Mod suggestion - Game of Thrones

[LSHE97]

The continent of Westeros in the A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones world is based off of the British Isles, Thrones of Britannia takes place in the British Isles.. HMMMMMMMM

Wondered if it would be possible to mod this into Westeros so I would finally be able to say "ready for a game of Thrones?" and it fitting perfectly. That's it, no other reason.
Just decided to remove Ireland entirely because it just wouldn't make sense for the Ironborn to have about 1/3 of the map from the get-go. I guess half could be given to Targaryens or something but meh. "You can't just remove a part of the map" I think the Rise of Mordor mod devs sunk half of Europe into the ocean to make the map look more like Middle-earth. Since this game is based off the Attila engine, I assume that would be possible here as well.. No idea how modding, engines and coding works so of course, I could be completely wrong and this is impossible but a man can dream.



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[Rewinged]

Great work on the map!

We can't do a lot of faction modding until the Assembly Kit is released, but I'd be happy to help if you are planning to get a team together.

[LSHE97]

Great work on the map!

We can't do a lot of faction modding until the Assembly Kit is released, but I'd be happy to help if you are planning to get a team together.

Thanks man, however I have literally 0 experience in modding or anything similar, this post was more just to get the conversation started.

[Commissar Caligula_]

Nice map. I'm a Rise of Mordor dev and the whole "sink the map" stuff was before I joined the team but I'm pretty sure it didn't work properly, and armies just walked on water like Jesus.

There is the Seven Kingdoms mod for Total War: Attila. Its been abandoned in favour of Kingdom Come: Deliverance but you could try asking the mod devs for permission to use their units. Based on my experiences with them I doubt they'll let you, but its worth a try (probably best to contact them on ModDB)

Also its a veryyyy minor issue, but on the picture of your map the Total War: Saga bit has a bit of ghosting or something.

[Rewinged]

Thanks man, however I have literally 0 experience in modding or anything similar, this post was more just to get the conversation started.

Fair enough. Its never too late to start learning though. I'm thinking of starting up a discord for Total War Modding just as a place to get quicker and direct feedback. The voice chat would be handy too for running through how to get things done.

The reason I mention this is the fact you spent the time to make that map, you clearly have some creative skills that the community could benefit from

[LSHE97]

Nice map. I'm a Rise of Mordor dev and the whole "sink the map" stuff was before I joined the team but I'm pretty sure it didn't work properly, and armies just walked on water like Jesus.

There is the Seven Kingdoms mod for Total War: Attila. Its been abandoned in favour of Kingdom Come: Deliverance but you could try asking the mod devs for permission to use their units. Based on my experiences with them I doubt they'll let you, but its worth a try (probably best to contact them on ModDB)

Also its a veryyyy minor issue, but on the picture of your map the Total War: Saga bit has a bit of ghosting or something.

Thanks, so I'm assuming it doesn't actually work? Well I guess the "split Ireland between Ironborn and Targaryens" thing will have to do.

I was hoping someone could get the Seven Kingdoms units over to ToB, it would make the job easier for whoever will (hopefully) make this a reality.

Yeah, I noticed that when I was done and I didn't bother fixing it.. "they get the point" basically being my excuse for laziness. I used two of the pics CA themselves put up when showing off the ToB map, one showing the size compared to Attila's Britain and the other with the provinces. Both were the exact same size, so I don't know why the Total War Saga bit is different while the Thrones of Britannia bit is the same.

[Nizam]

JUST DO IT

[Commissar Caligula_]

JUST DO IT

Campaigns are loads of work, and the Seven Kingdoms team are unlikely to give permissions.

[Rewinged]

Not to mention that 99% of the work will require the Assembly Kit. Haven't heard anythign about it yet so I'm guessing it's still a long way off

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

Even with AK, such a startpos will require human sacrifices to be completed.
LSHE97 I really like your map though.

[LSHE97]

Even with AK, such a startpos will require human sacrifices to be completed.
LSHE97 I really like your map though.

If me and everyone else are willing to wait ~3 years for Ancient Empires to get a "basic version" of the campaign, I'm willing to wait longer for this. Maybe HBO will have already started the GoT spin-off, maybe GRRM finally finishes The Winds of Winter, I don't care. I'll still be waiting for this. If it would make it easier to make, each of the kingdoms could just be completely controlled by the greater houses by just removing the lesser houses entirely. Or would that just make it harder?

Oh, and if human sacrifices is what it'll take... Flat Earth Society has 52,4k followers.

[Sidious]

I've been dreaming for something like this for ToB the second the game was announced.

I'm only a 3D artist, so if CA's assembly kit arrives and there are people out there interested in doing the technical work/modding expertise, I'd donate custom models and helmets of my own making!!

I recently finished sculpting/modelling a Robb Stark Bust

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which I know is probably useless for modding purposes, but I'd totally spend time doing the custom models

[Rewinged]

I've been dreaming for something like this for ToB the second the game was announced.

I'm only a 3D artist, so if CA's assembly kit arrives and there are people out there interested in doing the technical work/modding expertise, I'd donate custom models and helmets of my own making!!

I recently finished sculpting/modelling a Robb Stark Bust

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

which I know is probably useless for modding purposes, but I'd totally spend time doing the custom models

Great sculpting! Likeness sculpting is difficult work but it seems like you've got a knack for it. Just wondering where you studied, or are you self taught? Personally studied at AIE in Australia for my bachelor of digital arts, specialising in 3D art and animation for games.

I'd say characters are definitely my weakest skill haha, I'm much better off doing static models like props, architecture and weapons.

As for the above question about if it would be easier doing the larger kingdoms, the answer would be yes. But it would also be a considerably less interesting mod just having a bunch of large Kingdoms. It's definitely doable but the amount of 3D assets and manual editing makes it a pretty colossal task. If a team was to start working on this I'd definitely lend my help but I'm pretty unreliable thanks to real life. I'm constantly moving between Australia and the UK for my work as well as having to find time to look after the wife and kids.

[Sidious]

Great sculpting! Likeness sculpting is difficult work but it seems like you've got a knack for it. Just wondering where you studied, or are you self taught? Personally studied at AIE in Australia for my bachelor of digital arts, specialising in 3D art and animation for games.

I'd say characters are definitely my weakest skill haha, I'm much better off doing static models like props, architecture and weapons.

As for the above question about if it would be easier doing the larger kingdoms, the answer would be yes. But it would also be a considerably less interesting mod just having a bunch of large Kingdoms. It's definitely doable but the amount of 3D assets and manual editing makes it a pretty colossal task. If a team was to start working on this I'd definitely lend my help but I'm pretty unreliable thanks to real life. I'm constantly moving between Australia and the UK for my work as well as having to find time to look after the wife and kids.

thanks! I studied at George Brown in Toronto Canada,

theres a lot in ToB (and Atilla I suppose) that work well for a GoT mod.

Faction politics are finally complex enough,
War targets are basically "calling the banners" ingame.
And the late game Norman invasion could be retrofitted to match either the

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Golden Company Invasion

or the show version of post-ADwD invasions.
The generals followers can also thematically fit GoT, priest -> maesters and etc

one can dream.

[LSHE97]

thanks! I studied at George Brown in Toronto Canada,

theres a lot in ToB (and Atilla I suppose) that work well for a GoT mod.

Faction politics are finally complex enough,
War targets are basically "calling the banners" ingame.
And the late game Norman invasion could be retrofitted to match either the

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Golden Company Invasion

or the show version of post-ADwD invasions.
The generals followers can also thematically fit GoT, priest -> maesters and etc

one can dream.

Couldn't have said it better myself. ^HERE^ are the reasons this game works for a GoT mod, not the nonsense that I said.

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

Oh, and if human sacrifices is what it'll take... Flat Earth Society has 52,4k followers.

Can't argue with that.

Faction politics are finally complex enough,
War targets are basically "calling the banners" ingame.
And the late game Norman invasion could be retrofitted to match either the

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Golden Company Invasion

or the show version of post-ADwD invasions.
The generals followers can also thematically fit GoT, priest -> maesters and etc

Yep. Good points. Great sculpting btw.

[Athos187]

This is exactly what I told the attila game of thrones mod makers to do for their campaign

[RedGuard]

what if the westerlands and the vale were reversed? I realize thats not what George wrote, but the Vale as Welsh just fits so much better imo. Then the Lannisters could be combined into one faction (assuming its set right after first book). Also it might make more sense for Ireland to be utilized as Essos and where Stannis hangs out as well, that works thematically even if its geographically wrong.

[LSHE97]

what if the westerlands and the vale were reversed? I realize thats not what George wrote, but the Vale as Welsh just fits so much better imo. Then the Lannisters could be combined into one faction (assuming its set right after first book). Also it might make more sense for Ireland to be utilized as Essos and where Stannis hangs out as well, that works thematically even if its geographically wrong.

I get your point, it sort of makes sense. However, there are 2 gold mines in the whole map. One is in Northern-Ireland, the other is in Wales.
So I feel like the Lannisters should definitely have a gold mine in their homeland because it just fits.

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[LSHE97]

So a friend of mine saw this post and made his own version, he felt like the factions should be moved a little more north.. but he couldn't post it because he doesn't have a TWC account, so I'm posting it for him.

He made this in paint in 2 minutes, but you get what he means. Thoughts?