"I insist the law does not favour Christians"

[LSJ]

"German court upholds ban on head scarves for Muslim teachers"

Heres a snippet:

A Munich court on Monday upheld a ban on Muslim teachers wearing head scarves in schools of the German state of Bavaria under a law that says teachers' attire must be in line with "western Christian" values.

A Berlin-based Islamic association had complained about the law, which authorities in the conservative-run state of Bavaria have used to ban head scarves while allowing Roman Catholic nuns to continue to wear their head-covering habits in schools.

The Bavarian Constitutional Court ruled Monday that the application of the law in the state neither violated religious freedom nor was discriminatory.

The thing that gets me is, nuns are allowed to wear their head coverings, and that somehow allowing that but banning Muslim head scarves does not infringe on "Religious expression"
Also, "upholding western Christian values"... That sure sounds like favouritism to me. :hmmm:

[Erik]

Bavaria is at it again it seems.
Only two weeks ago they tried to ban computer games and now this.

[Ahiga]

Bavaria is at it again it seems.
Only two weeks ago they tried to ban computer games and now this.

Hm. Now I'm not so sure who I want as my overlords. Christians or Muslims.

I can't support banning head scarves, or the very light hair coverings. Burkas I could understand, but not head scarves.

[LoZz]

"German court upholds ban on head scarves for Muslim teachers"

Heres a snippet:


The thing that gets me is, nuns are allowed to wear their head coverings, and that somehow allowing that but banning Muslim head scarves does not infringe on "Religious expression"
Also, "upholding western Christian values"... That sure sounds like favouritism to me. :hmmm:

germany is a christian country though
its like in iran your not allowed to build chruches


personaly i dont mind the small head scarves that just go over the shoulders and the top of the head, its the full body ones that cover the face i dont like.

[Erik]

its like in iran your not allowed to build chruches

You are allowed to build churches in Iran.
For an "evildoer" and member of the "axis of evil" Iran is surprisingly tolerant to different religious views
Maybe you are confused with America's big friend and ally Saudi Arabia?

[sephodwyrm]

germany is a christian country though
its like in iran your not allowed to build chruches

Germany is supposed to be an advanced First World State with a secular government and top tier GDP per capita.
Iran is a struggling theocratic democracy where people still have to forage at times just to get by.

But it doesn't matter.
So long as Germany compares itself to Iran, it would sink to the level of Iran.

[jankren]

Germany is supposed to be an advanced First World State with a secular government and top tier GDP per capita.
Iran is a struggling theocratic democracy where people still have to forage at times just to get by.

But it doesn't matter.
So long as Germany compares itself to Iran, it would sink to the level of Iran.

Yes it is kind of true. I do not really understand why some people justify certain measures taken in European countries by comparing them with virtually middle age countries like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Islamic Republic of Iran. Why not Malaysia, UAE or Qatar?

[AngryTitusPullo]

Yes it is kind of true. I do not really understand why some people justify certain measures taken in European countries by comparing them with virtually middle age countries like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Islamic Republic of Iran. Why not Malaysia, UAE or Qatar?

Just like we in Asia used to think Europeans as stinking one bath per-month white skin people so did the European think as muslims only as turban Arabs.

Anyway is Iran a middle-age country ? I'm not that sure. :hmmm:

[jankren]

Anyway is Iran a middle-age country ? I'm not that sure. :hmmm:

That is just hyperbole by me .

[RusskiSoldat]

Good.
It's better to have a small scale right wing reaction against this now that it is to have a humongous right wing reaction to this 30 years hence, because I doubt that the latter option will bring anything good to Europe.

[boofhead]

Oh well secular democracy - the majority should rule, no? The majority would have no problems with a nun's habit but possibly have a problem with a muslim headscarf.

If it's so damned unjust the teacher affected can just......go back where he came from

[Lord Rahl]

I could see the point if the teachers were wearing a head scarf that covered the face but other than that I don't see why this law has any real justification.

[boofhead]

When in Rome......

If I moved to Saudi Arabia and I took my bible and stood on a milk-crate on a street corner preaching the Christian message, would I not be a total idiot to be surprised if the authorities 'shut me down'?

Same as if I stumbled through the streets drunk with a bottle of beer singing Xian songs?

I mean get real. When in Bavaria, DO AS THE BAVARIANS DO!

[NimChief]

How long before they are ordered too start wearing Yellow Crescents?

[Syron]

This is only about teachers, not people in general. I don't particularly like the law but since most laws in europe are going the way of removing expression in state controlled activities then it does make sense.

[wilpuri]

Also, "upholding western Christian values"

Those dastardly Germans, trying to protect their cultural heritage! Why, this is obscene, a disgustingly disturbed display of discrimination. The next step will be the gas chambers, no less.

[eurolord]

Well done to the Germans. Now all we need is for the rest of Europe to do the same.

I find it very annoying that a religion based on suppression, especially the suppression of women has the audacity to complain about anything at all.

Personally, I would return you all to your own countries if you don't like the way we run ours - in other words,"go back to whence you came".

The comparision between nuns and the Burkha is pathetic.

Eurolord

[Bwaho]

Well done to the Germans. Now all we need is for the rest of Europe to do the same.

do you really think this law will go the distance? give it a few weeks and various interest groups will have completely demolished this law and every initiative behind it.

[Shaun]

Well done to the Germans. Now all we need is for the rest of Europe to do the same.

I find it very annoying that a religion based on suppression, especially the suppression of women has the audacity to complain about anything at all.

Personally, I would return you all to your own countries if you don't like the way we run ours - in other words,"go back to whence you came".

The comparision between nuns and the Burkha is pathetic.

Eurolord

I dont really see what good banning the head scarft does at all, care to point it out? If thats banned - which it shouldnt be due to many reasons - then in order to not be a hypocrite nuns head scarfs should also be banned, they are pretty similar. So much for a secular country.

[Syron]

I dont really see what good banning the head scarft does at all, care to point it out? If thats banned - which it shouldnt be due to many reasons - then in order to not be a hypocrite nuns head scarfs should also be banned, they are pretty similar. So much for a secular country.

Lmao, some people seem very confused. The banning of religious symbols in places funded by the state i.e. schools IS a secularist policy! so if you're a secularist why don't you think it should be banned in the first place?