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    Expanding even more to those points. The Persians being a nomadic people in the 7th century BC did not have writing. By the time of Cyrus the Great the Persians had adopted cuneiform and recorded their history on tablets or cylinders or the occasional wall inscription. None of these have survived with more or less the exception of the so called Cyrus Cylinder (which is actually a Babylonian record) and parts of the Behistun Inscription and the Naqsh e Rustam inscription. Much is the case with the Sassanid Dynasty, we only have a few odd inscriptions here and there. The Parthians suffer from two problems, that their state was established by nomadic tribes and also that they relied on Greeks and Persians to do the actual administration of the empire. So where as Greek was the lingua franca of the Arsacid dynasty the Persians actually had no reason to preserve Parthian history. As such a lot of Sassanid era history was recorded by the Romans though a great deal of it only touches on the subject of the Sassanian wars waged in Syria and Mesopotamia. Ironically we are somewhat fortunate for these wars because it gave the local Syrians to record their own history of these events. Although there is actually an overwhelming amount of history recorded by multiple sources in this period, so much so that a lot of the texts actually contradict as to what actually happened during these Sassanian wars. Interest in this subject persisted into the 400's and the 500's and there were even Byzantine histories that talk of these wars, histories written in the 1000's and 1100's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga View Post
    Expanding even more to those points. The Persians being a nomadic people in the 7th century BC did not have writing. By the time of Cyrus the Great the Persians had adopted cuneiform and recorded their history on tablets or cylinders or the occasional wall inscription. None of these have survived with more or less the exception of the so called Cyrus Cylinder (which is actually a Babylonian record) and parts of the Behistun Inscription and the Naqsh e Rustam inscription. Much is the case with the Sassanid Dynasty, we only have a few odd inscriptions here and there. The Parthians suffer from two problems, that their state was established by nomadic tribes and also that they relied on Greeks and Persians to do the actual administration of the empire. So where as Greek was the lingua franca of the Arsacid dynasty the Persians actually had no reason to preserve Parthian history. As such a lot of Sassanid era history was recorded by the Romans though a great deal of it only touches on the subject of the Sassanian wars waged in Syria and Mesopotamia. Ironically we are somewhat fortunate for these wars because it gave the local Syrians to record their own history of these events. Although there is actually an overwhelming amount of history recorded by multiple sources in this period, so much so that a lot of the texts actually contradict as to what actually happened during these Sassanian wars. Interest in this subject persisted into the 400's and the 500's and there were even Byzantine histories that talk of these wars, histories written in the 1000's and 1100's.
    Great points! It's sadly a typical situation for Eurasian civilizations and countries taken over by nomadic armies and rulers to have a shakier and spottier historiography than others, but this was thankfully not the case with the Mongols. Not only did everyone around them - the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Persians, Turks, Arabs, Russians, and Eastern Europeans - write about the devastating effects of their invasions and conquests, but the contemporary 13th-century Mongols themselves gave to posterity their own view of Mongol history. This was the Secret History of the Mongols, the first known or earlier surviving Mongol-language text, composed sometime after the death of Genghis Khan in 1227. The original did not survive, though, and was preserved in Chinese via the Yuan Shi (History of Yuan), compiled in 1370 during the early Ming dynasty. The latter, however, contained a short glossary of terms showing the translation of the original Mongolian text into Chinese.

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    I scrolled through the thread and didn't see if anyone else posted Epic History TV. A rather excellent channel produced by a man that used to work for History Channel itself and went independent after it became a reality show channel. They do some very good editing and are in partnership with Osprey Publishing and Invicta for use of Total War.















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    Piett, your sound clips don't work. Maybe just post a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Piett View Post
    I scrolled through the thread and didn't see if anyone else posted Epic History TV. A rather excellent channel produced by a man that used to work for History Channel itself and went independent after it became a reality show channel. They do some very good editing and are in partnership with Osprey Publishing and Invicta for use of Total War.















    Fixed those for you.

    You should only copy the bit of text after the "=" sign in the URL. If you copy the entire URL and place them between "YOUTUBE" tags, it will not work correctly and you'll just see random time scrolls with no video.

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    Got them working, thanks for help Roma
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    Wait, you're a moderator Roma? I wonder if I could get moderator powers in the VV without actually being a moderator. Would make my life so much easier.

    China is so particular about recording history that literally anyone who came into contact with them and established their own state within China adopted these bureaucratic practices. There is even decent history written by the Chinese about tribes they encountered on the steppe. Korea eventually adopted a similar mentality though perhaps not as extreme. Japan on the other hand mostly ignored this idea and history was compiled by clans themselves with the occasional state history. As a result we have an extreme amount of gaps in our knowledge of Japanese history.

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    The amount of detail and history covered in his Russian History and WWI videos is stunning. That's a tough thing to do. His Alexander series is very good as well though he doesn't have quite enough time to go in depth over every major engagement.
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    I'll have to watch it at some point. I subscribed to their channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga View Post
    Wait, you're a moderator Roma? I wonder if I could get moderator powers in the VV without actually being a moderator. Would make my life so much easier.
    No, no, no, I didn't actually edit Admiral Piett's post. I only edited the quoted text of his in my own post and explained to him how to fix the problem. Who knows what would happen if I had actual moderator powers and abilities around here. I'd probably abuse them and become a mini dictator ala the Khmer Rouge or even the Pinochet regime, oppressing the posts of the non-cis-genders, beating orphans, abusing women, and crushing the Proletariat with an authoritarian iron fist, grinding their hopes and dreams into dust as I ravage their posts and erase all of their hard work (replacing it with irreverent memes and dick picks, ascribing such content to the original posters before punishing them for it and permabanning them from TWC for my sick amusement).

    Anywho, thanks to Admiral Piett for sharing those videos! The channel looks really polished indeed. I'll have to watch them all eventually. WWI is particularly fascinating given how it straddles two different eras of warfare, leading to the age of motorized and mechanized infantry. Plus it's just totally awesome to see artillery and even small tanks being hauled over the Alps in old black-and-white footage.

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    No problem y'all! I hope others find it as enjoyable as I do. I'm also familiar with Civilia Historis (sp?), BazBattles, and a couple others.

    That Alps videos looks like total hell! Must have been similar to what Hannibal went through when he crossed the Alps in winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Piett View Post
    No problem y'all! I hope others find it as enjoyable as I do. I'm also familiar with Civilia Historis (sp?), BazBattles, and a couple others.

    That Alps videos looks like total hell! Must have been similar to what Hannibal went through when he crossed the Alps in winter.
    I think Hannibal and his troops would have had a considerably harder time considering the differences between modern and ancient logistics and technology, but even for a modern army this is a daunting task. Especially if you're trying it in the winter months.

    In either case, I just came across this awesome video from BazBattles about the 1030 Battle of Stiklestad, the epic showdown between Olaf of Norway and Cnut the Great, king of England/Denmark/Norway/the North Sea Empire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XV2Vn7YJrM


    Olaf really got around didn't he? Traveling from Spain, to France, to Norway, to the Republic of Novgorod in Russia, and back to Norway again! Not to be outdone, Cnut the Great made a pilgrimage to Rome in the middle of his war with Olaf.

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    I was wondering if I should open a new thread, but I noticed that you are discussing exactly what has been going on in my mind for a while. I want to start a new history-based youtube channel and I'm looking for someone to partner up with. I know that there are many good channels out there now, but I think that there's still lots of unexplored ground. So it would definitely not cover already talked to death subjects such as Agincourt or Thermopylae. Think Eastern Europe and the Pontic-Caspian steppe between the Migration Period and the Late Middle Ages. It would be based primarily, but not exclusively on military history. I'm envisioning something much more detailed than a "crash course"-type channel. I don't know anything about animation. Certainly I'm thinking of something simple and stylized, so no Total War footage. Basically something similar to Historia Civilis in style and quality. His videos on the Roman institutions are more detailed than a course in Antiquities which I took at my university. My credentials? Unfortunately I had to sign out of my university but hopefully I'll start studying history again in September, so I'll have access to a large library. I spend several hours every day in Wikipedia. I'm ready to read primary sources and buy relevant books. So I'm looking for someone who shares a similar passion for history and is ready to put the work in something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D E C View Post
    I was wondering if I should open a new thread, but I noticed that you are discussing exactly what has been going on in my mind for a while. I want to start a new history-based youtube channel and I'm looking for someone to partner up with. I know that there are many good channels out there now, but I think that there's still lots of unexplored ground. So it would definitely not cover already talked to death subjects such as Agincourt or Thermopylae. Think Eastern Europe and the Pontic-Caspian steppe between the Migration Period and the Late Middle Ages. It would be based primarily, but not exclusively on military history. I'm envisioning something much more detailed than a "crash course"-type channel. I don't know anything about animation. Certainly I'm thinking of something simple and stylized, so no Total War footage. Basically something similar to Historia Civilis in style and quality. His videos on the Roman institutions are more detailed than a course in Antiquities which I took at my university. My credentials? Unfortunately I had to sign out of my university but hopefully I'll start studying history again in September, so I'll have access to a large library. I spend several hours every day in Wikipedia. I'm ready to read primary sources and buy relevant books. So I'm looking for someone who shares a similar passion for history and is ready to put the work in something like that.
    Yeah, sure, why not. I have spare time on my hands during the week. I could certainly do some research and even some quality script writing for a narrator. I'm afraid I have very few skills when it comes to video editing and handling audio and all the technical stuff, though.

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    I'll send you a PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_Victrix View Post
    I think Hannibal and his troops would have had a considerably harder time considering the differences between modern and ancient logistics and technology, but even for a modern army this is a daunting task. Especially if you're trying it in the winter months.

    In either case, I just came across this awesome video from BazBattles about the 1030 Battle of Stiklestad, the epic showdown between Olaf of Norway and Cnut the Great, king of England/Denmark/Norway/the North Sea Empire.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XV2Vn7YJrM


    Olaf really got around didn't he? Traveling from Spain, to France, to Norway, to the Republic of Novgorod in Russia, and back to Norway again! Not to be outdone, Cnut the Great made a pilgrimage to Rome in the middle of his war with Olaf.
    The video gave me the impression that Knut was pagan
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    I've said it in the channel and say it here that it could've been much better if it wasn't all about glorious west !!! especially in my opinion it is anti-iranian a bit




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    Quote Originally Posted by kambiz View Post
    I've said it in the channel and say it here that it could've been much better if it wasn't all about glorious west !!! especially in my opinion it is anti-iranian a bit
    How so? Do you think it's intentional or an inherent, unconscious bias? What exactly did they say that made their videos (I'm guessing about the Sasanian Empire) anti-Iranian, as you say? It might seem that way given how they've messed up a few historical details here and there and fail to grasp bigger pictures, but I don't think that means they are anti-Iranian.

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    The video gave me the impression that Knut was pagan
    Why, because Olaf became a super Christian/zealous converter and Cnut fought him after that?

    Olaf was a pagan not long before becoming King of Norway, as the video explained, since he was dazzled by the heroic tales of Charlemagne. I think Cnut demonstrated his Catholic piety by taking that pilgrimage to Rome during the fight, something the video even mentions.

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    Because he defended the pagan lords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Because he defended the pagan lords.
    Out of political expediency, of course, since his title to the kingship of Norway was being openly challenged.

    Besides, this was the tail end of the Early Middle Ages. The Norsemen were still pretty wild and I think not as zealous/dogmatic in the following centuries. Things had operated the same even in the British Isles for centuries, with Danish pagan and Christian Anglo-Saxon forces allying with one another out of convenience or serving as mercenaries for lords of different faiths. In fact, Olaf's brand of mass forced conversion by royal decree was a relatively new thing in Scandinavia, the Danes having done mass conversions beforehand. Charlemagne implemented a somewhat similar policy for Saxony a few centuries earlier, with the bloody verdict and Massacre of Verden in 782. However, this was far from the norm in Scandinavia.

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