public order question

[armen]

Anyone know how to get public order under control? In my campaign my provinces are always rebelling. When I check the reason it says something about native discontent, but its my home province not a new conquered province with different culture. Do I build religious buildings or is it something else?

[Petellius]

build a local government or garrison to reduce that

[Joysong]

yes and build buildings that increase your culture.

[armen]

yes and build buildings that increase your culture.

Looking at religious buildings it has a negative on native discontent, but increases culture, however why would my starting province have native discontent its the same culture/people not a conquered people

[synagas]

Starting province isn't 100% your culture. Look at Rome for example. Sure a lot of people there are Latin at the time, but you still have Italian (not sure the difference here, really, tbh) hold outs and a few other cultures present. No land is ever really 100% a single culture so you will always have some native discontent. Here that is just the same as vanilla religious difference.

[armen]

Starting province isn't 100% your culture. Look at Rome for example. Sure a lot of people there are Latin at the time, but you still have Italian (not sure the difference here, really, tbh) hold outs and a few other cultures present. No land is ever really 100% a single culture so you will always have some native discontent. Here that is just the same as vanilla religious difference.

OK let me know if I got it right than. In order to keep public order in check it's a two way process. 1st is to build buildings like garrisons to keep native discontent down, and as the 2nd step upgrade government buildings and temples to spread more of my culture thus reducing native discontent am I right or still missing something?

[Joysong]

Starting province isn't 100% your culture. Look at Rome for example. Sure a lot of people there are Latin at the time, but you still have Italian (not sure the difference here, really, tbh) hold outs and a few other cultures present. No land is ever really 100% a single culture so you will always have some native discontent. Here that is just the same as vanilla religious difference.

correct synagas!. also wealthy regions attracts foreigners like traders etc. they bring there own culture so there will always be some sort of discontent.

[armen]

Im playing as Armenia trying to keep public order in check, but every type of public order building has a negative effect on Native Discontent. Anyone know specifically which types of buildings target the lowering of Native discontent

[synagas]

I'm not sure for them what reduces it. With Romans, the main building can be changed to a type that reduces native dissent. Also, buildings to convert to your culture are needed since different cultures cause the issue.

[mati_motorloco]

if you are HELLENIC build the GYMNASIUM, gives you +20 public order

[Nihahs]

If you play as Rome I recommend you my thread: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-to-The-Romans

[armen]

I think public order for Armenia is broken. Thru start with 90% Armenian culture and every turn it plummets down. I have upgraded the government buildings built temples nothing seems to work. Other foreign cultures is on the rise in around 20 turns I'm down to 60 percent Armenian can some one give this facto a play and see if that's the case with them too or is there a different solution I haven't figured out

[synagas]

What's the influence for Armenia's culture vs the others? You might start with 90% but only have 15 influence and the others have 10, 8 and 4 (just random example), which means your culture is not 90% and thus will rapidly fall to the 40.5 (15/37) that it actually is. When I get a chance, I'll load in and check actual values to make sure this is the reason though.

[armen]

What's the influence for Armenia's culture vs the others? You might start with 90% but only have 15 influence and the others have 10, 8 and 4 (just random example), which means your culture is not 90% and thus will rapidly fall to the 40.5 (15/37) that it actually is. When I get a chance, I'll load in and check actual values to make sure this is the reason though.

Where do I check the influence and how do I get it up if it's down

[Nochyan]

Playing as Nabatea, the Theatres give a sexy public order bonus

[armen]

Playing as Nabatea, the Theatres give a sexy public order bonus

The issue is that the Armenian culture just plummets from the start of the game I build all types of buildings but it just plummets and what rises is " other foreign culture " I don't understand what is happening why would Armenian culture plummet in your starting province of Armenia. It's not a foreign land.

[Saris_]

New to Ancient Empires, I started as Pergamon and got a -27 from native discontent. How can I fix this?

[Swarbs]

New to Ancient Empires, I started as Pergamon and got a -27 from native discontent. How can I fix this?

Native discontent comes from the proportion of foreign culture in your region. Open the province information tab and you can see the proportion of foreign and domestic culture (your culture is Hellenic)

Two main ways to reduce it:

1. Build buildings which increase state culture (temples, stoa, government buildings) and wait for the foreign culture to decrease over time
2. Build buildings which reduce native discontent, usually specific city centre branches. For Pergamon, the Allies of the King branch will reduce it by 50%

In the case of Pergamon you are a bit limited due to the lack of building slots and the fact it's your faction capital. There's also a bit of an issue in that your port is producing Makedonian cultural influence whilst your religion is Hellenic.

So either expand or convert the port to reduce that influence which will help a bit. But the only real option to reduce the discontent notably is to attack Ptolemy or the Seleucids and capture either Ephesus or Synnada (ideally both in the long term) then convert the city centres into Allies of the King and build some temples. Ephesus is probably easier as Ptolemy has no way to reinforce and it has more building slots. If you go for Synnada you may find Antiochus and his elephants come knocking at your door.