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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Bummer

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    Opposed
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    Rats, I thought I had a good chance to get your support for the first time.
    next time then.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    i am already wary of the jury principle, for historical reasons and because we still have people judging things they know all about in court. justice cant be a popularity contest.

    opposed.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Updated the OP

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    Still opposed
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    Having read the proposal and the replies thus far: Opposed.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Opposed.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Curia, the place where a better way of doing things are just opposed for the sake of opposing. This proposals have all the advantages of the current system minus all of the drawbacks.

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    Obviously most here seem to disagree with that assessment, and you should probably rethink the insulting implication of alleging they oppose just for the sake of opposing.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Seriously Pike, no hard feeling but if the majority of the active citizens in the curia still oppose to your proposal, it might be better to ask yourself if there isn't something wrong with it instead of considering they're all wrong and you're right. First step to wisdom

    Edit: that's the 2nd time in this thread you're posting tendencious "meanings". In post #21, you called us "rats". Now, you're insinuating that we just oppose for the sake of opposing. Remind me who was talking about higher standard of behaviour for citizens?
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Opposed.

    Obviously most here seem to disagree with that assessment, and you should probably rethink the insulting implication of alleging they oppose just for the sake of opposing.
    Seconded.

    @ Lift: Rats is sometimes used as a sign of frustration or disappointment much like "damn". I don't think he was calling anyone a rat.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Thanks for the clarification SF
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Also still opposed.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    I know no one is obligated to state why they opposed, but given the nature of the proposal, I would like to know why. Meaning, this is something that has never been tried before.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Opposed for the same reasons already mentioned on the previous page. The last version doesn't change much the original proposal. Hence my choice.
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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Lifthrasir View Post
    Opposed for the same reasons already mentioned on the previous page. The last version doesn't change much the original proposal. Hence my choice.
    Thee were a number of significant changes based on what was said on the first page. You only commented on the anonymity part, which was never significant and is now moot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lifthrasir View Post
    Based on the "stick and carrot" policy (without the carrot), your main idea was/is to encourage citizens making more referrals, in the hope that if they behave badly, there'zs a lot of cxhance that they get referred. Fair enough.
    By removing the principle of anonymity, don't you think that the opposite effect may result?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lifthrasir View Post
    Ok, noted. Thanks for the clarification.

    Thus far none of the objections previously stated was reaffirmed. Looking through your previous statements there is no indication which POV you actually agreed with.
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    Still opposed
    Since the opinions expressed by others were never reaffirmed, perhaps you could share in what ways the improve proposal failed to meet the concerns. Thanks in advance.

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    No I won't. As already said, I'm fine with the current system. I don't see a need to change it. Hence, I don't need to counter-propose something to your proposal.

    As far as I know, there's nothing that oblige me to justify my position. You asked why. I've answered. I think that shows a minimum of respect. Something that I can't see in your post above unfortunately. So don't complain if people don't will to develop why they're opposed to your proposal. Instead, the right attitude here would have been to highlight the changes, just in case if I and others who have stated their opposition here have missed something. Hope I have fully answered to your enquiries.

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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Lifthrasir View Post
    No I won't. As already said, I'm fine with the current system. I don't see a need to change it. Hence, I don't need to counter-propose something to your proposal...Hope I have fully answered to your enquiries.
    I wasn't asking for a counterproposal; just feedback. In a strange twist of irony, you answered my question. Earlier you stated an issue with the anonymity clause, so that is why I had this expression in the first place; Rats, I thought I had a good chance to get your support for the first time. next time then.

    Anyway, good to know that you like the current system and there isn't anything objectionable to the proposal itself. That's informative.

    Thanks!


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    Default Re: [Amendment] Censor Duty Act

    The Curator may Archived this proposal for now.

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