looking good Kostic keep it up! Really like the variation of the pilgrims looking forward to trying out the new version when its ready.
looking good Kostic keep it up! Really like the variation of the pilgrims looking forward to trying out the new version when its ready.
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Super awesome work, Kostic!
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He found him in Mombasa in a barroom drinking gin
Roland aimed his Thompson gun. He didn't say a word
But he blew Van Owen's body from there to Johannesburg
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Ei kostic how are you??How is your work going in terms of units models? Finally, is possible that you make new units as Goedendag militia for flemish (AOR) and another hanseatic unit, besides the crossbowmen, as spearmen/pikeman or halberdiers for rich cities... Other question is another thing that you You commented long ago about the swabian swordmen and perhaps also about the Scottish chieftain clansmen that has a 2-handed Claymore sword, anachronistic for the 12th-13th century, I think you said to give him other weapons, such as a sword and shield or 2-handed ax ...though regarding the Scots I think when you have time you could tweak their units and make them more historically accurate, not as old vanilla Braveheart movie style....
-On the other hand, comment that thanks for your work on the AOR units, this makes the mod very historic! Although as I mentioned in previous posts you could add the welsh spearmen and welsh longbowmen in the settlement of Wales as AOR unit, when a faction conquers this area they will have access to the dreaded Welsh longbowmen!! (in 1132 these weapons were already used in the Welsh regions)
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ei kostic as your work in terms of units? any plans in the near future? Observing the Slavic factions such as Russians, Poles and even the Cumans I saw that they still have the spear militia of the old vanilla model, also the Cumans have a unit model for generals and portraits that are not very Asian / steppe, they are rather more European ... any plans to modify them in the future?
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I just finished the AOR "scouts" unit with its upgrade. Here are some previews:
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perfect kostic!.
I really like to see the unique and cultural differences in your unit models, that their equipment and dress styles are different, for example difference between Russians, Scandinavians, French, Welsh, Iberians, Hungarians, Germans to see their unique touch in the game .
-By the way, one thing that I think you would have to modify in the Russian steppes is to be able to recruit Slavic mercenaries or eastern spearmen instead of mercenary spearmen that have a more Western European touch... I also think it would be good to add more Slavic troops like Slav Levies /slav spearmen instead of the typical spear militia that the old vanilla model has right now, like the Poles and Hungarians... In addition, I would add in some way to the Russians the steppe auxiliary troops like Cumans or the famous "black capes" "cherniki kobluki" "In the Russian and mercenary roster, and I would remove the Pechenegs, who by that time I think had already been dissolved, more in favor of other steppe tribes such as Cumans, Alanos, Tatars or Kazakhs.
As always great work on the mod with your historic units, looking forward to seeing more news!!!
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I continue my work on AOR units. Today the Syrian auxiliaries. Notice the different colors for each faction as well as different shields for Christian and Muslim factions (here Venice vs Abbasid) :
Daylami become AOR unit. Here daylami for Abbasid :
Daylami have swords and spears
Here Daylami_ug1
As always really good stuff my friend!Even if they have spears, the attack will be as if everyone had a sword, right?
what more AOR units do you have in mind to do? from a specific region? As a proposal and as I told you, I think you could do it quickly in the game regarding Iberia:
- AOR almoghavars and also mercenaries in almost all of Iberia...
-javelinmen and lusitanian javelinme merge them and create only one unit maybe called Iberian javalinmen, +1 free slot
- Levy javalinmen renamed "Peones" as a basic infantry of iberian factions (mainly castilians and aragoneses) , with little ammunition of javelins, axes and knifes and adarga/ round shields, little armor as gambeson, they were mainly low class and peasants with scarce training.
In fact the word "Pawn or Peón" in Spanish is the basic pieces of chess or basic worker.
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@j.a.luna: I generally like your ideas and I'm likely to make other AOR units later.
In fact, I myself have a list of units that I want to improve. On the other hand, I try to work in priority on the requests of @Jurand because it is he who takes care of the recruitment via the EDB file.
As I said before, rebuilding units is a work of patience that requires finding free time each week. I do what I can.
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For the January release; some images of the Norman knights reworked
Really great Kostic!, now these Norman knights look pretty historical with their italo-norman helmet!!!
I write you here in your minimod to give you suggestions for future releases, about possible AOR/mercenaries , representing numerous mini factions or different towns within other factions or territories :
-1.GOEDENDAG MILITIA OR FLEMISH MILITIA/ FLEMISH PIKEMEN--- I wrote a while ago about this "dutch" unit, armed with the original "goedendag", a unique weapon in sship mod, they could be an AOR unit in the flemish regions from the s. XIII onwards, later preceded by the famous Flemish Pikemen, who could also be AOR unit and also mercenaries.
-2. MARINAE OR "FANTI DI MAR"---The current "marinae" in the game could have a rework and transform them into "marine infantry" and become a unit from Venice, Pisa and maybe Sicily, Papal states and Jerusalem... you could remove the sticks or staffs and equip them of swords/axes with small shields and perhaps crossbows like Italian assault infantry.They could be recruited in the Italian military ports and the regional building "Italian trade quarters", thus they would serve as support for the factions that had Italian neighborhoods in their cities such as the Byzantines for example.
-3.WELSH SPEARMEN AND WELSH LONGBOWMEN---recruitable as AOR units in Wales and surroundings, also as I said before welsh longbowmen should be recruitable early game (historically correct)
-4.BASQUE ARCHERS OR HISTORICAL BASQUE UNIT---It would be an AOR unit in the Pamplona region and surroundings, I don't know if they should be archers or maybe another type of unit like mountaineers or in other mods like Navarrese infantry.
-5.IRISH KERNS--- AOR unit in Ireland and maybe North Scotland,need a rework as light infantry armed with swords/daggers, light leather armor and javelins with small shields
-6.ANDALUSIAN TROOPS (SPEARMEN, ARCHER O CROSSBOWMEN AND JINETES)---In other posts I have commented something about the Andalusian troops, they would be AOR throughout Andalusia and perhaps also mercenaries, the "JINETES" should be an AOR unit throughout Iberia. Andalusian units should be as Armenian units (3-4 regional units)
-7.BULGARIAN UNITS---Wallachian and Bulgarian troops should be AOR units in these regions, the Bulgarians (in addition to the current unit of Bulgarian mercenaries), the Bulgarians could have some light cavalry and infantry units as AOR units.
-8.SCOTTISH UNITS--- Some Scottish units could be AOR units in the Scottish regions like the "clansmen", Scots pikemen to represent this town even if it is conquered, it is great to see Welsh, Irish and Scottish troops for example in the English armies, just as it was historically.
-9. CENTRAL EUROPE/EASTERN UNITS---I think that Central Europe and Eastern Europe could use more AOR units, like some "Czech", Croatian or Bavarian unit... For the East it could be good to create the Mazovian cavalry widely used by Lithuanians or Poles, also counting that currently there are the swiss pikemen and swabian swordmen.
-10. ANATOLIA--- Make an Anatoliam AOR unit, similar to Broken Crescent mod, Anatolian Hillmen or something for represent the inhabitants of this region
If I come up with more possible AOR units I'll tell you my friend, for now you're doing a great job with the units for SSHIP mod!
Last edited by j.a.luna; January 13, 2023 at 05:55 PM. Reason: More AOR units
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Woow really impressive work my friend! I love these norman models!
Will they be AOR units also? Or only for english and sicilians? irc dismounted norman knights only were for sicilians in old sship, i think that norman units should be for both factions.
( England and Sicilia)
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The Norman knights are a priori reserved for the Sicilian and English factions. The equivalent exists for the other factions with the mailed knights and dismounted mailed knights ug1
Ook Kostic but do you mean also dismounted norman knight for both factions no? Irc english faction can not recruit dismounted norman knight in the campaign in old versions of sship, i dont know why... Maybe this error is already corrected...
EDIT:
I ALREADY FOUND THE "BUG" OR MAYBE IT IS INTENTIONAL BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THAT THE ENGLISH CANNOT RECRUIT THE DISMOUNTED NORMAN KNIGHTS", IN THE 2 STAGE THEY CAN ONLY RECRUIT "NORMAN KNIGHTS" AND "DISMOUNTED FEUDAL KNIGHTS" THEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT IN THE CAMPAIGN RECRUIT THEM AND SO ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE YOUR UNITS IN THE GAME (ONLY PLAYING BATTLE MODE)
ENGLAND landowners5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; 1st stage
recruit_pool "Norman Cavalry" 4 0.11 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and not event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Norman Cavalry" 3 0.077 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted Norman Cavalry" 3.9 0.11 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and not event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted Norman Cavalry" 2.9 0.077 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1
; 2nd stage
recruit_pool "Norman Knights" 2.9 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Norman Knights" 4 0.077 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Norman Knights" 3 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted Feudal Knights" 2.8 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted Feudal Knights" 3.9 0.077 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted Feudal Knights" 2.9 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
; 3rd stage
recruit_pool "English Knights" 2.9 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "English Knights" 3.9 0.077 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
recruit_pool "English Knights" 4 0.13 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted English Knights" 2.8 0.055 4 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted English Knights" 3.9 0.077 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
recruit_pool "Dismounted English Knights" 3.9 0.13 5 0 requires factions { england, } and region_religion catholic 25 and event_counter MATCHLOCK 1
Last edited by j.a.luna; January 13, 2023 at 08:29 AM. Reason: ENGLISH DISMOUNTED NORMAN KNIGHT BUG
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I reworked the caballeros hidalgos:
Caballeros HidalgosSpoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Yeah kostic!
So you have changed the model of their helmets and armor, right?
Speaking about Iberia I wanted to suggest you some things, maybe you have time to do it before the new version is released...
Of course this is when your priorities in the game have finished!
-IRC the Iberian factions currently in sship, they do not have Mailed knights, that is, they do not have shock cavalry, I think they should at least have access to it but to a lesser extent than the rest of the Europeans, the Castilians, Aragonese and Portuguese also used the charge cavalry lance at the ready like their French or English contemporaries...
- Rework andalusian units (andalusian spearmen has old vanilla model), the andalusian archers could transform into andalusian crossbowmen (militia), the use of the crossbow was widespread in medieval Andalusia.
- "Jinete" unit as AOR in all Iberia and also as mercenaries (this unit will be the typical Iberian unit that all factions that visit/conquer Iberia will have access to, it was the most famous used in the middle ages), also as AOR lusitanian javalinmen (portuguese regions and central Iberia), almoghavars as AOR and mercenaries (north, center and Levant coast)
So Jinetes for all factions in Iberia and caballeros villanos/hidalgos only for iberian factions.
-Rework Santiago Knights unit models and their chapters (also make dismounted santiago knights and maybe order's sergeants)
- Rework and Recalled levy javalinmen unit , as basic iberian infantry for Castilians and Aragoneses , recalled "Peones" with little ammunition of javalins and poor armor with axes, swords, maces and little shields.
Iberian factions need a rework for more historical flavor, also their regional building "Plaza de Toros".
Maybe these suggestions are too much or you see them as too demanding for the little time you have, but as you know I just want to improve this magnificent mod and only you are capable of making it happen... feel free if you want to change the thread.
Last edited by j.a.luna; January 24, 2023 at 01:02 AM.
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