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    First thanks for the great work on this mod, I reinstalled SS to check it out, but I have to admit I have a soft spot for BGR, I almost cant play Medieval 2 without it, so I have to ask if there is a BGR version compatible with this mod? is there any demand for BGR to be included? it could be BGR IV, V or even III, Im not picky.
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    Default Re: BGR for SSHIP?

    BGR is not included in SSHIP and is not compatible (or doesn't work).
    As Byg is not active anymore and as a permission has to be granted to be able to use BGR in another mod/submod, I'm afraid that it won't be implemented.
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    Default Re: BGR for SSHIP?

    As far as I know byg already gave permission to include his mod in other mods and even uploaded a guide on how to do it, and since this is not a separate mod but is part of SS I highly doubt it would ever be a problem, else why would be upload a guide specifically for that?

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    BGRIII is partially included in SS6.4.
    In the BGR forum (and unless I'm mistaken) Byg has specified that any use of his work needs his permission.
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    I've been an avid player of the BGR for years. I've perceived it as the pinnacle of historical modding: what can you represent with the tools provided by the Medieval 2 engine. However, I've recently played the Titanium with BGR_IVE and some new thoughts concerning the BGR and the SSHIP popped to my mind. My new opinion is presented below. In general, I think that the SSHIP does the trick of providing an immersive experience better than the BGR does. Some insights concerning particular modifications:

    Centralization of the system of political power: generals are losing their skills (Loyalty, Piety, Command) as the kingdom grows (more precisely: the number of settlements). This makes the game more challenging for the player for longer time because it counters the snow-ball effect. I think, however, that it can be implemented in a simpler yet more sophisticated way. In particular, the Loyalty mechanism should prevent it: read this thread describing the solutions that are partly implemented in the SSHIP. Unfortunately, much more work is needed for a full implementation of this vision, especially balancing of the frequency of traits appearing.

    Army Field Morale: I think this mechanism is a bit redundant because the experienced BGR-player rarely gets on very long expeditions. Yes, a casual player would go for a conquest spree spending many turns in the field - and this system does constrain such behaviour. But such players don't pick the BGR, they play simpler mods. For the others it’s a rather cumbersome system as you need to check traits very often just to learn if a general has not crossed the limit of being in the field (eg. traveling between settlements). The same situation concerns the supply system. I think it's better to have a simpler version that produces similar outcomes: easier to grasp, more intuitive to play. The SSHIP 092/096 has a crude version of this system while the new 097 version (see description of the system here) will feature a similar but more straighforward system. I hope it'll find a sweet spot: realistic but easy to grasp for the player.

    Supply System
    – it requires the player to check traits a pretty each general very often and to make tricks to avoid consequences. A supply system that simply takes some money out of treasury (scaling with the size of the forces, perhaps exponentially) is much better: the player just know that sending an army is costly (I've made an argument for this in this entry) but won't spend much time. This is already present in the SSHIP 092 (besieging costs), and one of the tmodelsk sumbmod options introduces also costs for campaigning. The new version of SSHIP will have significant supply costs that can be lowered by skills of the general and his staff (ancillaries). This system and costs incurred are clearly reported to the player: a message will pop out each time a general starts generating supply cost and a traits will indicate how high they are.

    Limitation on the foreign expedition as the faction growth (WarCouncillor system)
    – it kills the role-playing with the other generals. In big faction you simply disregards any other general than FL/FH. A more flexible system is better, IMO. In the SSHIP 096 there is a "ministerial office system" (ancillaries available in limited number, depending on the buildings available to the faction and stage of the game). The aim is thus achieved through lower Loyalty and high costs of foreign expedition (the suppy costs mentioned above) if there's no right general. Ie. the player can send any general but if this is a low-loyalty he'd rebel on the way, if he doesn't have LogisticalSkill (or equivalent) he'll incur huge costs on treasury, and if he's a BadCommander the troops will lose morale very fast.

    Additional costs:


    • Recruitment prices: it's not so easy to foresee the additional costs, the player has to count each time what he's going to pay (add: for a unit, for cavalry, for elites etc.). It's cumbersome, it'd be better to simply adjust the upfront prices of the units. SSHIP: units are more expensive, with the elites much more. The structure of the costs (upkeep-recruitment ratio, prices of elites - militia etc.) are more logical. No hidden costs - the player just pays what he sees.
    • General’s wealth system – way too cumbersome, you need to check traits and count everytime if there's a risk of default, you need to make tricks to avoid bankruptcy etc. SSHIP: no such system.
    • One-time financial outlays at Coming of Age, marriages, refill of baggage wagon – these are good mechanisms as that bolster up the worth of any existing general. It makes the player more careful about generals (eg. not sending them to a sure death just because he's got one nasty trait) as new ones will incur costs. These are simple, easy to grasp for the player and transparent measures: you know what’s going on and you don’t need to scan through the traits every time. SSHIP: costs for new generals (CoA, recruited, married, adopted) introduced, and also for marriages. Clear messages (either through historical info or through the traits) are also there for the player to get his bearings.
    • Scutage / taxing the nobles – no needed. You give money with one hand and takes it away with the other. The sum is usually 0. Why to bother? It' historical only for England in 12th century, afaik, not for all Medieval 2 world. SSHIP: no such a system.
    • Crusade / jihad costs – they’re simple and make a decision to go on a long crusade voyage costly. It conveys the historical problem: any crusade would drain the resources out of Europe (while providing for potential some benefits if the crusade is successful). It's good for the gameplay as it creates a real decision-situation for the player: would you risk bad relations with the pope or lose money? Or maybe you need higher authority for the king? SSHIP: additional costs introduced with clear information for the player.
    • Inflation related to the faction size – it’s welcome as it limits the snow-ball effect of big or adavanced empire. However, I think it's better to do through exponential costs of garrisons to keep the far-away cities under control or through a normal M2TW mechanism of corruption in those cities. However, I'm not fundametally against it.


    Recrutiment limitations:

    • WarCouncil / Professional Training Staff system – very cumbersome: you need to check which general has it, transfer it from one to another etc. Furthermore, there're two ancillaries fulfiling similar functions. And WarCouncillor may even be only a trait (for the FL, the junior one), not an ancillary. You need to check and get your bearings all the time. Very complicated while it should be intuitive and simple. SSHIP: not introduced but the aims (lower availability of elite troops, recruitment only by some trusted generals) is achieved through other means: the re-fill of the recruitment pools of the elite units is much slower, some ministerial offices have big discounts on the prices that make only some generals good as recruiters.
    • Only 3/4 places to recruit in a big faction (as there’re 3/4 PTS), with castles having higher requirements (both PTS and WC) – too much of artificial limitation. In the game it should be natural. In the SSHIP this is simply through the availability of the castles as the player has much incentives to re-built castles to be money-making cities. Besides, it forces the player to use most of the time crappy units what kills the game experience. It's better done in the SSHIP - through elite troops low regeneration of pools and very (high) prices for the best units. I think the SSHIP solution gives such a choice as, eg., feudal heavy cav is 4-times more expensive than a decent infantry.
    • Religion requirements – good for the gameplay as the player needs to take care of the situation in his provinces. I think it should be done for the "factional" units but not for all units. I don't think the "religious" units should have such limitations (as it's now in the SSHIP).


    Smaller issues:

    • Cohesive Fighting Unit – it negates the role of a good if not successful fight. Thus while it may be impact well on the AI performance, it's bad for the player experience (he'd think "why should I play this battle well if the AI will regenerate all the losses?). At the minimum, it should be much lower than 70% (eg. 30%). SSHIP: not implemented: good fight and incurring losses on the enemy are always rewarded for the player.
    • Over Confidence Trait – the incentive for the player to actually fight the battles should be positive, not negative. Eg. the player should chose to fight manually because he want a good trait for his general, not fearing a bad one. SSHIP: many, many triggers for good traits and ancillaries for fighting as underdog. The opposite is almost entirely not rewarded.
    • Crime&Punishment – I’ve failed to see how the system is either improving the gameplay or adds much to the historical flavour. Furthermore, it's perhaps not historical in (most?) of the places and times. Very cumbersome to manage by the player - one needs to check traits very often. SSHIP: not implemented.


    All in all, I think the SSHIP (perhaps with a few tmodelsk tweaks) provides a better gameplay experience. If somebody is interested in the matter, I've written a review of the SSHIP, it's still relevant.


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    Last edited by Jurand of Cracow; May 20, 2020 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Info on what's available in the SSHIP 096+patches
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    Default Re: BGR for SSHIP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    Limitation on the foreign expedition as the faction growth (WarCouncillor system) – it kills the role-playing with the other generals. In big faction you simply disregards any other general than FL/FH. A more flexible system is better, and now it is in the 0.9.6 with some of the "high offices".

    • Cohesive Fighting Unit – it negates the role of a good if not successful fight. Thus while it may be impact well on the AI performance, it's bad for the player experience (he'd think "why should I play this battle well if the AI will regenerate all the losses?). At the minimum, it should be much lower than 70% (eg. 30%).
    • Over Confidence Trait – the incentive for the player to actually fight the battles should be positive, not negative. Eg. the player should chose to fight manually because he want a good trait for his general, not fearing a bad one.
    Some explanation how the SSHIP will achieve these goals without the BGR complexity:
    - the traits needed for a good general (eg. Chivalry to be able to make the the settlements grow) will be awarded only if the player choses to fight manually and with inferior numbers. Also lost battles may provide good traits if they're fought with inferior strenght. I've already modified some triggers in this way, and I'll continue.
    - conquering a settlement (ideally: each one) will grant a title "Conqueror" providing -1 Loyalty (besides +1 Authority and +1 Popularity). That means that the player will rather try to make conquests with the Factions Leader - as Byg wanted it to be. Otherwised, a few conquered settlements and the general has 0 Loyalty and rebels. Or the general turns into usurper (due to high Authority).
    - the player can give a Ministerial office and a Provincial Title for the general that is supposed to conduct military operations.

    Actually, the Army Field Morales is in the SSHIP: if you stay longer in the enemy lands, you'll lose morale.
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    Default Re: BGR for SSHIP?

    Furthering the topic, the Army Field Morale system that will be included in the SSHIP in the next version is below.

    In the current version of the SSHIP, there is a similar system but simpler and it concerns all difficulties. It lowers the morale while abroad and makes it higher while at home.

    Description:

    Army morale system[note that this system works only at the Very Hard campaign difficulty]
    Each general has a trait describing current state of morale of troops under his command. If they have been in the homelands for some time, they’re likely to be Ready for Action. If the general is a Good Commander or Inspiring Speaker, they may even be Eager To Fight. In both cases they will have good morale in battles.
    Once the army moves, it will lose morale after a few turns of marching and the troops will became Weary. It happens faster if they’re in enemy lands or at the sea, or they conduct a siege, or they lead by a Bad Commander. If they do campaign for very long time, they will became Despondent, Undisciplined and even Mutinous. It will result in lower morale in battles and slower movement on the campaign map. The general will also (temporarily) lose Loyalty and Command.
    Anyway, for the troops to recover their morale, the army has to come back to the homelands and rest a bit, preferably in a settlement. Alternatively, it may fight ferociously stronger enemies – the victories will buoy up the spirit of every soldier!

    The trait
    Code:
    ;=========================================================================================;----- Army Campaign Morale -----------------------------
    ;--------------------------------------------------------
    ;--- levels(points): 1(4),2(8), 3(12), 4(16),5(20),6(24),7(28),8(32),9(36)
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trait ArmyCampaignMorale
        Characters family
    
    
        Level ACM_Bent_On_Glory
            Description ACM_Bent_On_Glory_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Bent_On_Glory_effects_desc
            Threshold 1
    
    
            Effect Loyalty -2
            Effect TroopMorale 3
    
    
        Level ACM_Eager_To_Fight
            Description ACM_Eager_To_Fight_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Eager_To_Fight_effects_desc
            LoseMessage  ACM_Eager_To_Fight_lose_desc
            Threshold 5
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale 2
    
    
        Level ACM_Ready_For_Action
            Description ACM_Ready_For_Action_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Ready_For_Action_effects_desc
            Threshold 9
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale 1
            
        Level ACM_Troops_Weary
            Description ACM_Troops_Weary_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Troops_Weary_effects_desc
            Threshold 13
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -1
            Effect MovementPoints -1
            
        Level ACM_Troops_Despondent
            Description ACM_Troops_Despondent_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Troops_Despondent_effects_desc
            Threshold 17
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -2
            Effect MovementPoints -2
    
    
        Level ACM_Troops_Undisciplined
            Description ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_effects_desc
            GainMessage ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_gain_desc
            Threshold 21
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -3
            Effect MovementPoints -3
            Effect Command -1
            Effect Loyalty -1
    
    
        Level ACM_Troops_Desperate
            Description ACM_Troops_Desperate_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Troops_Desperate_effects_desc
            GainMessage ACM_Troops_Desperate_gain_desc
            Threshold 25
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -4
            Effect MovementPoints -4
            Effect Command -2
            Effect Loyalty -2
    
    
        Level ACM_Troops_Mutinous
            Description ACM_Troops_Mutinous_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Troops_Mutinous_effects_desc
            GainMessage ACM_Troops_Mutinous_gain_desc
            Threshold 29
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -5
            Effect MovementPoints -5
            Effect Command -3
            Effect Loyalty -3
    
    
        Level ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away
            Description ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away_desc
            EffectsDescription ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away_effects_desc
            Threshold 33
    
    
            Effect TroopMorale -5
            Effect MovementPoints -5
            Effect Command -3
            Effect Loyalty -3
    The in-game descriptions for the player
    Code:
    {ACM_Bent_On_Glory}    Army Bent On Glory{ACM_Bent_On_Glory_desc} This General is inspiring his troops through great victories. They will follow him anywhere, even on the longest, hardest adventures. His Glory hunting is causing suspicion and resentment at home and creates dangerous thoughts about going his way alone.
    {ACM_Bent_On_Glory_effects_desc} -2 Loyalty, +3 Morale for troops on the battlefield.  Troops likely to keep their morale high for a long time.
    {ACM_Eager_To_Fight}    Troops Eager To Fight
    {ACM_Eager_To_Fight_desc} His troops are eager to fight for him in a long campaign.
    {ACM_Eager_To_Fight_effects_desc} +2 Morale for troops on the battlefield. Troops likely to keep their morale high for a long time.
    {ACM_Eager_To_Fight_lose_desc} Strike while the iron is hot! This General is inspiring his troops, through great victories, they will follow him anywhere, even on the longest, hardest adventures!
    {ACM_Ready_For_Action}    Troops Ready For Action
    {ACM_Ready_For_Action_desc} His troops are ready to fight for him in a campaign.
    {ACM_Ready_For_Action_effects_desc} +1 Morale for troops on the battlefield
    {ACM_Troops_Weary}    Troops Weary
    {ACM_Troops_Weary_desc} The troops need to recuperate their strenghts by resting in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A great battle won would make miracles to their morale, though.
    {ACM_Troops_Weary_effects_desc} -1 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -1 movement point
    {ACM_Troops_Despondent}    Troops Despondent
    {ACM_Troops_Despondent_desc} The army needs to rest in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A great battle won would make miracles to their morale, though.
    {ACM_Troops_Despondent_effects_desc} -2 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -2 movement point
    {ACM_Troops_Undisciplined}    Troops Undisciplined
    {ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_desc}Years on active service has taken it's toll. The army needs to rest in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A great battle won would make miracles to their morale, though.
    {ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_effects_desc} -3 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -3 movement point\n -1 Command, -1 Loyalty
    {ACM_Troops_Undisciplined_gain_desc}The troops need to recuperate their strenghts!
    {ACM_Troops_Desperate}    Troops Desperate
    {ACM_Troops_Desperate_desc}Many years away from home have eroded this army's native values and discipline to a severe extent. It needs to rest in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A battle won would also help to recover morale.
    {ACM_Troops_Desperate_effects_desc}-4 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -4 movement point\n -2 Command, -2 Loyalty
    {ACM_Troops_Desperate_gain_desc}Many years away from home have eroded this army's native values and discipline to a severe extent. It lost it's fighting value and need to recuperate.
    {ACM_Troops_Mutinous}    Troops Mutinous
    {ACM_Troops_Mutinous_desc}This army has not returned home for many years. It needs to rest in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A battle won would also help to recover morale.
    {ACM_Troops_Mutinous_effects_desc}-5 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -5 movement point\n -3 Command, -3 Loyalty
    {ACM_Troops_Mutinous_gain_desc}This army has not returned home for many years. As a matter of fact, it's unlikely to return at all.
    {ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away}    Too Many Years Away
    {ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away_desc}This army has not returned home for many years. It needs to rest in home lands, and even better in a settlement. A battle won would also help to recover morale.
    {ACM_Too_Many_Years_Away_effects_desc}-5 Morale for troops on the battlefield, -5 movement point\n -3 Command, -3 Loyalty
    The triggers:
    Code:
    ;========================================================================================= Army Campaign Morale;----- Army Campaign Morale ---------------------------
    ;--- levels(points): 1(1),2(5) - 3(9) - 4(13),5(17),6(21),7(25),8(29),9(33)
    
    
        
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------- ACM safety valves
    Trigger ACM_Safety_In_Case_of_Bug_Min
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
        
     Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 1
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 9 Chance 100
        
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Safety_In_Case_of_Bug_Max
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 8    ; level 9 is currently not used
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -4 Chance 100
    
    
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------- ACM decrease at home (cumulative triggers)
    Trigger ACM_Improve_From_High_Value_AtHome
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 5
            and not InEnemyLands
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -2 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Improve_From_High_Value_AtHome_Resting
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 5
            and not InEnemyLands
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
            and RemainingMPPercentage > 90
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -2 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Home_Improve_In_Settlement
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 3
            and EndedInSettlement
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
            and Treasury > 0                       ; the kingdom is able pay the troops for ease they woes
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Home_Improve_In_Settlement_Resting
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 3
            and not InEnemyLands
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
            and RemainingMPPercentage > 80
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1  Chance  100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Home_Improve_GoodCommander
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 2    ; goes to level "Eager Troops"
            and not InEnemyLands
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
            and Trait GoodCommander > 0
            and Trait FitForOffice > 1            ; not insane or ill
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1 Chance 50
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Home_Improve_Before_Expedition_GoodSpeaker
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 2
            and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 3
            and not InEnemyLands
            and not EndedInEnemyZOC
            and Trait InspiringSpeaker > 1
            and Trait FitForOffice > 1
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1 Chance 33
    
    
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------- ACM decrease due to battles won
    Trigger ACM_Improve_Clear_Victory
        WhenToTest PostBattle
    
    
        Condition IsGeneral
              and WonBattle
              and BattleOdds < 1
              and BattleSuccess >= clear
              and PercentageEnemyKilled > 40
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 1            ; may get to Bent on Glory, especially if other triggers fire
              and CharacterIsLocal
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -2 Chance 100
        
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Improve_Average_Victory
        WhenToTest PostBattle
    
    
        Condition IsGeneral
              and WonBattle
              and BattleOdds < 1
              and BattleSuccess >= average
              and PercentageEnemyKilled > 40
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 1
              and CharacterIsLocal
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -2 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Improve_Close_Victory
        WhenToTest PostBattle
    
    
        Condition IsGeneral
              and WonBattle
              and BattleOdds < 1.4
              and PercentageEnemyKilled > 40
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 1
              and CharacterIsLocal
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Improve_Any_Victory
        WhenToTest PostBattle
    
    
        Condition IsGeneral
              and WonBattle
              and PercentageEnemyKilled > 40
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 1
              and CharacterIsLocal
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -1 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Improve_SettlementCapture
        WhenToTest GeneralCaptureSettlement
    
    
        Condition CharacterIsLocal
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale > 1
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale -2 Chance 100
    
    
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------- ACM increase (cumulative!)
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_Troops_Moving
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 6      ; moving won't make troops mutinous
            and RemainingMPPercentage < 80
            and FactionIsLocal
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 1 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_Troops_Abroad
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 8
            and InEnemyLands                         ; also at sea
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4        
    
    
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 1 Chance 50
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_BadCommander
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 8
            and InEnemyLands
            and Trait NaturalMilitarySkill < 1
            and Trait BadCommander > 0              ; also low Military / Pagan education is thus taken into account
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 1 Chance 50
        
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_EnemyContact
        WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    
        Condition Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 8
            and InEnemyLands
            and EndedInEnemyZOC                  ; also besieging
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 1 Chance 50
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_AnyDefeat
        WhenToTest PostBattle
            
        Condition IsGeneral
              and not WonBattle
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 8
              and CharacterIsLocal
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 2 Chance 100
    
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger ACM_Deteriorate_Defeat_Woeful
        WhenToTest PostBattle
            
        Condition IsGeneral
              and not WonBattle
              and BattleOdds > 1.2
              and Trait ArmyCampaignMorale < 8
              and CharacterIsLocal
            and I_EventCounter DifficultyLevel = 4
            
        Affects ArmyCampaignMorale 2 Chance 100
    Last edited by Jurand of Cracow; March 07, 2020 at 02:27 AM.

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