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    ummm ok....really tight security there.... It wasn't suppose to be public, but some how someone got a CELL PHONE in there??? BS, they wanted it to be leaked.....
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    It was sectarian. The Shi'a wanted the Sunni to know.

    Also, like vengeant little kids, they wanted to feel brave while they killed their oppressor.

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    They should have just given him the lethal injection and let him pass in his sleep. I know he can't die in American hands, but we should have atleast given the Iraqi's a more humane method of execution..

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    I thought years of television and video violence would desensitize me me but... I found that hard to watch, and I did feel sympathetic towards Saddam if only for a few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markas View Post
    I found that hard to watch, and I did feel sympathetic towards Saddam if only for a few seconds.
    me also

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    What a farce. It looks more like a lynching than anything resembling true justice. What's with the guys in street clothes and ski masks?? It actually resembles the insurgent videos where they kill hostages. Only a situation as screwed up as the Iraq war could make me feel sorry for a murderous dictator.
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    The similarity with the Islamist beheading videos is indeed uncanny - it looks like it is filmed in someone's basement, the taunts, and the executioners themselves, wearing ski-masks and leather jackets, all combine to create a most intriguing atmosphere.

    Like I said before (and was repped negatively for it): The secular sunnis and the Baath have been replaced, due to the democratic process and demographic realities, by Shiite Islamists. Go Bush & Coalition of the willing!

    A country like Iraq is a country of many nations. What did you expect would happen?

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    Psychopathy helped him on his way, though, same as every other fruitloop who is commissioned 'by his time and circumstances' to enjoy torture and take his children to watch people have acid applied to their faces - no amount of time and circumstances will really do the trick to achieve the creativity of the true colossal pervert...there has to be that added element of some very ill-balanced ingredients in the baking-tin in the first place.
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    theres no proof at all that lethal injection is any more humane than hanging, for all we know it could bring on much more suffering. Lethal injection was pioneered by such humanists as the NAZI'S, and they thought it up mainly to save time, trouble and money for the executioners, not make the passing any easier for the person actually getting injected.


    I for one am pissed off at the horrible picture quality of cellphone cameras. First michael richards, and now this. You hear me cellphone companies? Get crackin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harm View Post
    ummm ok....really tight security there.... It wasn't suppose to be public, but some how someone got a CELL PHONE in there??? BS, they wanted it to be leaked.....
    They wanted it leaked indeed...

    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA
    theres no proof at all that lethal injection is any more humane than hanging, for all we know it could bring on much more suffering. Lethal injection was pioneered by such humanists as the NAZI'S, and they thought it up mainly to save time, trouble and money for the executioners, not make the passing any easier for the person actually getting injected.
    The fact that the nazis pioneered lethal injection means about jack and has to be the biggest violation of Godwin's Law I've seen on this subject. The humaneness of lethal injection is centered around the chemicals they use, not the method of execution itself. As a method of execution you CAN'T GET more humane then just sticking somebody in the arm and pumping juice in. It just WON'T happen. If you think it's inhumane you should be looking at alternate chemicals that can be used, because like it or not, the death penalty ain't going nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    They wanted it leaked indeed...

    The fact that the nazis pioneered lethal injection means about jack and has to be the biggest violation of Godwin's Law I've seen on this subject. The humaneness of lethal injection is centered around the chemicals they use, not the method of execution itself. As a method of execution you CAN'T GET more humane then just sticking somebody in the arm and pumping juice in. It just WON'T happen. If you think it's inhumane you should be looking at alternate chemicals that can be used, because like it or not, the death penalty ain't going nowhere.
    Uhm no, i mentione the nazis because they are the epitome of heartless, brutal efficiency. If theres anything lethal injection is, its efficient. Sure you certainly can get more humane than lethal injection, for example a method where there is very little chance something can go wrong would be more humane. A shot in the head, a snap of the neck...with lethal injuection there is more possability for something going wrong. Not enough of the first chenmical being used, so the guy is still awake while the second chemical goes in...etc...and we really have no idea how it feels, im willing to bet its something like having battery acid going through your veins.

    Stories of needles popping out and spraying chemicals wildly around the room. Godwinsons law my ass, it'd be more patriotic to discontinue the method of execution pioneered by the greatest enemy we've had in modern times.

    edit: and we should also ban volkswagons and lederhosen

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    the gallows are better. Quick easy and effective. All you need is a wooden plank, a rope, and a puller.
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    yeah, well I still think firing squad is the best method of execution. What they should do is shoot the swinging corpse if the hanging goes wrong, and the guy starts to suffer...

    I think all executions (well actually, I think there should be no execution but realistically...) should be the guy kneeling down and someone else just coming up behind him, handgun to the head, bang. If I was going to be killed thats the way I'd want to die, i guess.

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    executions are fine with me. Shooting someone in the head is too messy mate. i suggest the gallow, your head is covered in a sack and we just dump the body in some grave. I guarantee someone comes in here saying NAZI!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA View Post
    Godwinsons law my ass, it'd be more patriotic to discontinue the method of execution pioneered by the greatest enemy we've had in modern times.
    Hey look...you broke Godwin's Law in the same sentence you're saying you didn't break it!

    I mean...."I'm not breaking Godwin's Law, it'd just be better if we didn't use the method the Nazi's used because it was them that created it."
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    Look, godwins law can only apply when the discussion at first has nothing to do with the nazis. Here, I think mention of the nazis is atleast partly excusable. Because they did popularize this method of execution is all...and just like the guillotine will always be seen as french, I think the overlying stigma of using lethal injection is similary nazi-ish. I think this argument holds at least some water, so excuuuuu-use me.

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    Gaidin your not seriously going to tell me that you think lethal injection is more humane than hanging unless you have been hibernating the last few months.

    Although that was just one of many cases where the anethiatists were incompetent and failed utterly at their job causing excruciating pain or the inconclusive proof and faith in the method. Where as hanging is proven to be an easy implemented method with little chance of failure and little training in the delivery required.

    I don't like either but to suggest lethal injection is more humane, well its patriotic I'll say that.

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    Gaidin your not seriously going to tell me that you think lethal injection is more humane than hanging unless you have been hibernating the last few months.

    Although that was just one of many cases where the anethiatists were incompetent and failed utterly at their job causing excruciating pain or the inconclusive proof and faith in the method. Where as hanging is proven to be an easy implemented method with little chance of failure and little training in the delivery required.
    I've got no desire nor need to say that the last botch of the lethal injection was inhumane. It's pretty much an accepted truth. But to use it against lethal injection as a whole is a flat out biased sample.

    Hanging has its paths to being inhumane as much as lethal injection or even the gas chamber. If somebody makes the rope for hanging too short its all of a sudden just as "inhumane" as lethal injection(which as I said, depends on the chemicals used) and the gas chamber(also dependent on the chemicals used).

    The same argument can be made for an "modern" method of execution. We won't go into drawing and quartering or any other old style execution like that, and the firing squad has a lot more room for error. Not enough voltage on the electric chair, and all of a sudden you have a situation that makes Marv's death in Sin City look like an exaggerated truth instead of comic book character wankage. The list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    I've got no desire nor need to say that the last botch of the lethal injection was inhumane. It's pretty much an accepted truth. But to use it against lethal injection as a whole is a flat out biased sample.

    Hanging has its paths to being inhumane as much as lethal injection or even the gas chamber. If somebody makes the rope for hanging too short its all of a sudden just as "inhumane" as lethal injection(which as I said, depends on the chemicals used) and the gas chamber(also dependent on the chemicals used).

    The same argument can be made for an "modern" method of execution. We won't go into drawing and quartering or any other old style execution like that, and the firing squad has a lot more room for error. Not enough voltage on the electric chair, and all of a sudden you have a situation that makes Marv's death in Sin City look like an exaggerated truth instead of comic book character wankage. The list goes on.
    Instead you look at the probabilities or risk of something going wrong, something that is far greater in lethal injection than it is in hanging. I don't really know the relevance is of the rest.

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    Instead you look at the probabilities or risk of something going wrong, something that is far greater in lethal injection than it is in hanging. I don't really know the relevance is of the rest.
    The relevance was to show that every other method of execution typically used in modern days has its own out to screwing the hell up.
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