Enemies of the People? Trump's Assault on the Press

[TheDarkKnight]

While I agree that actual media should be held to greater accountability, to call Alex Jones anything greater than a fat, slobby, dangerous, hypocritical, unintelligent, slimy with a microphone is disingenuous at best.

Anyone that defends him and his antics...well their mental competency should probably be questioned.

[Kyriakos]

While I agree that actual media should be held to greater accountability, to call Alex Jones anything greater than a fat, slobby, dangerous, hypocritical, unintelligent, slimy with a microphone is disingenuous at best.

Anyone that defends him and his antics...well their mental competency should probably be questioned.

Personally i am not defending Jones; i did note how his meteoric rise is very tied to the very low state of MSM. I have to suppose that he will indeed go away now (due to porn smear? ^_^ ), yet this won't change anything regarding said pitiful MSM state.

[fkizz]

While I agree that actual media should be held to greater accountability, to call Alex Jones anything greater than a fat, slobby, dangerous, hypocritical, unintelligent, slimy with a microphone is disingenuous at best.

Anyone that defends him and his antics...well their mental competency should probably be questioned.

Well you just insulted a great portion of your fellow countrymen. Infowars popularity in USA has gotten quite a rise.

[TheDarkKnight]

Well you just insulted a great portion of your fellow countrymen. Infowars popularity in USA has gotten quite a rise.

I honestly don't care.

If they listen to InfoWars and take that piece of seriously, they are not worthy of consideration, and I certainly don't consider them to my "fellow countrymen". More akin to "waste of oxygen".

Alex Jones is not the media, just a blithering and blusterous sphincter that lives off of harassing people in the name of "truth".

[swabian]

Jones is an unneeded jackass. Nuff said.

[Kyriakos]

I honestly don't care.

If they listen to InfoWars and take that piece of seriously, they are not worthy of consideration, and I certainly don't consider them to my "fellow countrymen". More akin to "waste of oxygen".

Alex Jones is not the media, just a blithering and blusterous sphincter that lives off of harassing people in the name of "truth".

Jones is pretty tame (and not quite as hideous) as many other right-wing show people. And also less so than a number of left-wing show people. (remember O'Reilly or his ilk? Or have a look at comedians who are pretty much there to troll 'the right'). You may want to identify him as the #1 problem, but reality isn't that at all.
The media culture (news, comedy, hybrid shows that are comedy+news) is of not only a very low level, but also itself making polarization even worse. It may get to an explosive point.

That Jones isn't someone you should listen to to get your news is... rather obvious. He is in it as an entertainer/to make money. Some (eg Joe Rogan) maintain that Al mostly meant well, but got crazier and crazier. At any rate, he is part of the problem, but not what will solve things if somehow erased/taken out.
I, as someone who would vote for Bernie if i lived in the US, dislike heavily Al's claims about Bernie, and also detest how he is supporting Trump to the max. But again, this isn't so rare; you see similar elsewhere, just with a different coating.

[Aexodus]

Well you just insulted a great portion of your fellow countrymen. Infowars popularity in USA has gotten quite a rise.

No need for faux outrage

[Marmaduke]

I think I will leave this right here - case closed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PlTDeTrELk

[tgoodenow]

The John McCain hero worship by the media (especially the left media) is just emblematic of how much of the media in this country manipulates situations for the benefit of liberals.

During my first presidential election, I’ll never forget how John McCain was painted as a racist bigot sowing the seeds of white supremacy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...ma-3266286.php

No matter: Ezra Klein said the McCain campaign was "running crypto-racist ads." Bill Press called it "deliberately and deceptively racist." John Marshall argued that "the McCain campaign is now pushing the caricature of Obama as a uppity young black man whose presumptuousness is displayed not only in taking on airs above his station but also in a taste for young white women." Don Lemon accused the campaign of "creating a political environment that is inciting hate and hate speech."

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.c...it-in-08%3famp

But now that McCain isn’t on “the wrong side” and is against Trump, suddenly hes not the racist bigot who was comparable to George Wallace. The whole episode is comical to me.

The praise for GWB from the same crowd that was calling for his execution for war crimes is on a whole different level of hypocrisy.

[Kyriakos]

The John McCain hero worship by the media (especially the left media) is just emblematic of how much of the media in this country manipulates situations for the benefit of liberals.

During my first presidential election, I’ll never forget how John McCain was painted as a racist bigot sowing the seeds of white supremacy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...ma-3266286.php

No matter: Ezra Klein said the McCain campaign was "running crypto-racist ads." Bill Press called it "deliberately and deceptively racist." John Marshall argued that "the McCain campaign is now pushing the caricature of Obama as a uppity young black man whose presumptuousness is displayed not only in taking on airs above his station but also in a taste for young white women." Don Lemon accused the campaign of "creating a political environment that is inciting hate and hate speech." [/QUOTE]

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.c...it-in-08%3famp

But now that McCain isn’t on “the wrong side” and is against Trump, suddenly hes not the racist bigot who was comparable to George Wallace. The whole episode is comical to me.

The praise for GWB from the same crowd that was calling for his execution for war crimes is on a whole different level of hypocrisy.

McCain called mere US citizens as "idiots" and "scum" because they had the nerve to protest against war criminal Kissinger.
Even that alone should make anyone dislike this pos. Maybe he just got senile. Anyway, he is dead now, so no use talking about him; RIP.

[tgoodenow]

McCain called mere US citizens as "idiots" and "scum" because they had the nerve to protest against war criminal Kissinger.
Even that alone should make anyone dislike this pos. Maybe he just got senile. Anyway, he is dead now, so no use talking about him; RIP.

Totally agree. McCain was totally world police loving neocon to the core who sacrificed thousands of those “idiotic scums” lives for his delusions of grandeur. His only regret was that he couldn’t sacrifice more of them in Syria and Iran.

Its just amazing to me how the one thing I thought the left and right agreed on now a days: neocons are self serving scumbags, is suddenly not true.

Dont blame me I voted for Ron Paul.

[Heathen Hammer]

That is quite a flawed comparison. To put it simply the news organisations that promoted war are not directly responsible for the deaths of civilians by the US, instead it's mainly due to the military, government and local instability and politics to a very large extent. Alex Jones on the other hand through his coverage of events like the Sandy Hook shooting is directly responsible even if partially for inspiring many of his viewers to harass innocent people whether intentionally or not. Although I do agree that the media should held to greater accountability, there are better examples out there to compare to what Alex Jones has done like excessive news coverage on mass murderers inspiring copycats.

Again, that would require objective proof that Jones inspired anyone, as opposed to myriad of other skeptic/investigative journalism outlets. Also since mass media spread pro-war propaganda, they could be held responsible for pushing public opinion to the exact same extent.

While I agree that actual media should be held to greater accountability, to call Alex Jones anything greater than a fat, slobby, dangerous, hypocritical, unintelligent, slimy with a microphone is disingenuous at best.

Anyone that defends him and his antics...well their mental competency should probably be questioned.

So he is different from CNN/BBC/MSNBC and other major media outlets how? You seem to disagree with his bias, but you don't seem to be criticizing other media for doing exactly same thing.

The John McCain hero worship by the media (especially the left media) is just emblematic of how much of the media in this country manipulates situations for the benefit of liberals.

During my first presidential election, I’ll never forget how John McCain was painted as a racist bigot sowing the seeds of white supremacy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...ma-3266286.php



https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.c...it-in-08%3famp

But now that McCain isn’t on “the wrong side” and is against Trump, suddenly hes not the racist bigot who was comparable to George Wallace. The whole episode is comical to me.

The praise for GWB from the same crowd that was calling for his execution for war crimes is on a whole different level of hypocrisy.

Of course, CNN would praise him because he barked some deranged anti-Trump remarks, despite same CNN calling him pretty much same things they called Trump in 2008 election. The way media praised him was simply laughable since they almost presented him as some kind of John Waynesque American hero. He wasn't a war hero and his politics could be defined by constant warmongering. Just because he finally died doesn't mean he deserves praise after he actively pushed US into multiple wars, associated himself with terrorist groups in Syria and spouted paranoid neocon propaganda every step of the way. Thousands of people died in wars this neocon fossil helped start, and this shouldn't be forgotten just because he died.

[RandomPerson2000]

Again, that would require objective proof that Jones inspired anyone, as opposed to myriad of other skeptic/investigative journalism outlets. Also since mass media spread pro-war propaganda, they could be held responsible for pushing public opinion to the exact same extent.

There would be little "objective proof" needed to show that are almost certainly a large number of idiots following Alex Jones and believing most of his claims, at least large enough for some of them to harass people for reasons like saying something that went against their beliefs etc.

In Alex's defense, at least he is funny

Indeed, I guess some will miss his rageouts although I pretty sure his overpriced vitamin supplements will be still be mostly bought by people stupid to believe his company's claims about these products. Still can't get over the fact that one of Infowars' editors rallied against the use of soy in products for supposedly making men more feminine yet at the same time using one of the company's supplements that contained soy.

[Heathen Hammer]

There would be little "objective proof" needed to show that are almost certainly a large number of idiots following Alex Jones and believing most of his claims, at least large enough for some of them to harass people for reasons like saying something that went against their beliefs etc.

So? A large number of idiots believe BBC and CNN, which are just as "truthful", just different bias. At least Jones doesn't promote war, unlike other media outlets.

[RandomPerson2000]

So? A large number of idiots believe BBC and CNN, which are just as "truthful", just different bias. At least Jones doesn't promote war, unlike other media outlets.

As what Swabian said, Jones cannot remotely be compared to the BBC or CNN. If anything he is a lot closer to David Icke levels of reliability than most of mainstream media.

[TheDarkKnight]

I agree to an extent. It IS ridiculous.

But the hypocrisy does extend to the right as well. A decade ago (holy ) McCain was their guy...but because he voted against Trump on ONE thing he became villified by morons on the right wing because he dared to go against Private Bone Spurs.

[tgoodenow]

I agree to an extent. It IS ridiculous.

But the hypocrisy does extend to the right as well. A decade ago (holy ) McCain was their guy...but because he voted against Trump on ONE thing he became villified by morons on the right wing because he dared to go against Private Bone Spurs.

I don’t know if he was though. I mean the 2010 tea party protests weren’t calling for leadership by McCain or Lindsey Graham. Old guard remnants like George W. They’re like the Diane Feinsteins of the right. No ones sure how they keep winning election or who the hell is supporting them.

[Kyriakos]

Ludicrous tweets re McCain ^_^ "Angels crying"

[TheDarkKnight]

Alex Jones inspired that wit from North Carolina to shoot up that pizza restaurant (but muh pizzagate!). The guy admitted he listened to Alex Jones talk about that conspiracy..you can more than extrapolate that he got the idea to "be the hero" by listening to Jones.

Now, is Jones legally responsible for that one? Maybe, maybe not, as the idiot who shot up the pizza place did the actions himself. But he only got the GENERAL idea from listening to Jones...and the fact that Jones IMMEDIATELY retracted everything he said about the place right after the shooting shows that not only is he a nutjob, but a ing coward.

HH, your defense of that dirtbag is not going anywhere. Your desperate comparison of him to CNN (and really, other left wing news in general) is increasingly pathetic. Jones is a piece of who does not deserve a platform nor a voice. Society would be a lot better off if he and his followers would shut the up and disappear from this plane of existence.

[Kyriakos]

In Alex's defense, at least he is funny