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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    There's a couple posts I want to nominate, but since I agree with their content I won't nominate them so as to avoid any appearance of bias.
    Feel free to nominate whatever you like. Or, you can PM them to me and I'll nominate them if I don't find anything I particularly want to nominate this fortnight.

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    There is a specific rule against asking for votes, but it's also bad form to ask for nominations.
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    No one is asking for votes or nominations. Akar is simply offering to nominate Prodromos' choice(s) to avoid any suggestion of bias (though quite why Prod cares is a mystery).



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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    No one is asking for votes or nominations. Akar is simply offering to nominate Prodromos' choice(s) to avoid any suggestion of bias (though quite why Prod cares is a mystery).
    Exactly, thanks for clarifying that for me.

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    Welcome back to the team Aex!
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Yeoooo
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Lots of nominations coming from the George Floyd thread. Is is quality or quantity I wonder
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Yes

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Yer crusin fer a bruisin
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Is that a threat? MODSSSSS

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    OI M8 YOU GORRA LOICENSE FOR DAT CRUISIN'?

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    @Mods:

    Could you please not nominate my post in the current turn?

    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...1#post15934386

    I don't want to take part in this competition, as i wholeheartly regret to have wasted time in this discussion.

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    No problem, we won’t add it to the vote thread when the nominating period is up.
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Considering the issue risen at PotF 38 Vote thread, please see below

    First I removed Morticia's entry on user's request, and only because the case with copy/pasting is controversial and not yet defined by the rules; in normal cases I wouldn't have removed a entry once it got to the vote (but would do on request if still on nominations phase, of course). Similarly, I wouldn't have removed it only because of a "missing rule", just to be clear.

    However, it is absolutely true that we didn't consider copy/pasting in the rules, since copy/pasting per s isn't an issue I guess, while I agree it might be so if the entire nominated post is based on a copy/paste.

    Here is a draft of the proposed rule

    - Copy/pasting for the purpose of sourcing is fine, but a post which entirety is composed of a simple copy/paste isn't considered a valid nomination and will be discarded if nominated

    a bit of insight: the "copy/paste issue" has to be blatantly obvious for it to be confirmed, the PotF team cannot check any single nomination and anyways the issue should be very limited (so far only one case over 38 rounds).

    input is welcome, please do feel free to propose your version of the rule if you don't like/agree with mine
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Flinn View Post
    Considering the issue risen at PotF 38 Vote thread, please see below

    First I removed Morticia's entry on user's request, and only because the case with copy/pasting is controversial and not yet defined by the rules; in normal cases I wouldn't have removed a entry once it got to the vote (but would do on request if still on nominations phase, of course). Similarly, I wouldn't have removed it only because of a "missing rule", just to be clear.

    However, it is absolutely true that we didn't consider copy/pasting in the rules, since copy/pasting per s isn't an issue I guess, while I agree it might be so if the entire nominated post is based on a copy/paste.

    Here is a draft of the proposed rule

    - Copy/pasting for the purpose of sourcing is fine, but a post which entirety is composed of a simple copy/paste isn't considered a valid nomination and will be discarded if nominated

    a bit of insight: the "copy/paste issue" has to be blatantly obvious for it to be confirmed, the PotF team cannot check any single nomination and anyways the issue should be very limited (so far only one case over 38 rounds).

    input is welcome, please do feel free to propose your version of the rule if you don't like/agree with mine
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    As the apparent party pooper, copy/paste is a rare issue that somehow arise in the latest round. It was the post I was going to vote for only to realize last minute that it looked too professional. A Google search showed the entire post was a copy/paste. That kinda eliminates the purpose of the competition. There should of course be quotes from articles, speeches, posts, sources in general, etc.

    Wording of the rule looks fine. Could be shorther:

    A nominated post should:

    1. Be focused and relevant to the topic(s) being discussed.
    2. Demonstrate a well-developed, insightful and nuanced understanding of the topic(s) it is discussing.
    3. Be logically coherent, well organized and communicate its points effectively.
    4. Support its contentions with verifiable evidence, either in the form of links or references.
    5. Not be deliberately vexatious to other users.
    6. Not be composed of a copy/paste in its entirety.
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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    6. Not be composed of a copy/paste in its entirety.
    looks good, if no one will object it, in a few days I'll make this official

    thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinn View Post
    looks good, if no one will object it, in a few days I'll make this official

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    Default Re: Post of the Fortnight - Competition Commentary Thread

    for the records, I've updated The Rules with the addition proposed above at #117 by PointOfViewGun.
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