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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vic Pacem, Para Bellum

    I want percent required to infiltrate, it’s far more realistic
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    I will bend to your will guys if you want a percent required to infiltrate, however I will write down why I highly oppose it, and why should we tie the % to the opening the gates chance.

    - In RTW you can only make 1 unit per turn. That means you have to carefully balance out out what you make each turn, because even if you have good settlements, you cannot make both ships, agents, and units. That means that most likely no faction will have too many agents, because if you concentrate on making them, you will be eclipsed by other factions in terms of siege, units, and ships. If we make it so that one fort is impenetrable if you put two or even one spy in it, it will be a huge discouraging factor to make agents when you are better off with siege or ships with your one recruitment slot.
    - Tier two trade buildings make spies recruitable, and tier three makes assasins recruitable. Even if I add the infrastructure in the capitals on the overhauled map, that means that in normal settlement, it takes 6 turns to get a spy (given that the settlement level is correct) and 10 turns to get an assasin. This means that again, there will be far less agents on that map, making it so that you won't even want to bother building the needed infrastructure when you can get siege or better ships.
    - Base opening chance with one spy is the same as in M2TW (level 1 - 16% level two 24% level three 32% etc), but when getting in additional spies, the added % to these base levels are far less than in M2TW from what I remember. That means if you get in a level one or two spies in addition, the overall chance of opening the gates will only be higher around 3-6%. That is quite low, so it doesn't matter if you have a lot of spies, (7-8) it is almost impossible to get further ahead more than 1-2 forts most of the time.

    And finally, my personal experience. Most of you know that I (along with Dragon. and misafeco) come from the Hungarian TW forum, where there is also hotseating. From what I know, out of 63 HS-s that ran on the forum, very few had a base % required to infiltrate. Most only had an agent cap, but assasins could assasinate from 5% and spies infiltrating on 5%. And I know, that the HS can work, and can be enjoyable with limited rules to agents. Not to say that base % is not a positive or good rule, because that's not true, it is one. But it is not necesarrily needed, and I wish to make an exception due to the reasons written below, to not use it this time, for the good of the HS.

    But, since rules can and will be talked about, here is my "compromise" rule. Required % to open the gates will be higher, and we will issue an agent cap for spies, assasins, and diplomats.

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vic Pacem, Para Bellum

    If needed I can join, preferably as Macedon or Spain

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vic Pacem, Para Bellum

    britannia, egypt, germania!
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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vic Pacem, Para Bellum

    I will have whoever remains (if there is one).

    EDIT2: Don't think anybody has taken Egypt or Dacia. Sign me up for Egypt (1st) or Dacia (2nd)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan%27s_Dacian_Wars . Tis a good read regarding Dacia and emperor Trajan.

    Also, if you're interested in a HS in this period I can't recommend the ancient conquest mod enough. It's super stable and I've had great fun with it (just need to add siege equipment to a few factions) and allows you to play as most factions a little before the rise of Alexander. Up to you guys though whether you want to play RTW however.

    P.S The latin for "you want/seek/wish" is Si vis Tis just the OCD latin man coming out of me
    Last edited by Dr Mac; May 25, 2018 at 03:38 PM.

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    So, are we set to go? Did not see any further disagreement about agent rules... You need to speak up if you want change or wish it to be as it was said.

    Lastly, what unit size? ( huge please ).
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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Thread title updated as per request
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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    HS won't start for about a good 3-4 weeks, because the sheer amount of modding I have left. Also, we are not full yet I believe, but those who are already here have exams and stuff in June.

    If agent rules aren't discussed further, I will change it to the "compromise" rules I wrote.

    Unit size won't be huge because it draws from the population, and it would be a dick move for barbarian factions to spend all the manpower on 240 units, and not be able to upgrade settlements properly.

    Also, thread name updated, stop complaining
    Last edited by Mergor; May 28, 2018 at 06:46 AM.

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Don't steal my complaining Mac, I was first

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Alright, I just finished with my exams, so I had no time to work on the mod yet. However, a bunch of people are going for holidays, and we also have free spots, so the start of the HS will be delayed, hopefully not much.

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    This HS is fake news
    "I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion."

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Update disbelievers.

    For one, onagers and siege will be avaliable to all factions. Gauls, Britons, Germans, Spaniards shall break down walls like everybody else.

    For two, this speaks for itself:

    CULTURE GROUPS

    LATIN
    (Roman Republic)
    + Good military infrastructure, good generals
    + Can expand in every way
    + No weaknesses


    PHONECIAN
    (Carthage)
    + Good naval nfrastructure, strong, big fleet
    + Big treasury, high base income

    - Settlements are far from each other

    WESTERN HELLENIC
    (The Greek Cities, Macedon)
    + Stone walled cities, good civic infrastructure
    + High population, fast development

    - Surronded by other nations

    EASTERN HELLENIC
    (Pontus, Egypt, Seleucid Empire)
    + Capable fleet, army, infrastructure
    + Strong unit rooster

    - Empty treasury, low base income


    BARBARIAN
    (Dacia, Spain, Gaul, Germania, Britannia)
    + Strong agents from the start
    + Numerous, big armies

    - Bad infrastructure

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    I believe in you ser xD. Looking forward to sinking my teeth into this!

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    I finally have the time and more importantly motivation to finish this with some help from ArBo. (Thanks ArBo! )
    This means the HS will be done in the next 5 days, and should start anywhere to the first week of September to when everyone is ready/we have all the players.
    So please, change you factions if you prefer something else, or write new ones. Also, if you want to join the HS, this is the time!

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    It seems like mostly experienced players have signed up so far so I dont know if you are taking new bloods but if so I will join. Egypt, Greek cities, Brittania

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Okay, seems like the patch will be done tomorrow. Saleska and DrMac is possibly out, so we need 3 players, Spain, Seleucids and the Greek Cities are free with the following distribution.

    Admins: Athelstan, PeaMan
    Rome: zender9
    Macedon: ArBo
    Egypt: Epic Total War
    Seleucid: -
    Carthage: Mergor
    Gauls: Jadli
    Armenia: Mithridate
    Germans: themzr
    Greek Cities: -
    Britannia: Dragon
    Dacia: Hannibal2001
    Spain: -

    (Turn order or distribution may wary based on the other not-yet joined player's choices)

    If you want to change you prefered faction, do it now, with a new comment!

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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    May I take Spain?
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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    You may

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    I will take Greece if it is still available...
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    Default Re: [RTW HS] Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Added new rules highlighted in red. They are up for debate until we start.
    Culture groups have been edited a bit.
    Last edited by Mergor; September 02, 2018 at 06:21 AM.

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