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    If you could create your own nation and rule it, what would it be?

    I think mine would be a republic. Atheism would be the official religion, but there would be freedom of religion and crimes against hate. Abortion would be okay. Stem cell research and all that stuff is okay too. Tax the rich, free health care.

    And nukes

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    Mine would be an anti-nation, where there would be no laws, no courts, no judges, no leaders, etc etc. There would be uniform health care that is provided by each individual in the nation and education would be the same.

    And the people within this anti-nation would have the prior understanding of life, existence and goodness thus enabling them to make the right choices, not needing government or police. The people would govern themselves, kind of like Prot's home planet KPAX, where everyone just knew how to live peacefully and didn't need government.

    Of course, this is a fantasy senario that would never work in our world.

    P.S. I think I spelled senario wrong...
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    Doesn't matter what it'd be. I'd get overthrown.
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    an empire, with an emperor, who will have absolute power, powerful military, equal taxes on everone, rich or poor, Abortion is legal, anyone who break a law, even if its just stealing will be execute, everyone must go to college, thats it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus View Post
    If you could create your own nation and rule it, what would it be?

    I think mine would be a republic. Atheism would be the official religion, but there would be freedom of religion and crimes against hate. Abortion would be okay. Stem cell research and all that stuff is okay too. Tax the rich, free health care.

    And nukes
    Atheism is a religion now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livia View Post
    Atheism is a religion now?
    Gotta be able to tax the religious out of their holes somehow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livia View Post
    Atheism is a religion now?
    Well since you're so picky, then my official religion would be "none"

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    Mine would just be a Kingdom with the king of course myself. My word is law. However, I will of course have the most able men in my Cabinet of Ministers, or at least try to get those types of men or women. My military will be based on the old Janissary system in which children are raised from childhood with the sole purpose of being my soldiers, in return I will treat them or at least those loyal to me with great benevolence. The new religion will be a monotheistic one with me as the God since I will somehow ascend to godhood between now and then. I will be a God Emperor ala Warhammer 40K

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    Government : Libertarian Socialist. No head of state. You vote for your local member of parliament, who in turn represent you in Parliament. Quite the same as we have things in the UK now, but there is not PM. Ministerial positions are assigned based on elections, with regular reviews by parliament to make sure a good job is being done.

    Religion : Non Specified, all allowed within the guidelines of the law.

    Health Care : Free for all.

    Education : Free for all, including university education.

    Military : I'd model it on Switzerland's, but I'd have a more regular armed force too for peace keeping operations as and when needed by the UN. No nuclear arsenal.

    Science : No restrictions, animal testing only for healthcare research. Absolute zero tolerance for make up, food etc testing.

    Judicial System : No death penalty. Progressive rehabilitation, but tough initial punishment. So prison time, harsh community service; i.e. not litter picking, but hard ass labour. After which time, rehabilitation is given to reintergrate them into society. This makes them pay their debts to society, then allow them to try to become a useful member of society after.

    Unemployment : Keynes' theory applied, and the unemployed are given state jobs. I'd remove the rediculous law that prevents you from working with no fixed home address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalins Ghost View Post
    Government : Libertarian Socialist. No head of state. You vote for your local member of parliament, who in turn represent you in Parliament. Quite the same as we have things in the UK now, but there is not PM. Ministerial positions are assigned based on elections, with regular reviews by parliament to make sure a good job is being done.
    Who would run the country and make the decisions?

    This seems like a ridiculously inefficient way to run a country.

    There needs to be (and probably will be) someone in charge, even if they aren't the "head of state" in title.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalins Ghost View Post
    Health Care : Free for all.

    Education : Free for all, including university education.

    Military : I'd model it on Switzerland's, but I'd have a more regular armed force too for peace keeping operations as and when needed by the UN. No nuclear arsenal.

    Unemployment : Keynes' theory applied, and the unemployed are given state jobs. I'd remove the rediculous law that prevents you from working with no fixed home address.
    Where would you get all that money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalins Ghost View Post
    Science : No restrictions, animal testing only for healthcare research. Absolute zero tolerance for make up, food etc testing.
    This seems funny to me.

    No restrictions on science! Test on fetuses, test on convicts, test on babies!

    BUT NOT ON ANIMALS!!!
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    It would be a Muslim Nation and the rest 15 % Christian faith.

    Im talking now about my State of Nation.

    A state with around 5 million of population.. an strong army with around 120.000 troops heavy and greatest technology military power.

    Democratic place. with an Voted Election Parliament.

    maybe im off thread because im talking about a Country not a nation.

    WHATEVER lol.

    whatelse :hmmm:.

    A Self strong place no need to get in the EU-Union

    A Patriotic NATION if someone would attack my state everybody would take ARMS and fight the foez.. hhahahahah

    i messed everythang up

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    It would be a dictatorship with me as its leader. Everyone would be forced to worship me in temples, and worshipping other gods would not be tolerated.

    There would be strict laws regarding murder, theft, etc. in order to uphold law & order. Killing cats & dogs would be especially strictly forbidden, and death would be the punishment of such an act. These laws would only apply to the majority of the people, and I and my close ones would be free to do whatever we wished.

    Taxation on rich people except those I care for would be high. There would also be lots of research going on - especially within stemcells and cloning - and humans would be used as test subjects.

    And as a way to handle executions, there would be gladiatorial games, which only would be available for the rich, as it would cost a large sum to watch, as I wouldn't want it to be too crowded when watching a good fight.
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    Hmm... my own nation? An island, large bank accounts and gold deposits as insurance, small but vibrant population, harbor, international airport and plenty of good real estate. Minimal responsibility, cause I probably don't deserve it.

    We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
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    An Empire, with me as Emperor.

    Government: A Constitutional Federative Social-Monarchy. With an Emperor as head-of-state and a Chancellor as head-of-government. The Chancellor would *officially* be appointed by the Emperor on the advice of Parliament, but would be *practically* elected by Parliament.
    The Imperial Office would be elective, but available only to those within the Imperial Family, connected either by marriage, blood, or adoption. A Crown Prince can be elected while an Emperor still reigns, and will ascend immediately to the throne.
    The legislative branch would consist of a tricameral parliament. The lower house would be elected by a popular vote on the provincial basis and the upper house would consist of the nobility. The third house, called the House of Electors, would consist of the 10 highest nobles in the land and 10 popularly-elected officials, and it would function as the body which elects the Emperor, and function as the Emperor's privy council. The Emperor would be responsible to the people, and be the head of the military. The Emperor would, on the advice of the Chancellor and the approval of the House of Electors, appoint the ministers.
    The Empire would be administered as a federalized system, with each province electing their own regional governments and having the right to govern themselves and make their own laws, provided that those laws do not conflict with laws enacted by the Imperial Government. Every province would, obviously, have a good degree of autonomy and self-management.

    Religion: None. Total separation of church and state. There will be, of course, total freedom of religion. However, an atheistic point-of-view will be the norm.

    Liberty: Basic civil rights open to citizens and cannot be relinquished. This includes free speech, free press, ownership of property, freedom of assembly, and the right to keep and bear arms. Abortion will be legal. Marriage will be a state-mandated ceremony open to all, regardless of gender or orientation. The religious ceremony is optional. Adoption will be done on an individual basis.

    Science: Regulated somewhat, but otherwise allowed to flourish. Evolution will be taught as fact within schools. A career in science will be seen as a noble undertaking. However, I'll put my foot down upon animal and human testing that harms the animal or human in question to an extreme extent.
    Additionally, fund stem cell research and testing and increase efforts in the fields of cloning, genetics, and biotechnology.

    Health Care: Free and available to all.

    Judiciary: Emperor is the highest judge in the land, and he can grant pardons. Provincial governors can grant pardons in their provinces. Crimes will be punished with imprisonment, fines, and hard labor. Higher crimes, such as murder and rape, will be grounds for deprivation of citizenship, and can be met with execution. Provincial judges will be elected by that province's citizens, and the Supreme Court Justices will be elected in a popular vote.

    Education: Free and available to all. All pre-college schools will be under state administration; home-schooling and pre-college private schools would be illegal. Universities under state administration would be free and available to all citizens with the right grades. Private universities and colleges will be allowed, but the owners will have to pay a special tax to be allowed to run it. I'd rather all children be educated under the state curriculum in state-run schools.

    Military: A permanent, professional armed force to be maintained for quick-reaction to threats of national security. Compulsory service for those aged 20 years and older, with the exception of conscientious objectors. However, one can volunteer for service as young as age 16, and will be eligible for draft at age 18 , if a situation is dire enough to enact conscription.
    Definitely concentrate on a strong navy, up-to-date equipment, a good aerial combat arm; I'd maintain a decent stock of nuclear munitions, just in case.

    Taxes: Income tax balanced to lighten the load on the poor but put more on the shoulders of the rich and wealthy. Not to the extent that it's a total welfare state and that the rich completely support the rest of society, but at least to a point of balance so that there's not so much poverty.

    Economy: In general, a mixed economy that can be guided in times of crisis or war. Provide welfare for the poor, etc. Maintain a state-controlled Central Labor Union.

    Environment: Environmental protection; increase efforts to lower the rate of global warming and help aid the protection of endangered species. Also increase efforts to successfully clone endangered species so as to prevent their extinction.

    Other: Legalize gambling, prostitution, and marijuana; they will be regulated and taxed accordingly. Copyrights will be co-owned by the state and whoever patented it. Political parties will be under certain forms regulation in order to prevent extremists coming to power.
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    Something like southpark, but in the size of a country. :tooth:

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    Mine will be much like the Galactic Empire from Star Wars w/ me as the Emperor and the senate merely a democratic farce. I will rule over the whole galaxy eradicating the Jedi Scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Democratic state

    Government: Led by a high council of 10, who in turn are voted in by a parliment of 100, who are voted in by the people. No parties, people run indivdual campaigns in their county. Each elected man from each county (country split into 100 counties, the higher density of poulation has a smaller sized county, roughly equal each population) has the one who came second in the election to run the county, whilst the first sits in parliment. Laws require a simple majority in parliment followed by a longer session on the council in which a 90% majority is needed. Those on the council may not be elected to ministral ranks, and together have the last word on country policies.

    Religion: None, atheist official goverment stance. Places of worship will be transferred to more practical uses, no place allowed to be set aside for religious worship or gathering.

    Liberty: Human right allowed to all citizens who do not break the law, once the law is broken, they loose the right to those human rights which they broke in breaking the law, and no longer will those who carry out the same crime against them be panalised (ie, should a man murder, he would face the death sentance, and any man who should kill him after he has been proven guilty will not be penalised.) No freedom of the press, as freedom of privacy overrules this, press can do whatever they wish inside the bounds of this right.

    Science: No restriction as long as they do not breach human or animal rights, including not murdering or torturing. Beyond this there is no restriction.

    Health Care: Free and available to all.

    Judiciary: The second in a county election is the judge, a man is innocent until proven guilty, but may be kept imprisoned for as long as it takes to prove his guilt. Should he face trial and be proven entirly innocent, he will recieve compensation for his time.

    Education: State schools for those unable to afford private, and then in the fourth year the possibilty of entering Grammar school if within the top 10% of students, the 10-20% range go to higher school, the 20-100 remain in school. Average grades at GCSE required to go on to sixth form and A leves. No bachaloriate option.

    Military: Permanent, proffessional army, able to volenteer from the age of 18 upwards, but must then remain in the forces for a minimum of seven years unless faced with a disability preventing continuation of service. The army would be small but heavily equiped, with money going into enhanced weaponry for all. The navy would be near non-existent, consisting solely of 2 aircraft carriers and 4 escorts. All other duties will be by county-paid ships. The airforce will be transport-aimed, with fighters to defend the transports, few bombers. No nuclear arnaments.

    Taxes: 20% taxes on all income and imports, but varying from 18% for the very poor to 25% for the very rich.

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    My country would be called the Dark Empire. It would be the size of Liechtenstein, but it would have a huge 20ft steel wall around the entire border to keep everyone in. All 'citizens' would be reclassified as slaves or serfs as property of the executive authority - which would be me, as Dark Emperor-for-Life, and a small ministry of corrupt and perverted officials answering directly to me, all charged with abusing the populace as much as possible. Police functions would be carried out by the army, which would be raised from foreign mercenaries to bully and oppress the people, with a no-fraternisation rule strictly enforced to keep them keen and unsympathetic. And all women and girls over the age of majority would be liable to a sex-tax for a certain number of sexual acts a year payable to (or waivable by, if they're ugly) the Emperor (myself), my ministers, or army-officers. Penalty for any failure to pay the tax, or to meet the commands of the authorities in other ways, would be death, summarily dispensed by the troops.
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    It would be a bigger Sweden (or a northern Union). The territory would look like this: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Eu...ntries_map.png

    The official religion would be christendom although everyone would be allowed to choose whatever religion they want or none at all. The different parts (today's different countries) should be allowed to be quite independent. Politically it should be a little more right than Sweden today.

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    If i owed a nation i would probably be classed as a blood trursty tyrant religion probably christianity and anyone who rebeled would be executed in public

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