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Thread: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Keep it up man! great work. let me know if you have any more problems with strat map models

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Another great update - good luck with the strat map problem.

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Are there any news, Mylae?

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Looks like this mod has also fallen to the familiar fate of the one-moder-mod.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fahnat View Post
    There is a huge amounts of mods on Medieval II, but weird enough i never find out the definitive Medieval mod for Medieval II.
    Stainless Steel is the best known, but i don't think that it's to vanilla like. I wanted to see something like EB II or Rise of Three Kingdoms.
    I've looked into some mods, like Bellum Crucis, but there is something always missing; being unfinished versions or not quite portraying the time-period.
    So i've seen this going around and wanted to ask if this submod is something to look foward as something that can feel this desire to have a unique and satisfying medieval time period mod?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    I agree with your assessment: the lack of the definitive mod portraying the medieval times - like the TATW for the Tolkien's world, or the EBII for the ancient times.
    IMHO, the reason was that the moders were unable to get together - first, using the words of Gigantus, they're all prima donnas, second, no team-making-person appeared as Quintus Sertorius for the EBII (and he build upon the former team work of Foot), third, there're many visions what "a unique and satisfying medieval time period mod" should mean. The question is: what you're looking for?
    I've recently (this year) produced some reviews of the mods: you may find them here.
    I recon the Stainless Steel mod-family to be closest to ideal - especially because they contains Germancus RBAI and Point Blank's RR/RC. I agree with PB on the qualities of the SSHIP and Titanium, but I'd add that I had many stability problems with Titanium (script seems to be bugged - see the discussion on the submod's webpage), and also that in the past I used to play SS in the form of the HURB and also SS-BtfB-BGR_IV - in both cases the mods were very good and may provide you with good experience. However, both have their problems (especially the inherent stack-spam, the rather botched-up triggers for the traits).
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    I agree with problem that every modder want his own mod. If modders can get together with giving up on some ideas for greater good, we would have ultimate mod.

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    I can understand Mylae. I will use my expirience as example to show two different aproaches.
    When i found TWC , I posted only as a "byzantine" roster researcher. It was the time that Brocen Cresent was about to make its own revolution in modding.
    I came to TWC thanks to a very ambitious mod "Medieval Total Realism Age of Ambition" .
    That project was to far from its time and failed. Then another team tried to create something similar the known Dominion of the Sword that remained incomplete.
    CBUR project ceated to help mods to have a boost atlest in one side but most mods were "one man's mods". That is why everyone had a personal prospective of what he thought it was right to do.
    TATW was an exeption because there was already a story to rely on.
    I was fortunate enough to have a fellowship of modders that shared the same prospective of what realism is in a historical mod. So we went the revesre way.
    We asked Bulgarians how they saw their history in their eyes.
    We asked Germans to know how they saw their history , the Croatians and so on.
    But that had its cost. 13 years of development.
    One man mods may require much more work from a modder but they eventually be completed faster. There are no disputes , no fights no delays by apsent members.
    So If anyone can help Mylae speed up his project please do so. But i beg you do not interfear of the prospective of how he wants to make his own mod.
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    It's just that I doubt there's anyone talented enough for this task.

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    At the current state, I'm working on implementing a credible recruitment system for Machiavello, but I need some time, since in order to do so i need to implement some script and I don't have any experience in this field, as explained here: https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...1#post15883671

    So, the mod is not dead, but progress is quite slow anyway. Of course if somebody would like to help, expecially with scripting or with simpler tasks like UI cards, it would be great.
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    That's amazing to hear. I would really want to help, but I'm approaching High School graduation and my time management is in the midst of derailment.

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Why not combine this Mod with the Italian Wars / Tsardoms?
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonius View Post
    Why not combine this Mod with the Italian Wars / Tsardoms?
    Sorry for the late reply. As a matter of fact, we collaborate with Tsardoms team: we use some of their material and they use some of ours.

    Anyway, I have some good news: thank to the help of Gigantus I have managed to create a script in order to simulate a proper mercenary system: If you have a general with the trait "condottiere", you will be able to recruit some top tier units inside the settlment (unfortunatelu it only works if the general is the governor, but it's still a great achievement).
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Very exciting news, Cesco!

    Tsardoms and Machiavello have some overlap in terms of content, but they are two separate, distinct visions. I'm glad to see the cooperation between the two projects. The M2TW audience is dedicated, but lots of fans have moved on to newer TW games or other franchises completely. It's great to know these teams are working together.

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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Great news indeed!
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Hello,

    I just want to assure that the work is still ongoing. There is much work still to do, and I have been incredibly busy with my job lately.
    However, I hope to be able to show something soon.
    at the moment I am try to build up a crash-free beta which will then be expanded...
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Hello,

    whilst trying to get rid of that nasty bug (I even formatted my laptop three times in a week as I think my crash could be graphic-card related) I had some time to put up a new unit preview for you to enjoy!



    Model for an Aragonese Infantry. Around mid-XV century, a number of Iberian soldiers followed Alfonso V in his conquest of the Kingdom of Naples. They usually had a shield - usually an Adarga - a couple of javelins and a lance, as well as a sword or knife, and on the head a hat, cap or helmet. Contemporary sources depicts them with brigandine or haubergeon, sometime having pieces of leg armour, relatively lightly armoured in respect to heavier Italian counterparts, but more dedicated to a proactive assault role, forerunner of the sword-and-buckler infantry later developed in Spain.

    See the model in 3d here: https://skfb.ly/6TtPM
    Follow us also here https://www.facebook.com/MachiavelloTW
    Last edited by Mylae; June 18, 2020 at 07:27 AM. Reason: missing link
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    Default Re: Machiavello TW (mid XV Century Italy) - original thread

    Amazing news on mercenary script and for the unit mini-preview Aragonese Infantry looks very versatile and as always very well done.
    I canīt wait for the mod

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