid Leader, if none is forthcoming.

[nvm]

I have been unable to establish Royal Clans as Parthia in Bukhara and Khwarezm, only allied ones. Is this intended?

[QuintusSertorius]

I have been unable to establish Royal Clans as Parthia in Bukhara and Khwarezm, only allied ones. Is this intended?

Yes; there is no longer the Royal Clan free for all for nomadic factions, only certain places can host them. For Pahlava, that's Assak, Hekatompylos and Nisaya.

[Sar1n]

Do nomadic enclaves somehow interfere with hellenistic poleis and colonies, beside the cultural conversion?

And I keep forgetting...at which age do FMs gain unschooled or school based traits? I do not want to pull them away too soon, but I need a new governor...

[QuintusSertorius]

Do nomadic enclaves somehow interfere with hellenistic poleis and colonies, beside the cultural conversion?

Though all types of colonies are mutually exclusive, in that instance the presence/absence of a pastoral region makes them exclusive of each other anyway. You might put a polis in a pastoral region, but you can't put a helcol there, and nomadic enclaves require pastoral regions.

Note that nomadic enclaves aren't all that generous - it's only 4 point of units, but for some factions they are a welcome source of different cavalry, or simply something you wouldn't otherwise have access to.

And I keep forgetting...at which age do FMs gain unschooled or school based traits? I do not want to pull them away too soon, but I need a new governor...

Some time before the age of 28.

[Sar1n]

Though all types of colonies are mutually exclusive, in that instance the presence/absence of a pastoral region makes them exclusive of each other anyway. You might put a polis in a pastoral region, but you can't put a helcol there, and nomadic enclaves require pastoral regions.

Note that nomadic enclaves aren't all that generous - it's only 4 point of units, but for some factions they are a welcome source of different cavalry, or simply something you wouldn't otherwise have access to.

Is it really only pastoral? In my KB campaign, I can build the initial enclave building in Khersonesos and Pantikapion, and they're not pastoral.

And there is something weird about my KB campaign...I don't have colonists yet, but I had hellenistic polis since start and it should generate colonists every 48 turns, it is turn 67 and nothing. Building browser shows no siege unit recruitment available in Basilike Patris in Pantikapion (I'll se once I can build it), and I government building show no Thureophorentes Toxotai available, but two recruitment pools for Thureophorentes Hippotoxotai. And I can't seem to be able to recruit Thureophoroi, Euzonoi or Machiarophoroi anywhere....

[QuintusSertorius]

Is it really only pastoral? In my KB campaign, I can build the initial enclave building in Khersonesos and Pantikapion, and they're not pastoral.

Ah, I'm remembering an earlier incarnation of it - you're right. It only requires the nomadic_migration hidden_resource, and is mutually exclusive with Foreign and Hellenistic Colonies.

And there is something weird about my KB campaign...I don't have colonists yet, but I had hellenistic polis since start and it should generate colonists every 48 turns, it is turn 67 and nothing. Building browser shows no siege unit recruitment available in Basilike Patris in Pantikapion (I'll se once I can build it), and I government building show no Thureophorentes Toxotai available, but two recruitment pools for Thureophorentes Hippotoxotai. And I can't seem to be able to recruit Thureophoroi, Euzonoi or Machiarophoroi anywhere....

You need three polis_two's or one polis_three to get colonists. They will then generate colonists every 16 turns. Bosporans don't get siege engines in their governments, they can only get them from helcol_three/helcol_ref.

Thureopherontes Toxotai are a late unit for everyone, but the Bosporans have early access to the Hippotoxotai. There are two pools because one comes from the region pool, the other the special pool in the government building.

You'll get those thureos-using units after the later reform; the northern shore is a backwater compared to the eastern Mediterranean.

[Sint]

Are Speudogordoz/Askamanniz supposed to be so...bad?No matter how I use them they perform worse than simliar prized units.They lack killing power(despite the 8 attack) and they have no survivability in meele despite the pikes.Even some of my cheaper normal spear units(like the chatti) perform better.I didn't expect them to perform like a phalanx but this is a bit dissapointing they seem to kill far slower than normal 8 attack spear units.

[hlidskjalf]

were the tracks from 0.A.D. removed from the barbarian (gallic) campaign? i did have a track play when i got the popup for liberating felsina, but otherwise, haven't heard them playing, have heard some new tracks, though

[Genava]

were the tracks from 0.A.D. removed from the barbarian (gallic) campaign? i did have a track play when i got the popup for liberating felsina, but otherwise, haven't heard them playing, have heard some new tracks, though

Yeah this funny thing, I have seen it as well. Gladly 0 A.D. is open source but normally you should accept the open-source policy to use it.

[Kull]

Yeah this funny thing, I have seen it as well. Gladly 0 A.D. is open source but normally you should accept the open-source policy to use it.

At the request of the composer, we did just that. Please read mods\ebii\data\sounds\music\license.txt

[hlidskjalf]

At the request of the composer, we did just that. Please read mods\ebii\data\sounds\music\license.txt

i see this:

1) The 7 music tracks listed below were created by Omri Lahav, from the game 0 A.D., released under the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA license:

Juno Protect You
Mediterranean Waves
Peaks of Atlas
The Road Ahead
Valley of the Nile
Ammon-Ra
Land between the two Seas

but the tracks Cisalpine Gaul, Celtic Pride, and Celtica (from the same composer) were removed with the most recent patch?

[Kull]

but the tracks Cisalpine Gaul, Celtic Pride, and Celtica (from the same composer) were removed with the most recent patch?

At the request of our Gallic Historian/faction lead. They could be modded back in, of course, using the appropriate files in v2.3 as a model.

[Sar1n]

I see...damn...so I gotta go kick some major butt down south to get colonists. Oh well...I'll hit the Byzantion and hope that Pergamon will be stupid enough to go for it.

By the way...just how big force do reemerging factions get? Epiros won the battle for Hellas in my campaign, but then KH reemerged in Korinth, and took Sparta, Athens and Thermon in just a few turns, and shows no sign of slowing down. In fact, my spy revealed the battle for Thermon to be full stack vs. just a few defenders.

[Lusitanio]

I see...damn...so I gotta go kick some major butt down south to get colonists. Oh well...I'll hit the Byzantion and hope that Pergamon will be stupid enough to go for it.

By the way...just how big force do reemerging factions get? Epiros won the battle for Hellas in my campaign, but then KH reemerged in Korinth, and took Sparta, Athens and Thermon in just a few turns, and shows no sign of slowing down. In fact, my spy revealed the battle for Thermon to be full stack vs. just a few defenders.

It all depends on the reemerging faction and its neighbours. For example, I'm testing a Pontos campaign, and currently in turn 186, the KH have reemerged 4 times and they never survived more than 10 turns because Epeiros destroyed them each time and also because of a problem I will tell to the team, a sort of malfunctioning of the reemerging process because the KH keep reemerging in a different city than what it is said in the message, but their stack appears in another city. For example, the KH reemerge in Sparta, the message says Athens instead, I look at the map and they have Sparta and a full stack in Athens. This leaves Sparta without defences and they are soon conquered.

[QuintusSertorius]

It all depends on the reemerging faction and its neighbours. For example, I'm testing a Pontos campaign, and currently in turn 186, the KH have reemerged 4 times and they never survived more than 10 turns because Epeiros destroyed them each time and also because of a problem I will tell to the team, a sort of malfunctioning of the reemerging process because the KH keep reemerging in a different city than what it is said in the message, but their stack appears in another city. For example, the KH reemerge in Sparta, the message says Athens instead, I look at the map and they have Sparta and a full stack in Athens. This leaves Sparta without defences and they are soon conquered.

It's the known wandering re-emerge point bug. We've been struggling with it ever since enabling faction re-emergence, and nothing we've tried has worked to fix it.

[Lusitanio]

It's the known wandering re-emerge point bug. We've been struggling with it ever since enabling faction re-emergence, and nothing we've tried has worked to fix it.

Before, the re-emergence would happen in the same city as the message but now it doesn't. They revolted 4 times now and despite the message saying Athens the city was 1st Sparta, 2nd and 3rd Thermon and 4th had the message saying it was in Korinthos but the city was Sparta. Still, a full stack always appears on the place of the message.

[QuintusSertorius]

Before, the re-emergence would happen in the same city as the message but now it doesn't. They revolted 4 times now and despite the message saying Athens the city was 1st Sparta, 2nd and 3rd Thermon and 4th had the message saying it was in Korinthos but the city was Sparta. Still, a full stack always appears on the place of the message.

The stack appears where it is supposed to, because it has fixed co-ordinates. The re-emerge uses a different method; it's supposed to be by settlement, but as you've seen it doesn't always work.