In Memory: Gardener Saddam

[Miraj]

Nurse tells of 'gardener' Saddam
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6222159.stm

In an interview with a US newspaper, Master Sgt Robert Ellis provided a rare glimpse into the last years of Saddam Hussein, who was executed on Saturday.

Sgt Ellis looked after the former Iraqi leader - whom they called 'Victor' - in 2004 and 2005 at a camp near Baghdad.

The prisoner rarely complained during his time in captivity, he said.

He added that he was under strict orders to do whatever neccessary to keep Saddam alive.

"Saddam Hussein cannot die in US custody," he said a US colonel had told him.

'Coping skills'

Sgt Ellis, from St Louis, told the St Louis Post-Dispatch that Saddam Hussein was held in a six foot by eight foot (1.8m to 2.4m) cell with a cot, table, two plastic chairs and two wash basins.

When he was allowed to go outside, Saddam Hussein saved bread scraps from his meals to feed to the birds, Sgt Ellis said.

The former leader also watered a patch of weeds.

"He said he was a farmer when he was young and he never forgot where he came from," Sgt Ellis said.

He said Saddam Hussein never gave him trouble and complained little.

"He had very good coping skills," Sgt Ellis said.

Saddam talked about when he used to read bedtime stories to his young children and recalled giving his daughter medicine for an upset stomach.

His sons Uday and Qusay were killed by US troops in 2003.

The former leader did not talk about dying and had no regrets about his regime, saying what he did was for Iraq.

Sgt Ellis said Saddam Hussein once asked him why the US had invaded when "the laws in Iraq were fair and the weapons inspectors didn't find anything".

Sgt Ellis, 56, checked on Saddam Hussein - or Victor as he was referred to in military code - twice a day.

"I posed no threat. In fact, I was there to help him, and he respected that," Sgt Ellis said.

When the nurse had to leave because his brother was dying, Saddam Hussein hugged him and said he would be his brother.

The former president, 69, was sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November over the killings of 148 Shias from the town of Dujail in the 1980s.

RIP Brother

You were a tyrant, a despot, an invader, an oppressor and of course a killer.

But you were also a lion, a Lion walking among sheep. And you died a Lion. A Lion brought down by ravenous Wolves and killed by heretical Hyenas.

Though you were a monster, you were an angel compared to the dogs that now feed upon the corpse of Iraq.

Rest in eternal sleep now, a much deserved sleep. Best wishes to your daughters and sons.

Best wishes to the ahlus sunnah of Sammara, Tikrit, Baquba, Fallujah and Ramadi.

The war maybe lost but make sure your last stand is something wolves at the gates will remember, or at least their mothers will.

Salam Wa Alaykum!

[LoZz]

sorry but lions do not gas their own people.

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

[Armfelt]

sorry but lions do not gas their own people.

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

Whatever he did in his life, the way he faced his death was honourable and admirable, you can not deny that.

[Erik]

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

You mean Iran?
Or the 60% of Shi'ites and 20% of Kurds in his country?

btw: anyone else find it ironic they call him "Victor".

[Parmenion96]

sorry but lions do not gas their own people.

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

Yeah he was copying usa.

[Posts merged - Spiff]

I love the flaws people have in arguements here

Also There is ALOT of good being done for Iraq despite the poorly laid policy in governing Iraq. Things you dont see on the television like soldier and medicaly units helping Iraqi mothers have their children or helping to rebuild ruined homes . Even the SOLDIERS are helping to fix Iraq as well as humanitarian groups and contractors. Alot of the iraqis who think Saddam was better have only seen the first few years after the overthrow of his regime which (being plagued by so many problems ) are just starting to fix parts of iraq but because of political problems they may end up pulling out and everything (all the hard work) will be ruined

Who asked u to do this? Who asked u to "help" the afghanis, the iraqis, the serbs, the panamezian etc.? Yeah i know they all are evil and u.s. is the shiny samaritan who can't consist to help them. Do u know any country in which u.s. didn't intervene?
Why do u thing everybody needs american way of democracy?
How would u like if u.s. got invated cause of it's leader and let's say quantanamo or of the way free speach is handled in u.s.?

[Holger Danske]

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

So does the United States, and England...

[the_mango55]

So does the United States, and England...

And people don't come in here claiming that Bush and Blair are "Lions" either, and if they do they are quickly shot down in flames.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

RIP Brother

You were a tyrant, a despot, an invader, an oppressor and of course a killer.

But you were also a lion, a Lion walking among sheep. And you died a Lion. A Lion brought down by ravenous Wolves and killed by heretical Hyenas.

Though you were a monster, you were an angel compared to the dogs that now feed upon the corpse of Iraq.

Rest in eternal sleep now, a much deserved sleep. Best wishes to your daughters and sons.

Best wishes to the ahlus sunnah of Sammara, Tikrit, Baquba, Fallujah and Ramadi.

The war maybe lost but make sure your last stand is something wolves at the gates will remember, or at least their mothers will.

Why don't you go to Iraq and ask the Thousands....Millions of Iraqis if they'd rather have Saddam back in power. Ask them if he was Lion, ask them if he was bad but bareable.

[Armfelt]

Why don't you go to Iraq and ask the Thousands....Millions of Iraqis if they'd rather have Saddam back in power. Ask them if he was Lion, ask them if he was bad but bearable.

This thread isn't about how the **** he ruled this thread is about his death and how he died.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

This thread isn't about how the **** he ruled this thread is about his death and how he died.

Hey, You know, had I seen the filter in only one post, I might have ignored you, as you surely deserve, but you have a filter in nearly every post you make.

Oh my, big 16 year old is making a statement by cursing!!! [img]http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/shocked.gif[img]

You know, it makes you looks like you have nothing better to say. "Well, I'd better say something that will get filtered out to show how absolutley cool I am. Surely the boys at TWC will take me seriously then! How could they not? I mean, once I continously cuss on an internet forum that get's filtered they'll see how intellectual I can be, not to mention my raw manly rugged sexual prowess that I surely posses. Oh BOY! I can't wait for my next post, I'll be throwing in the F-bomb, maybe call somone a D-bag, possible an A-hole....I'll be Mr Popular before you can say "Oh **** me in the ass" 3 times. Gee-wiz, I'm on the fast train to people taking me serious now!"

[Carach]

sorry but lions do not gas their own people.

he was a coward he picked on smaller, weaker people and nations.

thats why he attacked iran? (with us backing).

i thought id be pleased justice had been done, but strangely, i don't. Iraq has been one hell of a **** up and a real poke at a beehive.
Saddam may of been a victim of deeper darker american plans/conspiracies/whatever.

Saddam's death has changed nothing, America's last trump card has been lost.

hmm, and im usually so supportive of coalition efforts, thats why i find it wierd that i think this :S

[Erwin Rommel]

Finally, looking forward for Kim Jung Il to follow suit

[wilpuri]

Perhaps Saddam deserved to hang. But then so does Bush.

[Erwin Rommel]

Hmmm what about when Osama when caught, how do we kill him, slowly and exceptionally painful or let him rot or do away with a quick but sadistic way????????

[Last Roman]

Hmmm what about when Osama when caught, how do we kill him, slowly and exceptionally painful or let him rot or do away with a quick but sadistic way????????

Do not let him become a martyr. If we ever capture him, lock him in solitary confinment.

[Gaidin]

Do not let him become a martyr. If we ever capture him, lock him in solitary confinment.

Screw that, if you don't want him to be a martyr quietly put a bullet in his head and say he was on of the servants and Osama got away.

He quietly disappears and there's not a damn thing anybody can use him for.

[Ghoulem]

Do not let him become a martyr. If we ever capture him, lock him in solitary confinment.

I say we put him in a double-cell with Andy Dick.

[Yosemite]

Do not let him become a martyr. If we ever capture him, lock him in solitary confinment.

If you got him, just don't tell anyone, and no one will know it.

[Saladin45]

RIP Brother

You were a tyrant, a despot, an invader, an oppressor and of course a killer.

But you were also a lion, a Lion walking among sheep. And you died a Lion. A Lion brought down by ravenous Wolves and killed by heretical Hyenas.

Though you were a monster, you were an angel compared to the dogs that now feed upon the corpse of Iraq.

Rest in eternal sleep now, a much deserved sleep. Best wishes to your daughters and sons.

Best wishes to the ahlus sunnah of Sammara, Tikrit, Baquba, Fallujah and Ramadi.

The war maybe lost but make sure your last stand is something wolves at the gates will remember, or at least their mothers will.

Salam Wa Alaykum!

Allahu Ackbar!

He died like a lion. That is true. He did not fear death. And he went out saying the Shahada. Truly, a good way to go.

[humvee2800]

I love the flaws people have in arguements here

Saddam is somehow not asbad as bush when Bush doesnt go around gassing Americans or holding a tyrannical regime over America.

Also feasting on Iraq? *smacks head* That would lead opne to assume you mean The U.S is somehow stealing something from iraq and i have a feelings your going to call it oil (which is quite blatantly not true).

Even if one of the reasosn for going to war is to make sure one of the worlds major oil producers stays on Americas side that is a far throw from stealing or even trying to exploit.

Also There is ALOT of good being done for Iraq despite the poorly laid policy in governing Iraq. Things you dont see on the television like soldier and medicaly units helping Iraqi mothers have their children or helping to rebuild ruined homes . Even the SOLDIERS are helping to fix Iraq as well as humanitarian groups and contractors. Alot of the iraqis who think Saddam was better have only seen the first few years after the overthrow of his regime which (being plagued by so many problems ) are just starting to fix parts of iraq but because of political problems they may end up pulling out and everything (all the hard work) will be ruined


And are we supposed to say "oooh poor saddam... those bastard americans... executing him like that" simply because some of his human qaulitys were shown? psychopaths and muderers often have nromal lives outside of there actions just like Hitler or stalin had there redeeming qaulitys , Hitler was known to be quite a kind man to children