the calm down thread

[Richard the Lionheart]

If you want to be part of the conversation, restore the threads you deleted. I mean Aristocrat's and Godfrey's resignation, the Poll about yourself and all the other things you attempted to erase from our common memory as usually dictators do in imaginary worlds created by their fantasy.

Until then you cannot converse or pretend to and delete your opponents.

Anyway, I wish that you make some excellent posts today. I wish that you write brilliant retorts to your accusers, I wish you can post things for all to admire and hold in awe.

I wish this day is your best ever ever day on TWC.

Because it is your last day.

Even if it is my last day, I won't do so because it creates chaos and disorder. It's either keep those threads closed, or ban everyone. Either way I guess you support chaos and disorder when it is in your favor.

[Ronin]

Even if it is my last day, I won't do so because it creates chaos and disorder.

But sacking all the mods and admins created so much order didn't it ?

[Garbarsardar]

Even if it is my last day, I won't do so because it creates chaos and disorder. It's either keep those threads closed, or ban everyone. Either way I guess you support chaos and disorder when it is in your favor.

Respond to yourself, then:

Bottom line: I wish I had never been a part or member of TWC. And even more, I wish I had never served the corrupted mother****ers in staff. I made sacrifices for them, I made enemies because of them. I made enemies with people with whom I could have been friends if I was not part of staff. I wasted hours and days of my life moderating for them, and yet they treated me like ****, and TWC treated me like ****. I was one stupid dumbass. To those of you to whom I've been an ass, forgive me. Except Ummon; you can go **** yourself you racist piece of ****.

TWC is a waste of time. It's a Nazi camp. I've been wanting to leave for a long time, but I had hope, and that hope was ultimately crushed as Archer sold out his supporters and left them out to dry. I am never going back, whether they permaban my account as I requested or not. I said "**** you" and more to many moderators, and yet they still didn't permaban me. ****ing cowards.

I would encourage you guys to break away from TWC as well. Forget about it. There are better places, nicer places you can go. There are better things you can do with your time.

What is TWC ultimately? Due to the Nazi moderating and the retarded Curia, it's certainly not enjoyable. In fact, for some time, I have been nothing but disgusted by the behavior of the human beings that make up it's member and staff pool.

Ultimately, TWC is just a website for a $50 piece of software. It's owned by Ogre/Erik who then makes money off of it. That's it.

Ferrets, consider yourself lucky to have had your account deleted or permabanned. Some with you AP. I wish I was in your places. Both of you guys, forget about TWC. **** it up the ass and throw it into the garbage. I should have been like you guys and treated TWC like the piece of **** it was and is. But I was blind.

Now, I'm quite confident that many of you are interested to know what went down at TWC. I will post a letter here which should explain everything, if you were following the events from the outside. (If this get's deleted by the mods here who are also mods at TWC, then just PM me and I'll tell you everything again).


Ultimately, I decided to side with Archer just like LV and some others. I considered Archer a friend and as a good Admin, while I hated and still do hate the ****ing bastards that make up staff. They do nothing but abuse and harass people, treat people like ****, and play their imaginary power games. I would have to say that the only people within staff that were reasonable human beings were Archer and LV. Archer did have the support of ON, but Archer's ultimate decision proved that he is a selfish, fearful coward and that he is controlled by those below him. He is but a slave, a puppet.

Anyways, I'll probably show up here and post a bit here and there, but other than that, I'm done. You got any questions? Feel free to ask, I'll answer.

P.S. To those of you who are staff members there, and especially to those of you who are hex members there....**** you all. Go **** yourselves. I've seen the threads in HEX, I've seen it all. You are all worthless, spineless, pieces of ****.

On an even happier note, I have now been successfully permabanned from that hell-hole.

As I said:

I wish that you make some excellent posts today. I wish that you write brilliant retorts to your accusers, I wish you can post things for all to admire and hold in awe.

I wish this day is your best ever ever day on TWC.

Because it is your last day.

[Richard the Lionheart]

Respond to yourself, then:



As I said:

I wish that you make some excellent posts today. I wish that you write brilliant retorts to your accusers, I wish you can post things for all to admire and hold in awe.

I wish this day is your best ever ever day on TWC.

Because it is your last day.

To be honest, if all the removed staff members made a thread for themselves and posted something like that, I wouldn't call it chaos. I would call it emotions run high. Chaos is when certain displeased members decide to try their best to destroy a site because they didn't get what they wanted.

I'll address the above post:

Certainly the post above which was made by me at Anaganesse was highly emotional, in response to ill treatment I had felt I had recieved. Of course, I got even more emotional after discovering certain threads in HEX on that day of the overthrow, when I realized that everything HEX members had tried to teach me, that all the help which they were supposedly offering me, and all the friendship they had supposedly expressed was only fake, as behind me they made accusations and plans, without even giving me a chance for self defense. I guess I wasn't used to that nature of TWC yet. So yes, I was very emotional that day, and I think I was justified in feeling so, certainly, and it so appears that the HEX sympathized with me to some extent, as the posts in HEX seem to indicate.

I've had a chat with Evariste and he mentioned H&G.

Apparently he went through Hex and saw the threads about him (there are quite a few) and has, understandably, got somewhat upset. Anyway, I do not know what to do about this. He ranted about plotters and was angry ith everyone. Anyway, I shall increase his holiday for a week and asked Evariste to keep in contact with him and keep me posted. I've also told Evariste that he can reinstate him. I shall make him a Civitate now as he is far too volatile.

I thought that might of been the case, him seeing all the hex threads about him. No wonder he went ballistic.

No one is to blame. It's a fact of life and the problem lies with all of us as we simply were not honest enough with him. Sometimes sh.t happens.

OK. Maybe a silly question, but should he be made a Senatorii? If we unban him (if he wishes to come back as H&G) he will probably not have his Civitate rank - I hate politics like this...

Anyway, it cannot be denied that he put in a tremendous amount to Staff and I feel it wrong to deny him this rank, even with his current attitude to us. We should be magnanmous, even if the CDC and H&G cannot.

- Definately set H&G to Senatorii, he deserves it

Serve nothing? Its about giving someone who worked long hours for this site for months the badge he earned.

He did some pretty objectionable stuff, IMO, but he also put in a lot of work and his heart was in the right place. I guess this is a time for magnanimousness. It's not like Senatorii is some ultra-prestigious rank, plenty of total slackers have it.

I voted no. I think H&G did do a lot for staff and was generally a very hard working individual and had he resigned in better circumstances, I would of recommended him for Patrician (despite his competance, he did do his job). However, the manner in which he left was hardly worthy of any reward.

Normally I'd agree with you, but considering what he had seen in Hex, I think this explains his 'break down'.

So I don't know Garb. Feel free to post that specific post as much as you want. But at least I never tried to destroy this site because I didn't get what I wanted.

I became the worst moderator in the history of TWC and the most hated member in TWC when it was most convenient....one day ago, when ON gave me a little badge.

[Aristophanes]

Oh, and btw, what happened to my 'open letter to the administrators'? There were parts of that letter that I wanted to keep...you know...should a similar situation ever arise.

[Gaius Baltar]

Because it is your last day.

ohhh, scary. And as long as I dont have to read your mangled, illiterate and baseless posts, it will be my best day.

[RZZZA]

Garb is one of the best posters we have, he was one of the first to achieve max reputation. Why are you flaming him?

[Publius]

ohhh, scary. And as long as I dont have to read your mangled, illiterate and baseless posts, it will be my best day, you useless ********* up re*****.

Control yourself.

[HorseArcher]

ohhh, scary. And as long as I dont have to read your mangled, illiterate and baseless posts, it will be my best day, you useless ********* up re*****.

could you please stop? let's settle down already. first you guys go at Ogre's throat, then HG and then we are in a waiting period now, and now you guys go at each other's throat.

[Ronin]

could you please stop? let's settle down already. first you guys go at Ogre's throat, then HG and then we are in a waiting period now, and now you guys go at each other's throat.

We need all the admins and mod's back Horsearcher. Without them the whole place seems to be running riot. This is just testimony to how much we need the sacked admin and mod's reinstated. I can't see the situation improving if nothing is done.

[Kscott]

could you please stop? let's settle down already. first you guys go at Ogre's throat, then HG and then we are in a waiting period now, and now you guys go at each other's throat.

When the rats run out of cheese from where do they feed?

Though that quote is not really applicable at all to this situation.

[Aristophanes]

could you please stop? let's settle down already. first you guys go at Ogre's throat, then HG and then we are in a waiting period now, and now you guys go at each other's throat.

It's more Gaius Baltar going every which way spamming insults at other members.

[Garbarsardar]

ohhh, scary. And as long as I dont have to read your mangled, illiterate and baseless posts, it will be my best day, you useless ********* up re*****.

Please, take a step away from your keyboard. There is no need for this.
Take care
Garb.

[Gaius Baltar]

Please, take a step away from your keyboard. There is no need for this.
Take care
Garb.

Yes, there is a need. You are a fraud, nothing more than a cut-and -paste artist who disguises his lack of knowledge with semantics. Without a doubt, you have been the underlying cause of trouble on this board beginning with the trial of the Black Prince, the removal of Civitate voting rights, the attempted coup on Archer, and now the impotent response to an a more than justified change of board administration. You could not debate your way out of a real life grocery store, much less a classroom. Your reputation proceeds you, and that is about all. You can make all the useless threats you want, but without your admin powers or your buddies your just another barking poodle.

If Ogre ever grows a pair and gets rid of you and your band of left-wing, British homosexuals it will be the best thing that ever happened to TWC.

God willing...

[Kscott]

ON dropped the current staff members for being excessively political, not getting anything done in reality other than pointless arguing in staff and the curia, excessive anti-ON behavior, the treatment of Besim, and of course the whole overthrow of Archer thing back in October.

1)excessive political? I doubt you have any examples. By political you mean you dont like them?

2)Nothing done? Perhaps you did not notice the whole forum was restructured and content was expanded in general. What more do you want? Obviously they did something right, they made this site the most active it has ever been. But never mind, you wouldnt know, you were banned while they were running things. And the Curia, really its been dead for a long time and when it was arguing it was doing legislation. If a legislative body did not argue something would be horribly wrong.

3)anti-ON and anti-Besim are direct results of their own actions

4)overthrow? Petitioning that Archer is incompetent is overthrow?

But never mind, dont answer. Its obvious that your the same old Honor and Glory. Posting things that sound like facts, but are infact the furthest thing from it.

[bigfootedfred]

ON dropped the current staff members for being excessively political, not getting anything done in reality other than pointless arguing in staff and the curia, excessive anti-ON behavior, the treatment of Besim, and of course the whole overthrow of Archer thing back in October.

Well.

Theres certainly nothing to prove they got 'anything done'.
since you apparently deleted most of the threads related to it.

For example my thread, long before this whole mess as to the mambo client giving bad Meta tag info. right here in this forum it was.
They fixed it within hours of my post.

But i understand your deleting that thread.
Cant have any evidence the former staff did 'get things done' can we.

[The Walrus]

Thats ********. The staff moderated very well. How is that not getting anything done? What was wrong with the site? No one was excessively political. What I'm wondering is why they put you as admin.

1) Your a hypocrite

2) A power ********

3) you have broken the ToS numerous times-suspension bypassing, flaming/trolling, etc

[The Walrus]

delete

[Aristophanes]

The problem mainly is Ogre not looking at Honor and Glory's background well enough. It appears 99% of the community hates him. Most of the community likes the mods who got fired, which also include some very great posters- which is why we are mad and flipping out.

Nah, I don't think the most important aspect is that H&G is or isn't everyone's most loved forum member: the real issue is that ON went behind everyone's back to put someone in a position for which he did not have the requisite experience, and to fire more than a dozen members who had, between them, decades of experience. That's the issue.

[The Walrus]

Nah, I don't think the most important aspect is that H&G is or isn't everyone's most loved forum member: the real issue is that ON went behind everyone's back to put someone in a position for which he did not have the requisite experience, and to fire more than a dozen members who had, between them, decades of experience. That's the issue.

Your right