THIS IS PART OF THE PIKESTANCE GENEALOGY PROJECT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION PLEASE VISIT THE MAIN PAGE LOCATED IN THE SYMPOSIUM.
The Noble House of Wilpuri House Primogeniture
House of the Great Patronizers
(7 members patronize 8 or more members. imb39 patronized 29, the most!)
Total Patronages: 210 | Current Members: 190
House of Garbarsardar Note: Scroll down for imb39 and Halie Satanus' lines
EDITOR'S NOTES_____________________________________________________________________________ 1. I am using the term "Revoked" because it is the up to date term used for Ostrakonned.
2. The Total patronages include all patronages. The "Current Members" refers to all patronages minor citizens that have resigned or have been revoked.
3. The source for Castellan is in the patron’s bio
4. The source that Attadag is the client of King Henry V is in both patron's and client's signature. IHe is also listed in Houses of TWC (1,27,28). The wiki has him incorrectly the client of imb39.
5. The Citizen known as Marie LouisevonPressen went by many names. I tracked down all the names via replies and profile links via List of Citizens. 6. Underlined users are Members proposed for a large award and accepted citizenship.
Last edited by PikeStance; December 07, 2021 at 03:49 PM.
While I was patroned by Imb39, there was some disagreement later on concerning some aspects of board activity. I was removed from the House of Wilpuri due to these disagreements, and as a result, formed my own house. Below is the last House Sigil and the most accurate tracking of my own descendants. There has been some further movement but I have not recorded and organized all that information at this time.
NOTE: The House of Baltar was always an informal affair, mainly for tracking lineages and decedents. No formal organization like clubs or raids on the Symposium, etc.
NOTE: Updated 3/29/2020
Gaius Baltar/Nicholas Rush/Van Zandt
patronum quo
.Count Flip (Black Reaper)
.Mylae
.Professor S
.Tokus*Maximus
.Von Krysiak
.gigantus
.Powerwizard
.crazyroman
.alexander78
.Neldiun
.Visarion
nepos gen
.DAVIDA (Italian Stud)
.Jingles
.Sinople
.Ketzerfreund
.LtChambers
.Theodotos I
.Magickyleo101
.Hesus de Bodemloze
.Harry Lime
pronepos gen
.Derdrakken
.irishron
.J@mes
.Dave Scarface
.Userpro
.Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze
.Druvatar de Bodenloze
.Mega Tortas de Bodemloze.Radzeer.Skantarios
.Subuatai de Bodemloze
.Von_Clauswitz
.Yarkis de Bodemloze
abnepos gen
.Nanny de Bodemloze
.xHerzoGx de Bodemloze
.Worm
.+Mr.Crow+
. Goofy
.Shanksbot de Bodemloze
.Ganossa
.Sebidee
.Arandir Tur_Anion de Bodemloze
.Paleologos
.Miguel_80
.Robin de Bodemloze
adnepos gen
.Junaidi83 de Bodemloze
.Veteraan
.Caillagh de Bodemloze
.Noif de Bodemloze
.Daggonelly
.Hitai de Bodemloze
trinepos gen
.b0Gia de Bodemloze
(This house sigil was produced in 2010)
Last edited by Gaius Baltar; July 05, 2021 at 08:57 PM.
Reason: updating 7/05/2021
Neither is this the dawn from the east, nor is a dragon flying above, nor are the gables of this hall aflame. Nay, mortal enemies approach in ready armour. Ravens are calling, wolves are howling, spear clashes and shield answers
While I was patroned by Imb39, there was some disagreement later on concerning some aspects of board activity. I was removed from the House of Wilpuri due to these disagreements, and as a result, formed my own house. Below is the last House Sigil and the most accurate tracking of my own descendants. There has been some further movement but I have not recorded and organized all that information at this time.
Gaius Baltar
.Count Flip
.Mylae
.Professor S
.Tokus*Maximus
.Von Krysiak
.gigantus
.Powerwizard
Thank you for your input. This is part of my Genealogy Project, which tracks and records all patronages. It traces back to the "First Citizens." That First Citizen is either "Independent," a Great House or Noble House. The differences are the number of Generation and whether or not the line is "extinct." Currently, all Noble Houses are extinct (three of them). There is an Ancient House, these are members that I cannot determine if they are "first citizen" or not. All but one is extinct.
Since houses are informal arraignments, political consideration is not considered. There is no formal way to remove anyone from a house or to "adopt" another member. Since no such system is in place. I can only go by what is documented. Barring such action, you are (for practical purposes) back on the house again. Unfortunately, you did not meet the standard for consideration for a family, but that is also simply an informal designation.
Again thank you for your feedback. Please do share any information about patronages. There are many still not listed or have undetermined patronages. You can see the list here.
Hader wrote: I would also like to propose Pontifex for citizen at this time.
You are mentioning three people and this was your third application. Can I assume that the first two was Elrond and possibly Bane? Like you, I had a different "Patron" my first time (Raglan)?
Unfortunately, you did not meet the standard for consideration for a family, but that is also simply an informal designation.
What is the standard consideration for a family? Size? Taking the line of my descendants into consideration, my house lineage would encompasses several dozen members at least.
Neither is this the dawn from the east, nor is a dragon flying above, nor are the gables of this hall aflame. Nay, mortal enemies approach in ready armour. Ravens are calling, wolves are howling, spear clashes and shield answers
Hader wrote: I would also like to propose Pontifex for citizen at this time.
You are mentioning three people and this was your third application. Can I assume that the first two was Elrond and possibly Bane? Like you, I had a different "Patron" my first time (Raglan)?
Jesus, Scorch also offered to patronize me. So maybe it is four. That just jogged my memory.
Wow what a trip down memory lane. It's been a few years since I even viewed that application, and I could go on for a while about it. And the others. Different times, different times.
To the topic: Hader, Elrond, Scorch, and Bane offered me citizenship. I failed two applications before I was successfully patronized by Hader. In spite of that, given their efforts (even ten years later) I consider myself as equally patronized by those people and their houses because without the experience of my failed applications, I don't think I would ever have succeesed in the 3rd attempt.
What is the standard consideration for a family? Size? Taking the line of my descendants into consideration, my house lineage would encompasses several dozen members at least.
It is not set in stone as of yet.
It is currently defined by the number of Lines and generations. I would probably add a number of descendants as a criterion.
It isn't definite yet and I am still trying to apply it with common sense. There are three or four groupings that could change depending on how I define it. You are one of them. Jesus the Inane is another I know for sure.
Originally Posted by Séverus Sñape
Jesus, Scorch also offered to patronize me. So maybe it is four. That just jogged my memory.
Wow what a trip down memory lane. It's been a few years since I even viewed that application, and I could go on for a while about it. And the others. Different times, different times.
To the topic: Hader, Elrond, Scorch, and Bane offered me citizenship. I failed two applications before I was successfully patronized by Hader. In spite of that, given their efforts (even ten years later) I consider myself as equally patronized by those people and their houses because without the experience of my failed applications, I don't think I would ever have succeesed in the 3rd attempt.
I see. For the purpose of the project, it is only the successful one that matters. Sentimentally, I have the same feelings about Raglan as well.
Last edited by PikeStance; April 07, 2018 at 09:42 PM.
It is not set in stone as of yet.
It is currently defined by the number of Lines and generations. I would probably add a number of descendants as a criterion.
I can see your point there. Only one of my descendants appears to have patronized, PowerWizard. But Tokus Maximus also patronized but he is incorrectly listed as being under Garbasdadar.
I will update my own house list and examine this issue closer.
Neither is this the dawn from the east, nor is a dragon flying above, nor are the gables of this hall aflame. Nay, mortal enemies approach in ready armour. Ravens are calling, wolves are howling, spear clashes and shield answers
He is listed in the list of citizens as patronized by Garb. When the site switched servers one year some of the files were lost. All of the 2007 applications were lost. The record shows June 1, 2007, as the date of citizenship.
When I started the project, I made the assumption the list of citizens were official, so if there was a difference between the houses listing on the wiki and the list of citizens, I went with the list of citizens. In this case, the wiki had the same thing.
Opifex confers patronage. Taking that into account my list of Opifex is below. Though I don't recall if any already had citizenship (I'm sure Dirty Peasant did) and would be members of other houses. I suppose that would be a lot more work, so I'll just leave the list here in case you ever feel like looking into including them..
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I think I divided them into their correct mods. FATW.
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Arakorn-eir
Balbor
MasterOfNone
Tittils
Professor420
Opifex confers patronage. Taking that into account my list of Opifex is below. Though I don't recall if any already had citizenship (I'm sure Dirty Peasant did) and would be members of other houses. I suppose that would be a lot more work, so I'll just leave the list here in case you ever feel like looking into including them..
I was under the assumption that it just conferred citizenship, not patronage? Or did it work differently back in the day?
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He just changed his name.
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