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    I have read that Versi-article on "Islamophobia", and it is a propaganda-piece. I see little or no actual substance in it. Again, I think that "Islamophobia" is just a construct and propaganda-tool (see post:1089). That said...

    Xenophobia is real, "Islamophobia" is not... And, there is a big difference between these two - the first, does not allow Muslims to play special victims - apart from everyone else - while the second, does just that and not much else - and that on ridiculous grounds. Xenophobia is real, and ironically enough it does not discriminate... It is totally valid and applicable on Muslims as well, no exceptions...

    What many (if not most) Muslims utterly fail (or possibly don't want) to recognize is that their traditions, customs, clothes and beliefs are (still) explicitly alien/foreign in most parts of Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea and possibly even the USA (the "west" essentially). Once that simple truth is fully recognized - its not that strange anymore... It is xenophobia directed at the followers of a movement (Islam) that certainly can be categorized as both external, conspicuous, intrusive and aggressively expansive. Of course people in general will be bothered by it eventually! After all, it is usually the natives turf (regardless of religion/beliefs) that the Muslims are typically expanding on... What did you expect?!? That is human nature for you folks, little else! People are only willing to share (with strangers) - so far - before they get annoyed (or worse).

    Once we recognize all this, it is not that strange anymore...

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    Regarding the supposed concept of "Muslimness"...

    This concept stand out as especially stupid and absurd here. And from what I can tell, it even plays an integral part in "Islamophobia" or so they (APPG) would have us believe. The concept as such is defined as follows; "the quality of being Muslim". ...And? The notion is so utterly ridiculous that it takes a special level of stupid in order to cook up something like that. It is both pretentious and moronic at the same time - besides clearly lacking any substance or actual meaning...

    And, why do we have too stop there folks?!? Why not have some "Naziness" - the quality of being a Nazi? Some of that especially stylish blond hair, and tight and orderly SA-uniform to go! Some beautiful and athletic Heidi - ready to "heil" you to the stone-age - as she runs around in formation with her utterly "Naziness"-soaked friends Lisl and Beate! ...Or lets have some "Buddhistness" - the quality of being Buddhist? That's a special quality for you right there, right? Why? "Well because there is a special quality attached to being a Buddhist, you know!" How? "Well, umm you are special because you are a Buddhist, and that's a quality silly!?" So there is a certain undefined and elusive quality attached to you for just being Buddhist? Merely because you identify/profess yourself as a Buddhist? Is that it? "Yeah, that's it! I knew you would come around and understand in the end!"...

    Lets not forget... "Catholicness", "Liberalness", "Marxistness", "Satanistness", "Neo-Paganistness", "NewAgeistness", obviously "Protestantness" too! And the ever standing classic in these regards - "Atheistness"... Yup, it all makes as much sense as that fancy and elusive "Muslimness" would ever do... None...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axalon View Post
    Personally, I find all the talk of "bigotry" here in regards to Islam highly amusing.

    The hypocrisy on that note is absolute. After all, Islam have produced - and continues to produce - bigotry at world-class levels, all over the world essentially... With all that in mind, one would think it be more fitting if all advocates of Islam would take a (much) more humble posture in any discourse about "bigotry" - since Islam (with its track-record) is hardly in a position to lecture others on the subject. Otherwise, it is hypocrisy and arrogance in the extreme. That said, of course there are intolerance directed at Islam and its willing servants. It is to be expected with a movement of that size and with such a widespread presence across the world. It would be strange otherwise...

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    The ironic part is that liberals who preach about "moderate islam" and how Western countries need to mass-import Muslims into their communities would be the first in line for chopping block, once their favorite demographic gets enough numbers and influence to dictate laws in societies.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-veil-row.html

    This is why the APPG Islamophobia definition must be scrapped. A doctor is facing the sack after he was accused of racism because he asked a Muslim woman to lift the veil on her burqa.

    Edit: It’s scary how correct the late great Christopher Hitchens was on all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-veil-row.html
    This is why the APPG Islamophobia definition must be scrapped. A doctor is facing the sack after he was accused of racism because he asked a Muslim woman to lift the veil on her burqa.
    Edit: It’s scary how correct the late great Christopher Hitchens was on all of this.
    That case has nothing to do with an Islamophobia definition.
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