Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?
"Final solutions" are a fantasy. How many more times does this point have to be made? International relations are fluid entities which are always open to change. They do not exist on the basis of immovable articles.Originally Posted by Carmen Sylva
No it isn't. What's being discussed here is the economic relationship between N. Ire. and the Republic, not "the economic fate" of the entire island.2. Irish people must tolerate, that their economical fate after 800 years of foreign rule is again solely in the hand of the british loyalists.
Regulatory alignment is written into the agreement. Since Northern Ireland already adheres to EU standards (as does the rest of the United Kingdom) there is no particular reason to suspect that it will become an "open gate for non standard EU goods".3. No trust, that NI not will become a open gate for non standard EU goods without EU border control.
Not an argument. If the European Union doesn't "trust" the British to adhere to international agreements then it shouldn't even be negotiating with them at all.You can simply not trust a british conservative government to not misuse EU treaties.
Last example:
The European Commission has indirectly confirmed the UK made illegal copies of classified personal information from a database reserved for members of the passport-free Schengen travel zone.
https://euobserver.com/justice/145530
Or they try to blackmail EU to gain financial advantages, as EU shall not control at the border.
"We need more money or the customs agency in NI can't work properly..."
What drivel.4. Boris deal are 100 % british positions, 0 % EU positions. Thats no treaty, thats a dictation.
Setting up checking areas behind the border wouldn't be a "tremendous bureaucratic effort" nor would it "open wide possibilities of abuse". I don't know if you know this, but European Union member states do in fact trade with third parties already. I am yet to hear of anyone complaining about the "bureaucratic" impossibilities of importing from places like the US or New Zealand, for instance.Edit:
Translation from an article from "Spiegel" about Boris "deal:
One thing is, how do you raise tariffs without having turnpikes between Ireland and Northern Ireland? The British claim that their proposal makes controls at the border or even near them superfluous. Instead, goods should be declared before crossing the border and then prosecuted by either Irish or British authorities. The few physical examinations that would still be necessary are to take place on the dealers' premises. But that, says an EU expert, would not only mean a "tremendous bureaucratic effort", because you would have to create completely new structures. It would also open wide possibilities of abuse.
The point of the checks behind the border are designed to ensure that products entering the European Union from the United Kingdom are of the correct standard. Assuming that the United Kingdom and the European Union reach a free trade agreement during the transition period, the produce that the UK exports to the European Union will still adhere to European Union standards. The point is that produce for domestic consumption or export to non-EU countries would not be subject to EU regulations.In addition, there would be another problem: how do you keep goods that come from outside the UK and do not comply with EU standards - such as chlorine chickens from the USA - from Northern Ireland in the future? From there, if the British plan were to be implemented, they would be able to enter the Republic of Ireland and the rest of the EU unhindered. London suggests that British authorities inspect goods on British soil, on the basis of EU law, although the UK is no longer bound by it. "We certainly will not outsource sensitive controls to the British or anyone else," says an EU diplomat.
It isn't up to the European Union to dictate to a non-member state what it's trading practices or standards will be. It is right and proper for the Northern Irish to have the final say on how how they choose to do business with the Republic. The fact that the PM wants to secure, in writing, the sovereignty of the people of Northern Ireland by ensuring that they aren't perpetually trapped into the arrangements of the withdrawal agreement is, once again, completely acceptable. The fact of the matter is that the DUP would virtually never agree to anything which necessitated a hard border: all they want is to ensure that the they aren't politically incapable of exiting or updating the agreement. They have a right not to be made into an economic satellite of the European Union.But there is an even bigger problem. The British Government wants to put the entire plan under a reservation: the consent of the Northern Irish. Their parliament and the government should approve the agreements - not once but over and over again. A first vote should be made after the end of the two-year transitional phase after Brexit, followed by another every four years.
Northern Ireland veto could bring back hard frontier
It would de facto be the time limit for the Irish backstop that the British have always called for and the EU has always categorically rejected. For if the consent of the Northern Irishmen fails to materialize, the entire agreement would become obsolete after one year. Then it could come what the EU and Ireland want to prevent at any cost: a new hard border with Northern Ireland.
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...a-1289829.html
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Looks like he is May 2.0 all over and clown on the top..
) as part of EU police force to keep order in UK ...like Scotland fighting independence in William Wallace style (Freeeeeedom!!!! 
) Brexiteers (sounds almost like musketeers 
) brawling with remainers and Queen taking Tea all over this (hope nobody gets mad, had no idea to put there). Where Hitler and Napoleon failed....Bojo might be successful! From comments looks like Cumming himself wrote it? Maybe...
