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    So I'm FINALLY watching American Crime Story: People vs OJ and even though I know the general beats of the trial I am still finding it fascinating to watch.

    Anyone know if the second season is as good?
    Things I trust more than American conservatives:

    Drinks from Bill Cosby, Flint Michigan tap water, Plane rides from Al Qaeda, Anything on the menu at Chipotle, Medical procedures from Mengele

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    I've been enjoying Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast series. I'm sure the facts aren't 100% correct, but its enjoyable to just listen to whilst I do stuff. Learnt about dem crazy Anabaptists in Germany, the Reformation, WW1 and the Persian Empire.



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    The mad lad Tommy Wiseau has posted The Room on Youtube



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    Another great occasion to see how hypocritically the personality of a guy (Wiseau) was celebrated. The way James Franco treated him at the oscars was unfortunate, now he will receive an economic sanction I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halie Satanus View Post
    Is Kingdom of Heaven’ the most quotable movie ever made?.

    Regardless of whether you like the movie, pretty much ever line is quotable.

    ‘I once fought for two days with an arrow in my left testicle’

    Balian: You go to certain death.
    Hospitaler: All death is certain.

    Hospitaller: I put no stock in religion....................

    Balian: What is Jerusalem worth to you?
    Saladin: " Nothing, Everything."

    Saladin: Thank you for your visit.

    Balian of Ibelin: When the Christians captured Jerusalem, they massacred every Muslim in the city walls...

    Saladin: I am not those men. I am Salahudin. Sala-hu-din!

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/quotes
    My favourite quote from KoH was:
    King Baldwin IV: [Baldwin chuckles] When I was sixteen, I won a great victory. I felt in that moment I would live to be a hundred. Now I know I shall not see thirty. None of us know our end, really, or what hand will guide us there. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus," or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that.

    Balian of Ibelin: I will.

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    Yep, KoH is a legendary movie. It also has a very interesting extended version, adding a lot of things. Just saying in case you dont know about it

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    if only they had left out the mandatory cheesy lovestory and the "commoner rises to nobility" clichee. in scotts defense, russel crowe was busy at the time, but couldnt they just have cast an older main guy, and make the relationship with the queen more ambigious? historically, balians enemies were smearing him as someone who diddled the queen, so run with that if you have to.

    getting rid of the whole first act where will turner, training himself to be an awesomesauce fighter via videogame logic, gets to jerusalem and rises to unlikely power, would also have freed time to spent on the actually important conflict. dont get me wrong, liam neeson is the tits, but qui-gonn was just a superflous mentor figure taking up valuable screentime.

    sorry, i might have mixed up my movies, but you can see how that would be an easy mistake to make.

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    I've seen seven chapters of Castle Rock. Does anyone know if it's worth watching until the end? Does it have any acceptable ending?

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    Rant: Kill list (2011 british move) was utter drivel.
    Λέων μεν ὄνυξι κρατεῖ, κέρασι δε βούς, ἄνθρωπος δε νῷι
    "While the lion prevails with its claws, and the ox through its horns, man does by his thinking"
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    For any Aussies out there, Superwog has his own TV show now. According to the opening credits it has Screen Australia, ABC, Film Victoria and Youtube support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Yep, KoH is a legendary movie. It also has a very interesting extended version, adding a lot of things. Just saying in case you dont know about it
    Definitely, the extended version is even more epic.

    @Ishan, Ed Norton is crazy good as Baldwin. That accent is superb.

    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    I've seen seven chapters of Castle Rock. Does anyone know if it's worth watching until the end? Does it have any acceptable ending?
    That’s a tough one, it’s pretty ambiguous. Something about the show was always slightly off. As if it paid too much of an homage to King and forgot to have a point. Fans of King love it for all it’s references, non fans feel it’s like eating a toffee with the wrapper on.

    Sharp Objects’ is way better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    I've seen seven chapters of Castle Rock. Does anyone know if it's worth watching until the end? Does it have any acceptable ending?
    Quote Originally Posted by Halie Satanus View Post
    That’s a tough one, it’s pretty ambiguous. Something about the show was always slightly off. As if it paid too much of an homage to King and forgot to have a point. Fans of King love it for all it’s references, non fans feel it’s like eating a toffee with the wrapper on.

    Sharp Objects’ is way better.
    Well, I would definitely say go for it. The 8th and 9th part definitely the best of the season. Its just that the ending is not so conclusive as you would expect from an antology, it leaves things in open... (but as confirmed, the 2nd season will have new story etc, though something from the 1st season might appear again).

    Sharp Objects was pretty good, and it had a relatively unique interesting style/approach. Though, it stood mostly on Amy Adams' incredible acting and her character's developement/history than the plot.

    From the newer shows I would also recommend you Dark from (german) Netflix. Kinda a mix between Castle Rock and 12 Monkeys.
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    Thanks.

    Regarding Sharp Objects, I liked it but I found the character of Amy Adams a bit excessive / unbelievable. And the conclusion a little bit "WTF, now all this??" Anyway, in my opinion one of the best series this year.

    Some friends also recommended me Dark, thanks for the reminder.

    And, I am currently watching Maniac, but despite the supposed quality, it has not exactly hooked me. (I'm watching it with some reluctance).
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    Is there no place for classical art? This thread is full of tv. The Monastica section is neatly arranged for example, but having a place for arts pre-1900 would be useful

    I'd like to point out Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau, as a great artist of Hombres de España.
    https://augustoferrerdalmau.com/12-l...egory=12&n=147

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Thanks.

    Regarding Sharp Objects, I liked it but I found the character of Amy Adams a bit excessive / unbelievable. And the conclusion a little bit "WTF, now all this??" Anyway, in my opinion one of the best series this year.

    Some friends also recommended me Dark, thanks for the reminder.

    And, I am currently watching Maniac, but despite the supposed quality, it has not exactly hooked me. (I'm watching it with some reluctance).
    Maniac doesn’t get going until at least episode 4, after that it starts to make sense.

    Sharp Objects, the plot was a bit meh, the characters made it. I’m a sucker for good music and Easter eggs in shows. Sharp Objects did both brilliantly.
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    Finally yes, I liked Maniac a lot.

    I know I am terribly out of date, but I'm seeing and enjoying a lot of Community. Great to see creative and smart people working.

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    What do you guys prefer, semi-historical TV shows (eg Hatfields & McCoys), sci-fi/fantasy (eg Game of Thrones), or just random modern day stuff (eg the Punisher)?

    I'm up to the last episode of the 1986 Shaka Zulu 10 part series detailing the rise of the Zulu Empire under Shaka, and its downfall. The story is told from the perspective of a group of British people who are attempting to stop Shaka from threatening the Cape Colony of South Africa. The majority of the episodes deal with Shaka's life and his rise to power, with the British plotline being relegated to the background/completely non-existent in some episodes.

    I'm really enjoying it, and I was wondering whether you guys had any suggestions for more semi-historical stuff? Just off the top of my head I've already seen Hatfields & McCoys, the first season of Spartacus, Rome, Babylon Berlin, a few seasons of Vikings, Boardwalk Empire, The Last Kingdom and Narcos.



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    Definite preference for realism, a lean towards sci-fi is a bonus..

    The Leftovers - the realism/sci-fi genre at it's best.
    Line of Duty is excellent.
    Spartacus history/gore/porn, great and a lot of fun.
    Battlestar Galactica is excellent.
    The Sopranos - excellent.
    The Wire - excellent.
    OZ - Never mind what people say about the Wire being the first big show, OZ is the daddy of them all.
    Sons if Anarchy - silly in a lot of ways but surprisingly well written with great characters.

    problem with historical drama, round here, there's far to much 'wrong sandals syndrome.'

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    Have any of you heard of the Russian miniseries "Liberation" / Освобождение?
    Its on Youtube with English subtitles, so I'm probably gonna give it a shot but I was just wondering whether you guys had any opinions on it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EybV...4kjNehEg1Jjuee



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    Any of ya read Philip Kerr's "Bernie Gunther" novels set before, during and after WW2 in Berlin and other places?



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