Voievods Total War ( Moldavia, Wallachia...)

**Mamlaz** · June 08, 2018, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Wallachian

Guys this mod is obviously based on the Ogniem I Mieczim 2 mod so most of the borders and states match the ones from 1648 or whatever the date is that mod starts with some modifications.

Well the borders are so ridiculous I do not see this as an argument at all.

Originally Posted by Shogun

Wrong. Despotate of Serbia existed until 1459 as independent realm.

It was a vassal state to the Ottoman Empire and the Hungarian kingdom, depending on which year as they switched sides.

Originally Posted by Shogun

In 1404 AD hungarian king granted lands of Syrmia, Banat and Backa to serbian house lazarevic they will hold these lands until 1459

False, the lazarevic was given some lands in, Syrmia, Banat and Backa, not the entirety of those lands lol
You had many other noble familes ruling in those lands as well, the Lazarevic were merely given a few castles and land as landed nobles of the kingdom of Hungary.

Originally Posted by Shogun

as client vassal state of Hungary until its fall in 1537/1538.

The Despotate of Serbia after 1459 was not a vassal state, it was merely a title that the kings of Hungary used after it fell, in reality, the lands were split among various banates, for example the banate of Macva.

Originally Posted by Shogun

let alone ruled Slavonia(like, it literally never ruled eastern Slavonia),

Wrong. In 1522 Stevan Berislavic despot of Exile were granted lands in eastern slavonia as military tributary to Hungarian throne.

lol dude, Stjepan Berislavic, his father, grandfather etc. were Croatian magnates that were given the despotate of Serbia as a titular fief to rule over;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berisl...%87i_Grabarski

Again, the issue is that the borders are ridiculous and should be fixed, perhaps the kingdom of Bosnia should replace Serbia as a faction.