Cornell U. welcome package: check your privilege

[Basil II the B.S]

Let's take a look at how our dear liberals are managing education:
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11328

According to the document, if you speak “accented English” you are marginalized or oppressed compared to “‘proper’ English” speakers who are privileged. If your parents are married or “in a heterosexual relationship” you are privileged while “divorced; LGBTQ parent; domestic partnership” and “single parent” individuals are oppressed.




If you are “temporarily able-bodied,” you must have privilege according to the sheet as “people with a physical, mental, emotional, or learning disability” are oppressed. The document also lists “age” as a category, ranking those in their “30s to early 50s” privileged compared to “younger and older” demographics.


Altogether, if an incoming female Cornell student is a racial minority, has an accent, is in their late teens or early 20s, and was raised by a single parent, they are “marginalized or oppressed” in at least five ways despite their background, socioeconomic status, or life experiences.

Note that according to the postmodernist approach, which is where these ideas come from, the value of your opinion depends on the scale of your privilege. Hence if you are a (according to this list):
Cisgendered, white heterosexual,Christian, middle class, fit, man, with a functioning family and a happy relationship, while also speaking without an accent, your opinion is less valid than those belong to the category of the oppressed (by you).

This is ''Ivy League'', the creme of world education.

Is it worthy being in debt until your late 30s for this liberal ?

[Dante Von Hespburg]

This is absolutely dumb and the reverse of everything liberalism is meant to stand for. I get that in high academia, there is some relevance in 'researching' and theorizing approaches such as this, but when it comes to actual policy implementation its consistently mind-blowing that certain groups or people think this a good idea. Even without today's political context of a (understandable) backlash to such things. Its where i'll agree that liberal extremists (as this is what i would deem them) go way too far, for no real gain and actually cause more hurt than help by tarring then other liberal ideals and groups with the same brush in peoples minds. This is slightly ranty i know- i've had whiskey , but it makes me rather annoyed.

[Pontifex Maximus]

This is absolutely dumb and the reverse of everything liberalism is meant to stand for. I get that in high academia, there is some relevance in 'researching' and theorizing approaches such as this, but when it comes to actual policy implementation its consistently mind-blowing that certain groups or people think this a good idea. Even without today's political context of a (understandable) backlash to such things. Its where i'll agree that liberal extremists (as this is what i would deem them) go way too far, for no real gain and actually cause more hurt than help by tarring then other liberal ideals and groups with the same brush in peoples minds. This is slightly ranty i know- i've had whiskey , but it makes me rather annoyed.

You give me faith that the left is not entirely run off the extremist cliff. Thank you.

actually, as a white, cis, straight etc man, society does value you more, for no other reason than who you are, not what you achieved. but glad the people who never where on the wrong side of this have something to whine about. poor oppressed white male majority.

You do the exact opposite. Your entire argument is hilariously contradicted by affirmative action, policies on the books (as seen in the OP here) and yet you continue on proposing that somehow anyone who isn't a straight white male isn't actually discrimited against in the university system in this day and age. This thesis is absolutely wrong by every possible metric of measurement and every possible source of information except that this cuts against the ludicrous narrative that somehow everyone but straight white males are discriminated against on the OVERWHELMINGLY leftist campuses of 2018. Your arguments are nothing short of absolutely delusional.

[95thrifleman]

I speak with a Lancashire accent, I demand my rights!

[Cyclops]

OP seems to be a bit of nonsense, maybe try harder?

On the topic of privilege, its an awkward way of describing unfairness. Everyone can be treated unfairly but it is more of a problem for some people.

My nephew has some Australian Aboriginal blood. Like several of my nephews he's good at football, but when I mention it people go "oh yeah, aboriginal". Its very sight racism to assume someone would be good at football because of perceived race: the other nephews don't get comments like "oh yeah, 95% Irish ancestry, must be good at football". My Japanese relatives get assumptions about being good at maths (my niece is not good at maths), my Jewish relatives get assumptions about money, and my Lebanese /Palestinian relatives don't bring up their ancestry much.

I'm white with a "good" accent, "good" education, pale skin, male, tall, not ugly. I've been invited places you wouldn't believe, SAS barracks for a dinner, private clubs, I've had amazing job offers (and had the luxury of turning them down, I get to work a job I love), visited billionaires etc. I did not see dark skinned or other disadvantaged people around me get these opportunities.

I speak with a Lancashire accent, I demand my rights!

I have a mate in Man, never complained about disadvantage but I got her drunk once and she admitted she felt she'd missed jobs because of her accent. When I worked in London the sheer amount of hatred was stunning, racism, bigotry, even regional hate. The Londoners hated the Scots almost as much as they hated the French and Irish, and the Northerners only a little less: the silent treatment that the Mancunian barman got from the St John's Wood crowd drove him out of the job.

[The spartan]

Uh, do we have a source to this other than "Campusreform.org"?

[Basil II the B.S]

This is absolutely dumb and the reverse of everything liberalism is meant to stand for. I get that in high academia, there is some relevance in 'researching' and theorizing approaches such as this, but when it comes to actual policy implementation its consistently mind-blowing that certain groups or people think this a good idea. Even without today's political context of a (understandable) backlash to such things. Its where i'll agree that liberal extremists (as this is what i would deem them) go way too far, for no real gain and actually cause more hurt than help by tarring then other liberal ideals and groups with the same brush in peoples minds. This is slightly ranty i know- i've had whiskey , but it makes me rather annoyed.

Oh Dante, you are just saying that because you scored 15/15 on the privilege scale, aren't you? That would invalidate your opinion. Unless we count Scottish as ''accented English''. I love how there's a double penalty for white people and Western Europeans.

Remember the old ''let's value people as invididuals regardless of race and creed''? Scratch that.

I speak with a Lancashire accent, I demand my rights!

Yeah I'm not sure if that counts either. Too white, too Western European.

Uh, do we have a source to this other than "Campusreform.org"?

They made the report, so no.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

7\15? Never realised that I rank so high in the oppression olympics. Better move to the US ad cry about being oppressed.
Absolute madness.

[Basil II the B.S]

7\15? Never realised that I rank so high in the oppression olympics. Better move to the US ad cry about being oppressed.
Absolute madness.

Are you Jewish? You could demand a specific category for historical systemic oppression.

[Geleco]

University departments may as well be independent, Ivy League or not.

This is typical bleeding-heart liberal college campus crap. Not sure why it warranted a thread.

[Basil II the B.S]

The forum is dying and it's a political trend in universities. Why not?

[HannibalExMachina]

actually, as a white, cis, straight etc man, society does value you more, for no other reason than who you are, not what you achieved. but glad the people who never where on the wrong side of this have something to whine about. poor oppressed white male majority.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

actually, as a white, cis, straight etc man, society does value you more, for no other reason than who you are, not what you achieved. but glad the people who never where on the wrong side of this have something to whine about. poor oppressed white male majority.

As a level 8 oppressed person I believe that I have the right to say that this whole thing is bollocks. So unless you are a level 9 or above oppressed person, my opinion is more important than yours, and I say that you are wrong. Please take your privilige elsewhere.

[HannibalExMachina]

delete plz

[Heathen Hammer]

It is safe to say that there is no such thing as "white privilege" unless you are one of those irrational people who think that they are "educated" because they have some professionally useless non-STEM degree.
"Social science" courses in university are the educational equivalent of Herbalife. It is nothing more then a form of scam for universities to earn quick cash from less intelligent students who actually get such degrees so that they either have to start over again or enter the exciting world of working in fast-food places, since nobody wants to hire someone with "feminism studies" degree.
Which would be okay if this pseudo-scientific anti-intellectual nonsense didn't spill into other course loads.

actually, as a white, cis, straight etc man, society does value you more, for no other reason than who you are, not what you achieved. but glad the people who never where on the wrong side of this have something to whine about. poor oppressed white male majority.

So as a white heterosexual male, where do I apply for my monthly privilege check?

[Geleco]

Funny thing is, I agree with the person who made this nonsense. Privilege exists and must be combated.

Privilege is not combated by being condescending to college students who will form the intellectual vanguard of the next century. That is how the alt-right began.

[HannibalExMachina]

Funny thing is, I agree with the person who made this nonsense. Privilege exists and must be combated.

Privilege is not combated by being condescending to college students who will form the intellectual vanguard of the next century. That is how the alt-right began.

imagine that, an upscale university educating on social issues. will no one think of the white children!

As a level 8 oppressed person I believe that I have the right to say that this whole thing is bollocks. So unless you are a level 9 or above oppressed person, my opinion is more important than yours, and I say that you are wrong. Please take your privilige elsewhere.

you making light of oppression because you never experienced it shows quite well where the bollocks is buried. sorry, you aint no mel brooks.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

you making light of oppression because you never experienced it shows quite well where the bollocks is buried. sorry, you aint no mel brooks.

And there you go imposing your opinion on me and ignoring mine, just because I'm a level 8 oppressed person. Woe is me!

[Basil II the B.S]

German vs Jewish? He gets a -7000000000000 penalty.

Btw, this is actually serious. In the context of your discussion, Hannibal's opinion would be automatically invalidated by his being German.

[Geleco]

If you think some corny packet is the best way to educate rich kids about privilege then you have a very different view of education than I do.