Enemies of the People? Trump's Assault on the Press

[swabian]

In Alex's defense, at least he is funny

If stupid people do follow this drugged-out lunatic and take action, then he is a problem.

[Aexodus]

Jones is a piece of who does not deserve a platform nor a voice.

And that kids, is why we have the first amendment.

[Gaidin]

And that kids, is why we have the first amendment.

Except they'are not suing him re: First Amendment. Defamation is a totally different issue and it is Alex Jones' fault for crossing that line enough for making such a civilian case relevant.

[Aexodus]

His whole "I was only exercising muh freedom of speech" shtick will hopefully not help him with the lawsuit. He deserves to be sued out of existence.

It's not a guarantee in certain situations and sane people should realize he crossed that line by inspiring violence...maybe not directly but his voice has caused people to commit violence and harassment. He also has defamed everyone (not protected by first amendment) in both Newtown and Parkland. Hence why he does not deserve a platform. He knows he did too...which is why he cowardly retracted everything after the pizzeria shooting.

Except they'are not suing him re: First Amendment. Defamation is a totally different issue and it is Alex Jones' fault for crossing that line enough for making such a civilian case relevant.

I agree that if found guilty of defamation he shoukd face the penalty, but people not wanting to allow him a platform at all is the reason 1st amendment exists.

[swabian]

I agree that if found guilty of defamation he shoukd face the penalty, but people not wanting to allow him a platform at all is the reason 1st amendment exists.

Look at the video above. The guy is obviously crazy and highly irrational. He cannot remotely be compared to BBC or CNN. Those channels have their flaws, but it's not nearly as outlandish as what this turd produces. This is interesting as a weird phenomenon, but no source of reliable information. I agree with the commentators above. He should be sued out of existence.

[Aexodus]

Look at the video above. The guy is obviously crazy and highly irrational. He cannot remotely be compared to BBC or CNN. Those channels have their flaws, but it's not nearly as outlandish as what this turd produces. This is interesting as a weird phenomenon, but no source of reliable information. I agree with the commentators above. He should be sued out of existence.

I’m not disagreeing with you. He should be sued.

But his irrationality or crazy conspiracies have nothing to do with it, if you think being crazy and irrational is grounds for lawsuit that’s an interesting understanding of due process.

And whatever he does, he’s entitled to a platform like you and me, no matter how outlandish the crap he spews.

[TheDarkKnight]

His whole "I was only exercising muh freedom of speech" shtick will hopefully not help him with the lawsuit. He deserves to be sued out of existence.

It's not a guarantee in certain situations and sane people should realize he crossed that line by inspiring violence...maybe not directly but his voice has caused people to commit violence and harassment. He also has defamed everyone (not protected by first amendment) in both Newtown and Parkland. Hence why he does not deserve a platform. He knows he did too...which is why he cowardly retracted everything after the pizzeria shooting.

[Vanoi]

Alex Jones is just a crisis actor to distract us from the real issues at hand.

[TheDarkKnight]

I mean...say what you want about Hillary.

I highly doubt she would have revived the "fireside chat" model by using Twitter to

Be an idiot
Call out the media
Get into arguments with other foreign officials
Act like a petulant child towards political opponents
Defend her corrupt friends
Fire people
Be an idiot
Call out her own party
Lie
Blast Republicans at every opportunity
Be an idiot
Call out her own administration, especially when she is throwing a tantrum cause she didn't get her way
Be an idiot

Am I forgetting anything?

[swabian]

Hillary is stone cold. She would do all the things Trump is ranting about without making much of a fuzz about it. She's also infinitely more worthy of the office.

[Infidel144]

I mean...say what you want about Hillary.

I highly doubt she would have revived the "fireside chat" model by using Twitter to

She would just do it through the normal media, which would play covering for her, while her sycophants would scream sexism at every criticism.

[TheDarkKnight]

Possibly.

I agree with you that many legitimate criticisms of her would be turned to "That's sexist!", because that's the world we unfortunately live in.

I'd rather it go through normal media though. The Twitter model is ing embarrassing. Our President should not be using social media as a show of policy.

Just today with what happened with Sessions? Tragic. I hate Sessions but to call him out for actually doing his job instead of having a private conversation is ing ridiculous.

[swabian]

Our President should not be using social media as a show of policy.

Exactly. It's embarassing and undignified. Impulsive messages hammered out by the head of state like a teenager with ADHD... absolutely shameful.

[TheDarkKnight]

Exactly. It's embarassing and undignified. Impulsive messages hammered out by the head of state like a teenager with ADHD... absolutely shameful.

I mean. Let's not get too hasty and compare a teenager with ADHD to that of an adulterous, petulant manchild with dementia, narcissistic personality disorder, and extreme paranoia.

It's a bit insulting to the teenagers with ADHD. At least they have the excuse of being kids.

[swabian]

Yeah, someone has to think of the kids!

I have it too btw. What's the matter here? I thought we were lustfully humiliating the American head of state?

[Infidel144]

I'd rather it go through normal media though. The Twitter model is ing embarrassing. Our President should not be using social media as a show of policy.

What you'd rather and what you think is embarrassing is worth less than nothing.

[TheDarkKnight]

What you'd rather and what you think is embarrassing is worth less than nothing.

Really? So you think that Trump is doing just dandy in the way he operates? You think that those Twitter tantrums are fine and indicative of a sane, effective, and competent world leader?

Okay then.

Talk about a useless belief. Guess I shouldn't expect much from some people. Perhaps I should lower my expectations of the quality of responses.

I'm a teacher so that shouldn't be too hard

[Infidel144]

Really?

Yes. Really. Worthless. Do you not comprehend?

So you think that Trump is doing just dandy in the way he operates? You think that those Twitter tantrums are fine and indicative of a sane, effective, and competent world leader?

Talking about worthless pathetic ignorant crap...
I said no such thing. I understand that it may be difficult, but try not to tell me what I think.

Okay then.

Talk about a useless belief. Guess I shouldn't expect much from some people. Perhaps I should lower my expectations to that of a middle school teacher.

At least a middle school teacher should know how to properly form a question...

[Heathen Hammer]

Really? So you think that Trump is doing just dandy in the way he operates? You think that those Twitter tantrums are fine and indicative of a sane, effective, and competent world leader?

Trump is still more sane and competent then the last several of his predecessors. Mainly I'm basing that on how many wars and conflicts were started by these sane and effective officials, how many coups that resulted with wars and chaos were initiated because of some "competent" president.
Let's just be honest here, the whole faux outrage over Trump's tweets is just a media propaganda talking point, they really hate him because he didn't really go into Syria and defused the situation with North Korea, leaving military-industrial complex monstrosity without another expensive war to spend trillions on.

[NorseThing]

Our President should not be using social media as a show of policy.

I was not aware that the Trump twitter posts are or were an expression of policy. I agree there should be fewer twitter posts by the President. I just look on these as his way to bypass the media to express his frustrations. (Not that I even really pay much attention to his tweets.) If anything, this form of communication is more to rile up the opposition and rally his supporters. I think in that respect and judging by the comments on this forum, he is succeeding in that goal. Whether such success is good or not, well.... That would be another discussion.