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    Byzantium subbed, Fatimids up!
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    The event and RP will have to be made in 3 separate posts (including this) because it's too long

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    1110 AD
    (HRE/PAPAL STATES EVENT)




    Italy is in chaos. The Venetian State is destroyed, and the Genoese successfully rebelled against the Emperor, seizing Northern Italy from the Empire. The Pope, Paschal II is in a precarious position. While the immediate threat of Venice is gone, neighbors struggling for power surround them. In the North, the Genoese established a state not just ruling the wawes of the Mediterranean, but the fertile lands of Lombardy and Veneto. In the South, the young Sicilian Kingdom stands as a new power rivaling even the old kingdoms of France or England. Their Norman knights have conquered the Holy Land 11 years before, but that might not be enough for them. And the currently weakened but ever powerful Holy Roman Empire shadows over the peninsula. After all, Italy might not be controlled by them, but it is still part of the Empire. The Pope must find a way to strengthen his position, or the Church of God may lose its influence. But an old dispute and a rebellious leader from Toscana might help. But in the end, the Roman church was founded by God alone—the papal power must be the sole universal power!


    THE INVESTITURE CONTROVERSY AND HENRY IV


    After the decline of the Roman Empire and prior to the Investiture Controversy, investiture, while theoretically a task of the church, was in practice performed by members of the religious nobility. Many bishops and abbots were themselves part of the ruling nobility. Since the eldest son would inherit the title of the father, siblings often found careers in the church. This was particularly true where the family may have established a proprietary church or abbey on their estate. Since Otto I (936-972) the bishops had been princes of the empire, had secured many privileges, and had become to a great extent feudal lords over great districts of the imperial territory. The control of these great units of economic and military power was for the king a question of primary importance, as it affected the imperial authority. It was essential for a ruler or nobleman to appoint - or sell the office to - someone who would remain loyal. Since a substantial amount of wealth and land was usually associated with the office of a bishop or abbot, the sale of church offices (a practice known as simony) was an important source of income for leaders among the nobility, who themselves owned the land and by charity allowed the building of churches.





    In 1073, Pope Gregory VII took office, and he was determined to make the church as independent as possible from the secular rulers, hoping instead to place them under his authority. He wanted a world in which everyone acknowledged the final and ultimate authority of the Christian Church - with the pope as head of that church, of course. In 1075 he forbade any further lay investiture, declaring it a form of simony. Moreover, he declared that any secular leaders who tried to invest someone with a clerical office would suffer excommunication. Henry IV, who had long seethed under the pressures from the church, refused to accept this change which undercut significant aspects of his power. As a test case, Henry deposed the bishop of Milan and invested someone else with the office. In response, Gregory demanded that Henry appears in Rome to repent of his sins, which he refused to do. Instead, Henry convened a meeting in Worms where German bishops loyal to him labeled Gregory a "false monk" who was no longer worthy of the office of pope. Gregory, in turn, excommunicated Henry - this had the effect of making all of the oaths sworn to Henry no longer valid, at least from the perspective of those who would be able to benefit from ignoring prior oaths to him.





    Henry couldn't have been in a worse position - enemies at home would use this to ensure his removal from power and all he could do was seek forgiveness from Pope Gregory. He reached Gregory at Canossa, a stronghold belonging to Matilda, the Countess of Tuscany, while he was already on his way to Germany for the election of a new emperor. Dressed in the poor clothing of a penitent, Henry begged for forgiveness. Gregory, however, was not ready to give in easily. He made Henry stand barefoot in the snow for three days until he allowed Henry to enter and kiss the papal ring.





    MATILDA OF TUSCANY



    Matilda of Tuscany was a powerful feudal Margravine of Tuscany, ruler in northern Italy and the chief Italian supporter of Pope Gregory VII during the Investiture Controversy; in addition, she was one of the few medieval women to be remembered for her military accomplishments, thanks to which she was able to dominate all the territories north of the Church States.

    In 1079, (2 years after Henry's walk of Canossa) Matilda gave the Pope all her domains, in open defiance of Henry IV's claims both as the overlord of some of those domains and as her close relative. Two years later the fortunes of Papacy and Empire turned again: in 1080 Henry IV summoned a council in Brixen, which deposed Gregory VII. The following year the Emperor decided to travel again to Italy to reinstate his overlordship over his territories. He also declared Matilda, on account of her 1079 donation to the Church, forfeit and be banned from the Empire; although this wasn't enough to eliminate her as a source of trouble, for she retained substantial allodial holdings. On 15 October 1080 near Volta Mantovana the Imperial troops (with Guibert of Ravenna as the newly elected Antipope Clement III) defeated the troops loyal to Gregory VII and controlled by Matilda. Matilda remained Pope Gregory VII's chief intermediary for communication with northern Europe even as he lost control of Rome and was holed up in the Castel Sant'Angelo. Henry IV's control of Rome enabled him to enthrone Antipope Clement III, who, in turn, crowned him Emperor. After this, Henry IV returned to Germany, leaving it to his allies to attempt Matilda's dispossession. These attempts floundered after Matilda defeated them at Sorbara near Modena in 1084.





    After several victories, including one against the Saxons, Henry IV prepared in 1090 his third descent to Italy, in order to inflict the final defeat on the Church. In spite of its fearful power, the Imperial army was defeated by Matilda's liegemen. Among them were small landowners and holders of fortified villages, which remained completely loyal to the Canossas even against the Holy Roman Emperor. Their familiarity with the territory, their quick communications, and maneuvering to all the high places of the Val d'Enza gave them victory over Henry's might. It seems that Matilda personally participated, with a handful of chosen faithful men, to the battle, galvanizing the allies with the cry of Just War. The Imperial army was taken as a vice in the meandering mountain creek. The overall import of Henry's rout was more than a military defeat. The Emperor realized it was impossible to penetrate those places, wholly different from the plains of the Po Valley or of Saxe. There he faced not boundaries drawn by the rivers of Central Europe, but steep trails, ravines, inaccessible places protecting Matilda's fortresses, and high tower houses, whence the defenders could unload on anyone approaching missiles of all kinds: spears, arrows, perhaps even boiling oil, javelins, stones.


    HENRY V OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE





    Henry's parents were Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor, and Bertha of Savoy. On 6 January 1099, his father had him crowned King of Germany at Aachen in place of his older brother, the rebel Conrad. Henry took an oath to take no part in the business of the Empire during his father's lifetime, but he was induced by his father's enemies to revolt in 1104, securing a dispensation from the oath by Pope Paschal II, and some of the princes did homage to him at Mainz in January 1105. Despite the initial setbacks of the rebels, Henry IV was forced to abdicate and died soon after. Henry's primary concern during his reign was settling the Investiture Controversy, which had caused a serious dispute during the previous reign. The papal party who had supported Henry in his resistance to his father hoped he would assent to the papal decrees, which had been renewed by Paschal II at the synod of Guastalla in 1106. The king, however, continued to invest the bishops but wished the pope to hold a council in Germany to settle the question. After some hesitation, Paschal preferred France to Germany, and, after holding a council at Troyes, renewed his prohibition of lay investiture. The matter slumbered until 1110, when, negotiations between the Emperor and Pope have failed.
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    Sources:
    https://courses.lumenlearning.com/su...e-controversy/
    https://www.thoughtco.com/investitur...oversy-3864967
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_..._Roman_Emperor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_of_Tuscany

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    The Investiture Controversy
    (HRE/PAPAL STATES EVENT)



    After five years of unsuccessful negotiations, diplomatic relations between the Papal State and the Holy Roman Empire have broken down. Despite the war efforts by the Pope against his father, Henry V did not do what he promised to Paschal II and continued to invest in bishops. A breaking point is reached, and now the Emperor is excommunicated along with an ultimatum. Either accept the papal claim to lay investiture and the penalty for breaking the agreement, or face eternal damnation in hell. Now, the Emperor has two choices.


    - The Emperor cannot risk the wrath of the Pope and has to learn from his father's mistakes. The claim to lay investiture must be revoked.
    (Effect: As a penalty for his sins, Henry V shall remain excommunicated for five turns. A tribute of 4000 florins must be paid to the pope for five turns as a concession for the lost income through simony. Seeing the Emperor weaker than ever, the HRE rebels will get reinforcements. But with diplomatic relations secured, and better than ever with the Paschal II, a better church shall be built in every town and castle along with a cathedral when the first possible city reaches that required size.)


    - Henry IV was right. The Pope is just a false monk. Prepare the troops for an Italian Expedition! Dei Gratia!
    (Effect: The Holy Roman Emperor declares war on the Papal States and remains excommunicated until the war lasts. The Emperor is seen as strong, and the nobles can continue simony. For this, the HRE rebels offer a ceasefire until peace is made. A small army of volunteers appear at Innsbruck to help. )


    Both choices continue the Investiture Controversy event chain.


    The requirements to win the war and the special rules will be written down if it starts.

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    The Italian Expedition


    Henry V have decided that Paschal II is no more than a false monk and a puppet of the Italian rebels. A ceasefire has been made with the nobles at home till the war lasts. Now, it's time for the Pope to decide if he really wishes to try to defeat the mighty empire... But from Henry V's side, the horses are saddled, and the armies are prepared for war.

    The Pope's choices:

    God rules over the Pope, and the Pope rules over the Kings!
    (Effect: The rebels in Bologna disband and give their city to the Papal States. Matilda of Tuscany raises her banners and gives a free army at Bologna to Paschal II to command)

    Excommunication was a hastly decision. Let us try to negotiate.
    (Effect: A peace is made. The Emperor may be reconciled, the rebellious Matilda surrenders, and returns Bologna to the fold, making it a city of the Holy Roman Empire again, and a personal state of Henry V. From now on, the Holy Roman Emperor cannot be excommunicated manually until the end of the game.)

    The Rules of the War
    - The Pope loses if he surrenders, loses Rome for more than one turn** or all personal and possible allied armies get defeated.
    - The Emperor loses if he surrenders.
    - Anyone can freely join the war on either side, or support the warring factions with money. For this purpose only, diplomats may be teleported. (Thanks for the idea ScotlandIsBest! And no he didn't know about the event)
    - Peace deals and NAP's made in the last couple of turns may be canceled.
    - Separate peaces may be signed with other nations, but between the Pope and The Emperor, they are mostly*** set in stone.
    - The Pope can excommunicate a faction if it refuses to help him.

    If the Emperor loses:**
    - The Emperor is reconciled.
    - The Emperor cannot attack any Italian nations for 10 turns, but he may be freely attacked by them.***
    - The Emperor has to pay a set amount of gold to the Pope. The amount depends on how badly he lost.
    - The rebels in Germany get small reinforcements.

    If the Pope loses:**
    - The Emperor is reconciled and gets immunity to excommunication until the end of the game.
    - The Pope has to pay a set amount of gold to the Emperor. The amount depends on how badly he lost.
    - The Holy Roman Empire takes Bologna.

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    *If the Pope cannot take Rome back in his turn after it got captured.
    ** Some aspects can be negotiated between hre/pope when it happens.
    *** The Emperor can attack back if this happens and the peace becomes null and void.






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    are we awaiting the popes decision or is the admin still musing over his turn? [just to clarify?]

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    A problem arose but I couldn't solve it in time and noone could help me. This will have to wait until thursday sadly, as i'm on a holiday.

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    Too lazy to write RP right now, but save sent to Hannibal2001

    (it is war btw)

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    There were reports from the Caen region that Robert Curthose made his triumphant return to the area by storming caen with a heavy siege of mostly mercenaries in what was surely a last ditch effort to reclaim his "home". Commander David Dunkeld was stuck in his castle for the time being.

    It was midday and the Scots were watching the siege ladders and rams being constructed by Robert's men in the field to the Southwest, if they were to strike soon David's men would have a heavily outnumbered fight on their hands. The men were prepared for a big battle, and some said their prayers for hope.

    It looked like only another day or two before, the proper equipment would be constructed for Robert to assault the castle.

    The next morning came, but it was earlier than usual, there were sounds of horns and screaming from outside the walls.

    Ranald had marched in with a massive army of nobles from Scotland with French mercenaries. They were wreaking havoc on the unsuspecting army of Robert's.

    The initial attack did allot of damage but now they were being pushed back, and David called for his noblemen to aide them!

    The gate opened and out came several hundred claymore wielding Scots, seeking to end Robert once and for all. They charged into the back of the preoccupied spearmen that were fighting Ranald's guards. They were slicing and heaving their massive swords into the crowds of lightly armoured soldiers. Some were torn in two, others badly cut up and bleeding all over the battlefield. The sight was enough to make even a seasoned fighter want to turn tail and run. After a couple hours Robert's men began to flee but Ranald and his men chased them down cutting them down where they stand.

    Robert himself kept fighting knowing his time over, and he would have to face his defeat, he wanted to take as many with him as possible. He sliced a Scotsman across the neck as he was tackled and subdued, held down as David Dunkeld approached.....

    "Robert this is no longer your home, you should have stayed away. Now here we are....." David said while pacing around Robert who was now on his knees....

    "Just get it done boy, you've bested me. Tell my brother I'll see him in hell!" Robert was defiant even in his demise.

    "I'll be sure he gets your head as a gift....." David came down with his claymore , decapitating Robert in the middle of the battlefield."

    He orders his men to clean up the battlefield and burn the bodies, except roberts' who would be sent to his brother in England.

    The Castle of Caen was now in Full Scottish control, and the threat of Robert was no more, the deed to Caen was sent to England for them to reclaim their proper land. The Scots have been instrumental in the fight against Robert and hope the relations between them is stronger now.

    As far as the problem's between the HRE and the Pope, King Etgar has taken a nonmilitary aide approach to help the Pope, He orders some gold be sent to his Holiness. And he sends warning to France that they should not be joining The Holy Roman Empire in their rebellion against the church.

    Genoa up
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/clqipg..._Genova_10.sav

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    "The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"

    -G. Patton

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    Need a cs.

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    Sorry for being terribly late. Sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mergor View Post
    Sorry for being terribly late. Sent.
    It was my fault sorry, forgot to notify you been super busy lately. I'll have it up soon

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    Asking for an extension to do some diplomacy

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    Denmark up - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Tp...51iEwxyx3oluSg
    Pics - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yk...Hvm5MV6qICYrH-

    Did a little bit of RP in-game, but I trust pbob will put it in the thread

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    Somehow missed this one. Unfortunately, it came at a time of flux which is still not over. I need to completely rebuild my medieval 2 junk, along with other things, and that means more delays on my end. It would be prudent to sub me this round and direct any diplomacy to my DM box as compared to ingame messages, unless this somehow lasts a few more days of my fiddling to get things running again.

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