The Arts Chat Thread

[Commissar Caligula_]

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There isn't a thread just to discuss stuff generally eg movies/TV shows/books/art/music so I figured I'd make a thread. This isn't intended to override the current threads dedicated to these topics, but to provide a chat for all of them in general.

[mishkin]

I did not know Neil Gaiman until American Gods (the series). In my defense (now I know he is mega famous), there is not much of his material available in Spanish, he is not very popular around here. Interesting stories, and it seems that they will adapt another of their books, How to talk to girls at parties. The trailer does not seem very attractive to me (on the other hand the soundtrack seems promising).

[Commissar Caligula_]

Besides from American Gods (the book) which I didn't like very much, the only thing of his I've read is Good Omens which is a great book he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett (the Discworld author).
Basically its about the apocalypse which an angel and a devil are working together to stop because they don't want their existance to end, meanwhile the four motorcyclists of the Apocalypse are stirring stuff up, and the "incredibly accurate (yet so highly specific as to be useless) prophecies of Agnes Nutter, 17th-century prophetess, are rapidly coming to pass." It has some similarities to Pratchett's Small Gods which is also a great book that turns all of the ritual and stuff about religions on its head.

[mishkin]

I would recommend a short story called Snow, glass, apples. Really original and weird.

[HannibalExMachina]

I did not know Neil Gaiman until American Gods (the series). In my defense (now I know he is mega famous), there is not much of his material available in Spanish, he is not very popular around here. Interesting stories, and it seems that they will adapt another of their books, How to talk to girls at parties. The trailer does not seem very attractive to me (on the other hand the soundtrack seems promising).

oi mate, this looks like a banger!

[Inkie]

How can a commissar create something as wantonly heretical as this Chat thread? It stands as a blatant challenge to the orthodoxy of the One True Chat

[TheDarkKnight]

I'll bite.

Holy the past couple of days has been crazy in regards to cancellations. I can't remember a similar year outside of maybe the Writer's Strike season.

[Niles Crane]

I will never forgive Starz for cancelling Ash vs Evil Dead but on the other hand it couldn't possibly have had a better ending. I expect they'll do the same to Counterpart at some point as that can't possibly be very cheap to make.

[Commissar Caligula_]

Anyone wanna revitalise the discussion on random Arts-y stuff?

[Halie Satanus]

Is Kingdom of Heaven’ the most quotable movie ever made?.

Regardless of whether you like the movie, pretty much ever line is quotable.

‘I once fought for two days with an arrow in my left testicle’

Balian: You go to certain death.
Hospitaler: All death is certain.

Hospitaller: I put no stock in religion....................

Balian: What is Jerusalem worth to you?
Saladin: " Nothing, Everything."

Saladin: Thank you for your visit.

Balian of Ibelin: When the Christians captured Jerusalem, they massacred every Muslim in the city walls...

Saladin: I am not those men. I am Salahudin. Sala-hu-din!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/quotes

[Påsan]

Idk I feel like Starship Troopers got that one down, like every sentence in that movie is some sort of quotable line. Also i've heard the SW prequels are pretty quotable.

Also I thought the Expanse was today, so I ordered pizza and came home from work only to realize its tomorrow in yurup time. So now im sitting here with my pizza and nothing to watch.

Also everybody should watch the Expanse.

[Inkie]

Is Kingdom of Heaven’ the most quotable movie ever made?.

Regardless of whether you like the movie, pretty much ever line is quotable.

‘I once fought for two days with an arrow in my left testicle’

Balian: You go to certain death.
Hospitaler: All death is certain.

Hospitaller: I put no stock in religion....................

Balian: What is Jerusalem worth to you?
Saladin: " Nothing, Everything."

Saladin: Thank you for your visit.

Balian of Ibelin: When the Christians captured Jerusalem, they massacred every Muslim in the city walls...

Saladin: I am not those men. I am Salahudin. Sala-hu-din!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/quotes

You left out the unequivocally best one.

"It is weaker. Rashid has seen it!!!"

[Halie Satanus]

@Pasan: Starship Troopers launched a ton of memes, but I don’t think of it as quotable..

You left out the unequivocally best one.

"It is weaker. Rashid has seen it!!!"

That is a good one..

German: You say he is guilty I say he is innocent. So we will fight and God will decide.
Hospiteller: My German friend is a keen student of the law..

[Cyclops]

Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about your mother.

I make you eyes.
If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes.

Its not an easy thing to meet your maker.
What can he do for you?

I've done....questionable things.
Nothing the God of Biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.

Not very sporting to fire on an unarmed opponent. Aren't you supposed to be the good man?

Quite an experience to live in fear. That's what it is to be a slave.

I've...seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Its too bad she won't live. Then again, who does?

[mishkin]

^ The winner in my opinion.

Apocalypse Now also have some really nice sentences, from "the horror..." to "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare: crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor and surviving". (and the naplam, charlie don surf...)

[Cyclops]

^ The winner in my opinion.

Apocalypse Now also have some really nice sentences, from "the horror..." to "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare: crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor and surviving". (and the naplam, charlie don surf...)

I checked the text of those quotes, got a few wrong but Blade Runner has extraordinary memorable quote density, especially for a film almost devoid of humour.

Apocalypse Now likewise: both have strong stylist directors and significant villains who wrote/ad libbed a lot of their own lines.

So Oliver Stone and Ridley Scott are two of the great stylists in modern movie making, whose films bear the strong imprint of the director's vision. Is there another great stylist in modern film? I think of Tarrantino as gimmicky rather than stylish.

[Commissar Caligula_]

Awww whats wrong with Tarantino?

[Halie Satanus]

Clearly the most quotable movie ever is - Life of Brian.

[Commissar Caligula_]

Clearly the most quotable movie ever is - Life of Brian.

You bastard. You lucky, lucky bastard.

Person: I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers.'
Mrs. Gregory: What's so special about the cheesemakers?
Man: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

Or my personal favourite: "And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base, that has an attachment…at this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before around eight o’clock..."

[Cyclops]

Awww whats wrong with Tarantino?

Look he creates memorable scenes, he's the Michael Bay of dialogue, but I feel like he has a formula of offensive material + cool/retro actors + implied (then actual) violence + decent soundtrack= $$$, so in some ways he's a lazy hack.

His films lack plot integrity, any real story, or indeed a reason to exist except as vehicles for random variations of this formula. EG he used a track from the Cat people soundtrack as part of a WWII film in which Hitler is burned in a Paris theatre, then the assassins ankles explode. There are no words to describe the pointlessness of this. The film served as a frame for Christoph Waltz monologues, and some pretty tired stereotypes pasted together around it.

His scripts seem to be complied using Cards Against Humanity, or maybe post-it notes, cocaine and a blender. He has skill in some areas of film making, but despite making many brilliant scenes has never made a great (or even a good) film.

He's like Joe Satriani, such a brilliant guitarist, who can solo like a god but can't write a decent song to save his life.