Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

[Julio85]

WOOOW Congratulations!!!

a really interesting reborned of this mod!

[stevietheconquer]

wow, it can be an Leonardo da vinci invention!very nice one

[Wallachian]

wow, it can be an Leonardo da vinci invention!very nice one

Not really, it is just an organ gun or ribault.

[Diocle]

wow, it can be an Leonardo da vinci invention!very nice one

Well, actually what Leonardo was thinking about was an improvement of the concept, something like some sort of repeating "organ gun" ..

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[Dead*Man*Wilson]

Congrats on getting hosted!'Tis a worthy project that deserves to have more eyeballs on it.

[achilles-91]

Mylae absolutly an incredible work, is thanks to modder like you if medieval 2 total war continues to live, if i can, i'd like to advise you and your team to make also the armour that protect the neck of the horse, expecially the horse's mane, obviously if you can, because you have to create a New model for that part of the armour, during the battles the ears and the neck of the horse were the points most exposed to the blows of the enemies, I'm italian and i know very well this period of the history of my country so for me would be an honor to help you and the team if you need i can create some textures for horses and other troops,I'm experienced in creating textures but not models LOL , for the rest is a great project absolutly a great gift for all medieval lovers

I am also very interested if there will be horse armors with neck protection with horses.

New artilery seems very interesting.

[Diocle]

Great to see you among Hosted Modifications! It was time!

[Cesco]

New and reworked french militiamen are joining Machiavello...

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[Anubis88]

Great work guys... I really hope this mod reaches a playable phase, it would be amazing to battle it out in Italy

[tomySVK]

Amazing work

[demagogos nicator]

Those are superb looking units!

[Hrobatos]

Congratulations on getting hosted!

[Dead*Man*Wilson]

Here are some scenes of battle at a river crossing!



Disclaimer: These were just random screenies.

[AnthoniusII]

Great scenes. Humble advice. Please make the metal horse armors shorter (up to the body level) to be shown more accurate and more natural.

[Dead*Man*Wilson]

Thanks! I'll be posting more this week.I'll be sure to forward your suggestion to the team.

[Mylae]

Great scenes. Humble advice. Please make the metal horse armors shorter (up to the body level) to be shown more accurate and more natural.

Thanks for you ruggestion Antonius; we are actually reshaping horses' armours, and provide a variety of medium-level and heavy armours. The peytral (protecting chest) and the croupière (protecting hind quarters) will be based on contemporary historical representations (e.g. the illustrations of the Hesperis by Basinius Parmensis) actual extant pieces (e.g. the armours by Lorenz Helmschmid or Missaglia).
We are discussing the eventual presence of full of half-caparisoned horses for generals and high-profile condottieri.

possibly I will find a way to extract horse skeletons and animate 3d models when they will be definitive, so you can look at them. Anyway, contemporary sources shows armours that were not so small.

[AnthoniusII]

In order to create a scene with a horse stance other that default you can use the same method that we use human skeletons to create UIs.
In fact if you have milkshape and take the rider and press the button of milkshape "merge" and select a factional horse both models apear with their skeletons and with milkshape buttons "rotate", "move" etc when you double click on a spesific bone of either the rider's or the horse's you can create a "sculpture" that will be taken as an image to make a good presentation.
JUST DO NOT FORGET TO PRESS NO when your screenshot will be taken and milkshape will ask you to save the "new" model.
This is an example of a standard horse render with its skeleton removed to create UI cards.


I remember that once i created a "diorama" with 2 cataphracts one standing on the ground and his horse head was down near his hand and the other was one the horse in "motion". Ofcourse the diorama was made by two such merged models and adjusted with Photoshop.
Another example of dioramas:

Every single model took its pose with the skeleton move buttons including the horses. Then one by one it took its place into the diorama.

[Mylae]

Thanks for the advice! (and wonderful pictures, i love them!)
What tool you used to convert horse models retaining their skeleton? i use the M2TWMT 0.6B, but that does not rebuild the skeletons (or it does?)
To create previews I usually reconvert the models using the Mesh to M3sd converter, which only has a default human skeleton and does not recognize the existence of horse skeletons. Should I use the GOAT?

[Diocle]

It's so beautiful to see my most awaited Mods, together on the same thread! Now I must stop, sorry guys I'm ... I'm .. moved!

[Mylae]

a small update, continuing the work on reshaping artillery

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