FIX FOR THE UNSTOPPABLE NORDIC REBELS BUG

**thelastdodobird** · June 13, 2018, 08:07 PM

Hey all,

I ran into a bug where nordic rebels from the vanilla game were spawning. These rebels would be nearly unkillable as they were balanced around the stats from the base game.

I noticed some of you seemed to have the same bug, so I did some poking around in the game files to see if I could create a quick fix. I'm not a modder, but I have used pack file manager and editsf before, so I was able to modify some values and improve things.

Anyway, simply unzip the data.pack folder using 7-zip into your main attila directory (you will probably want to backup your original data.pack file). I have modified the unit stats for the nordic units to be significantly weaker (probably too weak, but I'm lazy so I just made them all the same value). This should make the game playable for those of you who experienced nordic rebel doomstacks like me. Let me know if you have problems, I'll check this post later.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19jQ...ew?usp=sharing

On another note I, like many of you, have run into the bug where I CTD during the ai's turn (for me it's right before my turn comes up). I don't have any solutions for this, but I have found that manually saving every couple of turns helps a lot. I have had a couple of crashes in my campaign so far, but I have only had to replay ~2 turns which isn't too bad.

Thank you very much to the amazing AE team for creating this great mod!

**thelastdodobird** · June 14, 2018, 03:39 AM

Quick update to the link, it didn't include a nerf to the nordic siege weapons before but this one does.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M-e...ew?usp=sharing

**kanzy** · June 14, 2018, 07:13 AM

I have a pending battle with one of those super rebel armies, they are attacking my town I have a full stack garrisoned+the garrison army+a full stack of an ally army and still lose the battle, infact I have every tower and every ranged unit I have throwing everything at them and no one single solider dies.
Your fix didn't do anything for that pending battle for some reason, I am trying to edit the save file, but I can't get it right.

**thelastdodobird** · June 14, 2018, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by kanzy

I have a pending battle with one of those super rebel armies, they are attacking my town I have a full stack garrisoned+the garrison army+a full stack of an ally army and still lose the battle, infact I have every tower and every ranged unit I have throwing everything at them and no one single solider dies.
Your fix didn't do anything for that pending battle for some reason, I am trying to edit the save file, but I can't get it right.

I found that, while this is save game compatible, I had to retreat and attack again on the battle I had saved before for some reason (If that makes sense). Good luck editing the save, I found it to be rather frustrating and it seemed to only create more bugs than it helped.

Be sure to use the second download, the first one I left artillery out of my accident. First time poster so if I can find out how to edit I'll delete the first link.

**kanzy** · June 14, 2018, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by thelastdodobird

I found that, while this is save game compatible, I had to retreat and attack again on the battle I had saved before for some reason (If that makes sense). Good luck editing the save, I found it to be rather frustrating and it seemed to only create more bugs than it helped.

Be sure to use the second download, the first one I left artillery out of my accident. First time poster so if I can find out how to edit I'll delete the first link.

I tried retreating and attacking again but now am laying siege to them as they took my city and when I click on their unit cards the still have those inflated attributes, going to starve them out a bit.
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**xTumasx** · June 14, 2018, 07:41 AM

Just tested this and it works like a charm, gave those rebels a real beating.

Thank you very much! Now plebs like me without any modding experience can continue their campaign.

**Totalknight** · June 14, 2018, 12:23 PM

so guys, does change the stats on the already emerged units?

**thelastdodobird** · June 14, 2018, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Totalknight

so guys, does change the stats on the already emerged units?

Yes

**swissdragon** · June 14, 2018, 03:48 PM

I was reading your post wondering what bug that is because I've not encountered that one til now. Then, on my next turn with Armenia exactly that bug appears in a rebellion in my campaign, lol - and your solution just fixed it! Thanks man!

**kanzy** · June 15, 2018, 05:38 AM

This fix is still now working for me even with new stacks appearing they still have super stats, lowest unit moral is 25, for some reason it's not updating the unit stats in my game.

This is my save if you would like to see for your self.

**CPL Trevoga** · June 15, 2018, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by kanzy

This fix is still now working for me even with new stacks appearing they still have super stats, lowest unit moral is 25, for some reason it's not updating the unit stats in my game.

This is my save if you would like to see for your self.

I loaded the save and the stats for rebels went down. There is no bug, you are the bug.

The key here is to unzip the file to correct directory. If you use the steam version is should be in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Total War Attila\data

So browse to ths directory, rename data.pack data.old or .orig and unzip what LASTDODO uploaded. It's teh data.pack that has lowered stats. It the modified data.pack is not in the right location, game will not load it and you will have bad a day.

**kanzy** · June 16, 2018, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by CPL Trevoga

I loaded the save and the stats for rebels went down. There is no bug, you are the bug.

The key here is to unzip the file to correct directory. If you use the steam version is should be in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Total War Attila\data

So browse to ths directory, rename data.pack data.old or .orig and unzip what LASTDODO uploaded. It's teh data.pack that has lowered stats. It the modified data.pack is not in the right location, game will not load it and you will have bad a day.

First of all am not a bug am a Fish

Secondly I did just that and unzipped in the Data folder because there was no Data.pack in the main attila directory I renamed my old data.pack and made sure the new one was there but still the stats were the same, maybe its how the Steam version of the mod works, but to make sure I'll download the steam version and use it instead for now but first I'll wait for the new patch and see if it's fixed there or not.

Thanks for checking though, I appreciate it.

**UMCenturion** · June 16, 2018, 06:42 AM

Thanks for the fix! apologize for the inconvience. in the next patch this is fixed, but would require a newstart. However, feel free to continue using this fix with save games.

**swissdragon** · June 16, 2018, 08:53 AM

I installed this fix and it worked for me, as I wrote before.

But I found out that it can happen, that when I attack them and the rebells retreat in another AI territory, I could not attack them there because they became invincible again and took next turn my entire city. Strange bug. So I sieged them until they vanished from hunger, there is no other way to "beat" them. If I read correctly the new coming AE patch seemingly will adress rebellions generally, giving the region more +PO after the rebellion was stopped with cold steel, so that we don't have this endless rebellions happening anymore. Already in DEI that was a pain im my neck.

**kanzy** · June 16, 2018, 12:21 PM

Well I don't know why the fix wasn't working for me, even with the non-steam version of the mod which in it self took a while to get it right with the user.script method. But the fix finally worked for me bt doing the following:
1- Reverted to the original Data.pack
2- Launched my saved game, saved and quit to desktop.
3-Renamed my Data.pack file and extracted the fix to the data folder
4- Launched my saved game again and it worked.

Thanks for the fix thelastdodobird.

**Totalknight** · June 16, 2018, 04:06 PM

This fix helps with those rebel’s but not with all the crashes.. good to see UMC is back hopefully he fixed the crashes killing the mod

**thelastdodobird** · June 16, 2018, 04:31 PM

Glad to hear you got it working kanzy.

Those CTDs are way over my head unfortunately

I read somewhere that the CTD is likely caused by rebel armies attacking rebel settlements (when rebel settlements go below -100 and another rebel army spawns and attacks them), but I can't verify if that's the case. I started a new campaign on very hard where the ai gets a PO bonus and that seemed to help, also saving every turn just in case helps for backups.